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Old Posted Feb 10, 2015, 10:46 PM
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500+ Ottawa residents sign petition to move WLRT route

Joanne Chianello, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: February 9, 2015, Last Updated: February 9, 2015 11:13 AM EST


While city of Ottawa and National Capital Commission officials continue to work towards some sort of compromise acceptable to both parties with regards to the western LRT extension route — we’re supposed to get some sort of news next month after the “100-day truce” proposed by Mayor Jim Watson and MP John Baird — a group of Ottawa residents have signed a petition in favour of the train running under Rochester Field.

City officials are still working on more detailed estimates of how much it would cost to run the train under the NCC-controlled field, but preliminary estimates released in 2013 showed that the under-Rochester Field option would cost hundreds of millions more than the current estimate of $980 million.

Here’s the letter sent by resident Doug Cousins to various Ottawa officials:

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Mayor Jim Watson City of Ottawa 110 Laurier Ave.
Councillor Jeff Leiper City of Ottawa 110 Laurier Ave.
Dr. Mark Kristmanson National Capital Commisson 202 – 40 Elgin Street

February 6th, 2015

Dear Gentlemen

Attached to this short letter, is a 22 page Petition (original to Mayor Jim Watson and copies to Jeff Leiper and Dr. Mark Kristmanson) signed by 573 Ottawa residents who believe that the currently proposed Western LRT route requires reexamination.

This request is based upon several factors:

The availability of Rochester Field offers an alternative to the Macdonald Parkway route – that is far less destructive to Ottawa’s urban greenspace.
A buried route under the Byron Linear Park offers greater accessibility to west end residents, with significantly better connections to current and proposed bus routes.
A buried route under the Byron Linear Park will incur dramatically lower construction and long term maintenance costs (one less station, no threat of water infiltration, no issues with reclaimed sandy soil).



I believe that all of you have seen the work of Chuck Davies who has done an in depth study of both these routes. If not, I would be happy to send you the electronic version.

I along with all of those who made the effort to sign this Petition, believe it is incumbent upon the City to take a second, serious look at the very real benefits of an alternative route.

Yours truly,

Douglas Cousins

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/0209-petition
I don't think they realize that the Byron Strip option would be done cut-and-cover. Seems to me that both options, the strip or burying the John A. MacDonald Parkway (cheaper option as no existing infrastructure would have to be moved/disturbed), would preserve just as much green space. Don't know how they figure that one less station is required with the Strip option.

In any case, it has to be underground IMO.

As for the Scotiabank Building, glad to see it gone. Hope the next one is as tall as the 90 George knock-off Caplan's podium to hide the blank wall.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 12, 2015, 5:40 PM
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Construction Update
Week of February 9




Albert Street lane reductions

Albert Street Civic Works


Lane and MUP reductions continue on Albert Street. This week temporary signals were installed and excavating began at Booth Street north of Albert for the construction of the LeBreton Flats Diversion Chamber and other associated underground utilities. Cyclist Detour Map: www.ottawa.ca/confederationline.


L-wall bracing in Lyon Station cavern

Lyon Station Cavern


Lyon Station cavern reinforcement and construction continues with L-wall formwork and pouring of slabs within the cavern drifts. Rebar and concrete work on elevator and escalator pits continue.


Parliament Station cavern excavation

Parliament Station Cavern


Work is ongoing seven days a week in Parliament Station cavern. Support, such as rebar and wire mesh, is being installed as Chewrocka continues to excavate east in upper drifts over the next few months.


Looking east from Rideau Station cavern

Rideau Station Cavern


Crocodile Rouge continues to excavate the station cavern top heading and tunnel reinforcement is ongoing with shotcrete, wire mesh and bolt installation. Installation of cavern support umbrella will begin. Jawbreaker is excavating the running tunnel bench.


Removal of Scotiabank building demolition debris

Rideau East Entrance

Exterior demolition of the existing Scotiabank building continues at the future location of the Rideau Station entrance (east).


Panel installation on the Administration and Maintenance building

Belfast Yard Administration and Maintenance Building/Vehicle Storage Shed


Cladding, panel installation and glazing advances on the Administration and Maintenance building. Construction of the internal components, such as the pouring of slabs in the light maintenance area as well as plumbing and electrical works are ongoing. Roofing on the shed continues.


Curing of concrete walls at the Belfast Yard connector

Belfast Yard Connector


Works on the connector, which allows vehicles to travel to and from the LRT track to Belfast Yard, are ongoing with excavation and piling north of the VIA tracks. Pouring of concrete walls continues.


Concrete caissons north of the existing Hurdman Station

Hurdman Station Area


Caisson drilling north of the existing Hurdman Station, part of the elevated guideway work, has been completed.


Highway 417 median construction area

Highway 417 Roadworks


Electrical and light pole foundations, and trenching are ongoing in the median lane from Cyrville Road to Nicholas Street exit.


Forming the Hurdman Bridge deck

Hurdman Bridge (Hwy 417 over Rideau River)


Forming of the deck, part of the reconstruction of the bridge’s median span, continues through the winter.


Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge

Coventry Pedestrian Footbridge


The footbridge is now open to cyclists and pedestrians.


Belfast Bridge closure

Belfast Road Overpass


Work is scheduled to resume in early spring on the bridge as the long-term closure of Belfast Road continues north of Tremblay Road to Coventry Road.


In the coming weeks, the following construction activities will occur:

• Lyon Station east entrance excavation is anticipated to begin late winter.
• Parliament Station utilities relocation work is scheduled to occur this winter.

Additional construction activities scheduled for spring include:

• Blair Station new bus loop construction is scheduled to begin early spring.
• Paving and final intersection reconfiguration works at Lemieux Street and St. Laurent Boulevard will resume in spring.
• Final works will resume in spring at Lees Avenue overpass, Vanier Parkway overpass and Belfast Bridge.
• Trackwork is scheduled to begin in the Belfast Yard Administrative and Maintenance building in spring.
• St. Laurent Boulevard temporary ramp construction will begin in spring.
• Utility work for the new St-Laurent LRT station will begin in spring.

http://www.confederationline.ca/
     
     
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Why does that link not work for me on any computer, using any browser, ever?
     
     
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Why does that link not work for me on any computer, using any browser, ever?
Works ok for me...?!?!
     
     
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Why does that link not work for me on any computer, using any browser, ever?
Probably location... it works for me and I have very restrictive admins.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2015, 12:45 AM
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Rideau Station rendering with final rolling stock.


http://ottawa.ca/en/ott-city-online/welcoming-future-transit-city-ottawa
     
     
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Probably location... it works for me and I have very restrictive admins.
Doesn't work at home, doesn't work at work, doesn't work at a public computer I tried; hasn't worked for me, anywhere, on any machine, using any browser, in months.

Edit to add: it's working at home now, so the problem would seem to be on their end, not mine.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2015, 4:05 AM
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I've never had a problem with the site and I've been visiting it for quite some time now. Works fine in Firefox.
     
     
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Rideau Station rendering with final rolling stock.


http://ottawa.ca/en/ott-city-online/welcoming-future-transit-city-ottawa
Looks good, still disappointing not having a centre platform, honestly I dont think it would have been much of a difference in price? But should be nice when its done.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2015, 5:15 PM
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Centre platform and a design that would have been more open to the concourse level. This is too basic IMO.
     
     
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having two side platforms is better for capacity purposes.
     
     
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Old Posted Feb 15, 2015, 5:31 PM
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having two side platforms is better for capacity purposes.
How's that? And aren't those a little narrow for downtown stations?
     
     
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It looks quite similar to Union Station in Toronto in my opinion.
     
     
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I like centre platforms for the simple reason that you get twice as many escalators and elevators for the same price, making the stations way more accessible and resilient to breakdowns.
     
     
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I've never had a problem with the site and I've been visiting it for quite some time now. Works fine in Firefox.
Until I tried again yesterday, it wouldn't work for me, at home, work, or a third location, in Exploder, Firefox, or Chrome, and hadn't for about six months.
     
     
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Centre platforms have accessibility issues: it's much, much, much harder for the visually impaired to use them safely. In Toronto accessibility groups have been complaining about the use of centre platform design on the U/C Eglinton line.
     
     
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For low floor lrt, it seems centre platforms limit the possibility of an open feel in the station, as demonstrated barrier between the two tracks.

A good thing with centre platforms is that you can try and figure out which side you'll be taking the train once your on the platform and read the ticker on the train once it arrives. With a side platform, you need to figure it out at concourse level. If you go down to the platform and figure it out then, you'll have to go back up and switch stairs. This is more of a problem with underground stations than above ground where you have visual cues. Though you do have some people with terrible sense of direction.

With proper way-finding, you could minimize the issue, but I have to say that I personally got screwed over a few times at St-Laurent.
     
     
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For low floor lrt, it seems centre platforms limit the possibility of an open feel in the station, as demonstrated barrier between the two tracks.

A good thing with centre platforms is that you can try and figure out which side you'll be taking the train once your on the platform and read the ticker on the train once it arrives. With a side platform, you need to figure it out at concourse level. If you go down to the platform and figure it out then, you'll have to go back up and switch stairs. This is more of a problem with underground stations than above ground where you have visual cues. Though you do have some people with terrible sense of direction.

With proper way-finding, you could minimize the issue, but I have to say that I personally got screwed over a few times at St-Laurent.
With proper signage and visible maps, that really shouldn't be a problem. Maybe there will even be staff there to direct people.
     
     
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Rideau Station rendering with final rolling stock.


http://ottawa.ca/en/ott-city-online/welcoming-future-transit-city-ottawa
The weird thing is that that doesn't actually match the mockup of the car and the very recent renderings of it's deign, since the mockup doesn't have headlights behind a cover. The mockup also lacks a centre light at the top, which might just have been a simplification.
     
     
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I found this video of one of Madrid metro lines using the same trains as Ottawa will be getting.

• Video Link


EDIT: i don't know why the link doesn't work when using the Youtube fonction. Here's the link:

http://youtu.be/agHhVKP1F6c
     
     
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