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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 4:03 PM
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 4:09 PM
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We do have Ski-to-LRT Nordic ski parking, which make a whole lot more sense.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 4:31 PM
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Just read on BBC that Edmonton is adding a 7-km freeze way through the city for commuters to skate to work during the winter months. That's cool.
I love that.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 6:35 PM
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Saskatoon just announced today the intention to build dedicated bus lanes downtown and by the university as well as the first four BRT stations.


Edit: Within five years.

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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 6:43 PM
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The city of Saskatoon is going to buy the local university in conjunction with building bus lanes?
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 6:47 PM
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Saskatoon just announced today the intention to build dedicated bus lanes downtown and buy the university as well as the first four BRT stations.


Edit: Within five years.
I think this is what he was trying to say.

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Saskatoon just announced today the intention to build dedicated bus lanes downtown and by the university as well as the first four BRT stations.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 6:58 PM
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Haha, yes I'm sure it was. That doesn't stop me from tormenting him a little though.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2015, 12:08 AM
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Just read on BBC that Edmonton is adding a 7-km freeze way through the city for commuters to skate to work during the winter months. That's cool.
Add two kilometers and it would be the world's longest skating rink (beating Winnipeg's 8.54 km around "the forks" and Ottawa's 7.8 km Rideau Canal).
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2015, 3:32 AM
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The 2nd phase of the freezeway would add about 2.5 kilometers, completing a ring around the northern part of Edmonton's inner city, from downtown to the old airport lands.
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That is really cool. I think it's about time that Canadian cities really started to embrace their winters as opposed to just viewing them as hibernation till the spring thaw.
     
     
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Only a few cities are cold enough for long enough for it to be of use though. Cities like Windsor, Toronto, Halifax, Calgary, and St. John's while all cold cities, always have unpredictable extended periods of relative warmth through the winter. I think the cities that have predictable enough winters for these things to be possible, such as Quebec City, Ottawa, Winnipeg, and Edmonton, already do quite well at capitalizing on winter, and I believe all of them have plans to further capitalize on the cold months


With that said, the Red Bull Crashed Ice track in Edmonton is well under construction!



http://www.edmontonsun.com/2015/02/23/ed...make-local-crashed-ice-rout-the-craziest
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Only a few cities are cold enough for long enough for it to be of use though. Cities like Windsor, Toronto, Halifax, Calgary, and St. John's while all cold cities, always have unpredictable extended periods of relative warmth through the winter. I think the cities that have predictable enough winters for these things to be possible, such as Quebec City, Ottawa, Winnipeg, and Edmonton, already do quite well at capitalizing on winter, and I believe all of them have plans to further capitalize on the cold months
Even Ottawa still typically gets 0-ish or higher periods scattered throughout the winter leading to thaws once or twice a month. This year, we've had 7 weeks of straight skating season, which is a 40-year record.
     
     
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Even Ottawa still typically gets 0-ish or higher periods scattered throughout the winter leading to thaws once or twice a month. This year, we've had 7 weeks of straight skating season, which is a 40-year record.
And Montreal even more so. It's colder and snowier than Toronto for sure but totally snow-free periods on downtown streets in Montreal are not unheard of there from time to time in a normal winter.
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Agreed. Its unfortunate that Toronto built such bland stations compared to Montreal. I guess its because we built most of our network earlier, but even then the only "nice stations" in the system are those on the Spadina line.. We don't have a good habit of building grand stations.

I don't think Eglinton's stations are going to be particularly nice either, its unfortunate.
A lot of it is cultural. Montreal has historically been Canada's biggest city, its cultural capital, and the home of the nation's elite and old money. It's predictably been a place where style and beauty is valued.

Toronto has historically been a blue collar industrial city where the culture has been extremely pragmatic out of necessity. People value function to the exclusion of almost everything else. As Toronto usurped Montreal, the city has become increasingly more sophisticated but a culture is hard to change. Toronto still sees beauty as a frivolous luxury and calls to make thing 'nice' are met with hostility. You still see many mock it as a waste of money rather than an investment in our city. That's a blue collar mentality through and through.

In places like Rome, Sydney, Boston, Madrid, etc. there is rarely any backlash to spending money on design; the populace demand it. These are cities that have been at the top of the heap for a very long time. Bare bones doesn't cut it. They expect the best and complain when they don't get it. Toronto only rose to prominence over the last 20-30 years. It will take generations before we also demand the same standard.
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2015, 5:34 PM
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Provincial governments have had more input on the budget and design of transit capital projects than the cities they reside in. You keep spouting the same rhetoric. It's far from true though.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2015, 6:12 PM
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Saskatoon just got GPS tracking on its buses today. Anyone have any experience with similar systems? Has it improved transit in other Canadian communities?
     
     
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Saskatoon just got GPS tracking on its buses today. Anyone have any experience with similar systems? Has it improved transit in other Canadian communities?
Depends. Is it publically available GPS data that allows transit apps to track buses in real time? In other words, can you use your phone to tell when a bus is coming in real time? If so, yes, it makes a massive difference to making transit more convenient.

Even if its not publically available, it will help the operator plan routes more efficiently. In Kingston we don't have publically available GPS for some reason, but the buses do have GPS tracking that the city can see, and the city has made numerous travel time and schedule adjustments to improve reliability based on the GPS data.
     
     
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Thank god Ottawa has the GPS system right now. If not for that, I would've been stuck outside in the freezing cold for long periods of time. Buses are often late or just don't show up. As a matter of fact, I feel like the GPS system may have caused OC transpo drivers to be even more careless than before for being punctual.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 26, 2015, 11:37 PM
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Fredericton has GPS tracking. A 3rd party made an app that would track the buses for you and it was great.

Sadly, 2 or 3 years ago, something changed; either the group stopped updating the App or Freddy Transit stopped providing the data access, and the app is rotting ever since. (no word or anything, just doesn't finish loading the maps). Very disappointing.
     
     
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I heard rumours TBay has GPS, but considering the numbers the electronic readouts provide I have my doubts.
     
     
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