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Originally Posted by Crawford
For question #2, I would think Italy receives tons of immigrants for the same reason the Southwest U.S. receives tons of immigrants- location.
Most immigrants to Europe are coming via North Africa and the Middle East. Italy is basically the easiest "rich" country to reach for many, especially because some Italian islands are extremely close to Africa.
And Italy's economy, while not exactly robust, is not that bad. They are still one of the richest major countries on earth, and have excellent social benefits.
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Italy´s economy is two years in continous recession and it´s declining since 2008 only showing a moderate growth in 2010 after declining 5.5% in 2009. France is having trouble creating employmen by growing less than 1% I don´t think that Italy is able to take so much immigration without causing a big social turmoil. Besides if Italy´s receiving african immigration they could only be refugees, Germany and even Sweden are accepting far more refugees, i think In the US, immigrants don´t stay in New Mexico, Arizona or poor áreas, they go to booming centers around Miami, Los Angeles or New York. There must be another explanation, maybe Italy has a different immigration counting method than France Germany or UK?
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Originally Posted by New Brisavoine
Metropolitan France is the part of France that is in Europe.
The French Republic is the entire territory under French sovereignty. In other words all the territories where you'll have to cross a French border check to enter, and where the local inhabitants are French citizens and carry a French passport. So that's Metropolitan France + all the overseas departements and territories.
What I've termed "France" here is a different notion. It's larger than Metropolitan France but smaller than the French Republic. It's the part of the French Republic that fully applies the laws passed at the national level and does not enjoy any specific degree of autonomy. It's also the part of the French Republic that belongs to the EU. It is made up of Metropolitan France + the 5 overseas departments.
When you see figures about "France" at an international level (like IMF, World Bank, EU), they refer to Metropolitan France + the 5 overseas departments (although Mayotte is not yet integrated in the data due to its recent accession to overseas department status and lack of statistical time series).
As for the birth figures quoted here, that 811,510 figure in the Wikipedia article refers to Metropolitan + the 4 old overseas departments (without Mayotte), whereas my 818,000 figure refers to Metropolitan France + the 5 overseas departments (including Mayotte).
PS: There are no overseas "colonies" anymore. Colonies were legally disbanded in 1946, and replaced either with overseas departments or overseas territories. All French territories have enjoyed full political representation and full French citizenship since 1958 at the latest.
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Lol, it might be that for an argentinian, like me, it´s difficult to consider a far away territory part of the same country, besides, I don´t think that representation prevented france from blowing up mururoa with nuclear tests in the 90´s or from ignoring local languages.
by the way... is there a more updated figure for that 818,000 number??, it seems too rounded, or maybe it´s a final?
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