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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 12:41 AM
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Government expected to sell Heron Road training centre

Robert Bostelaar, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 29, 2015, Last Updated: January 29, 2015 7:26 PM EST



Meeting hall at Federal Study Centre site was originally a Catholic chapel.

The federal government is reportedly preparing to sell off another prime Ottawa property — this one an east-side education campus that has been heralded for its modernist architecture.

Heritage Ottawa, a volunteer group, says the federal Public Works and Government Services landlord is preparing to transfer the 12-building Federal Study Centre at 1495 Heron Rd. to the government’s real estate arm for disposal.

The centre, originally built as a religious complex, is listed on the Canadian Register of Historic Places and designated as “recognized” by the Federal Heritage Buildings Review Office for the clean lines of its brick structures and pleasing scale of its walkways and courtyards.

Whether a potential buyer would wish to preserve the buildings on a seven-hectare site that could have more value for a housing development is uncertain, however. Heritage Ottawa is vowing to “advocate for the preservation and adaptive reuse of the complex.”

The group said in a website post that Public Works “assures us” it is working with the City of Ottawa, which would have veto power over any development proposal. The city could also seek a municipal heritage designation for the campus, the group noted.

However, while such status can delay changes to a property, it cannot prevent them. Nor do the federal designations offer protection. The 1967 Sir John Carling Building, though recognized by the Federal Heritage Office since 2004, was demolished last year to avoid repair bills.

Late Thursday, Public Works said it is “assessing options” for the centre.



Sarah Gelbard, a researcher and writer on architecture and urban topics, counts the Heron Road campus among her favourite Ottawa sites. She hopes it can be preserved, “but seeing what’s happening in Ottawa right now with modernist architecture, I’m doubtful that someone’s going to take it over and recognize the heritage value and maintain it in that light.”

Gelbard, a Carleton University architecture graduate now working on her PhD in urban planning at McGill University in Montreal, points to the loss of the Carling Building, the replacement of the former Ottawa Congress Centre, and the planned reskinning of the National Arts Centre — the latter two examples of the brutalism movement in architecture — as examples of a continued disregard for modernism.

Unlike the crumbling Carling building, the study centre has been well maintained, with few alterations that would detract from its original design, Gelbard said.

“It’s actually still in really great condition, relative to its original. It’s kind of a time capsule … you look at the old photos from the 1960s and it kind of feels like you’re still there.”

The complex was an early commission of Ottawa architect Tim Murray, who was approached by the Sisters of the Congregation of Notre Dame and designed two schools, a convent and other structures, all placed around the anchor of a square-edged, copper-roofed chapel.

While a portion of the complex remains in use as a Catholic intermediate school, the rest was sold in 1973 to the federal government.

The property is in the Alta Vista ward of newly elected Ottawa Coun. Jean Cloutier. The councillor’s office said Thursday that Cloutier was unavailable for comment.

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Federal Study Centre (Campanile Complex)
1495 Heron Rd.

Property: 7.3 hectares

Number of buildings: 12

Built: 1963-1965

Architect: Tim Murray, Murray and Murray Associates

Original owner: Sisters of Congregation of Notre Dame

Original use: Boys’ high school, girls’ high school, convent, novitiate

Subsequent owner: Government of Canada (1973)

Subsequent uses: Language and other training

Floor area: 14,800 square metres (159,306 square feet)

Yearly payment to city in lieu of taxes: $327,895.29 (2013)

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/government-expected-to-sell-heron-road-training-centre
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 1:26 AM
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Wow! I was there for a month in 1987, and then again for two weeks in 1995.

I remember it being difficult to get to by transit but otherwise reminiscent of the schools I attended from 1969 to 1986.

I suspect they'll dump it and run. Followed closely by the nav canada school and the customs school.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 3:25 PM
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I never realized how expansive this place is
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 3:34 PM
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Everything the government does is expansive.... and expensive
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 3:54 PM
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Kind of reminds me of a Mayan temple complex. What kind of sacrifices courses were performed there?

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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 4:15 PM
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I wonder if any of the colleges or universities would be interested in refurbishing it.
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Old Posted Jan 30, 2015, 4:18 PM
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Everything the government does is expansive.... and expensive
Part of that complex is actually a school (St Patrick intermediate). I think that's the part with the fresh pavement on the west side. I'm assuming that part is not part of the sale as it is still in use.
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I never realized how expansive this place is
This is a great image.

I really hope they don't demolish anything here, as it really is a great modernist collection. I was planning on waiting until spring to visit and photograph it, but maybe I should consider going sooner just in case.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2015, 3:35 AM
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Some big names join the Ottawa Centre EcoDistrict

David Reevely, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 30, 2015, Last Updated: January 30, 2015 5:05 PM EST


Downtown landlords Minto, Morguard and Manulife have signed up to support the Ottawa Centre EcoDistrict, an organization aimed at pooling knowledge and resources to make downtown more ecologically friendly.

I wrote about the non-profit group last spring (in a piece that’s sadly expired from the Citizen website), when it got three years of funding from the Ontario Trillium Foundation. The idea is that if landowners work together, they can make downtown a lot greener and more pleasant, and save money along the way.

The EcoDistrict people might, for instance, pull together information on how best to integrate bike parking into car garage, supplement that material with lessons learned here specifically in Ottawa (here’s how many people you can expect to bike in summer, how many in winter, here are some things you can do to get the numbers up), and help property owners standardize the signs and methods of access (so that one keycard gets a cyclist access to a bunch of bike cages in the neighbourhood). As a hypothetical example.

Getting property owners signed up to take active part is a pretty big step. Besides the big three private landlords, the new “champions” the EcoDistrict people announced include Hydro Ottawa, Invest Ottawa, Windmill Development Group, Welch LLP, the Canada Council for the Arts, the Cement Association of Canada, HUB Ottawa, the National Arts Centre and Ottawa Tourism.

Plus they’ve added a bunch of “ambassadors,” mainly planning and engineering firms that have agreed to share expertise, and “partners” that can supply environmentally friendly products to the participants.

They made the announcement in Canada Council meeting space in Morguard’s new building at 150 Elgin St., the office tower just south of Laurier that Shopify has moved into. Coun. David Chernushenko said the EcoDistrict work dovetails very neatly with the city’s investment in the new light-rail system and the Laurier bike lanes, which are part of a slow but significant remaking of downtown to be a much people-friendlier place, less given over to concrete and asphalt.

“Ottawa is far from perfect but doing many things well,” Chernushenko said.

The various groups are to start meeting in early March.

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http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news...names-join-the-ottawa-centre-ecodistrict
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Government expected to sell Heron Road training centre

Robert Bostelaar, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: January 29, 2015, Last Updated: January 29, 2015 7:26 PM EST



Meeting hall at Federal Study Centre site was originally a Catholic chapel.

The federal government is reportedly preparing to sell off another prime Ottawa property — this one an east-side education campus that has been heralded for its modernist architecture.

Heritage Ottawa, a volunteer group, says the federal Public Works and Government Services landlord is preparing to transfer the 12-building Federal Study Centre at 1495 Heron Rd. to the government’s real estate arm for disposal.

The centre, originally built as a religious complex, is listed on the Canadian Register of Historic Places and designated as “recognized” by the Federal Heritage Buildings Review Office for the clean lines of its brick structures and pleasing scale of its walkways and courtyards.

Whether a potential buyer would wish to preserve the buildings on a seven-hectare site that could have more value for a housing development is uncertain, however. Heritage Ottawa is vowing to “advocate for the preservation and adaptive reuse of the complex.”

The group said in a website post that Public Works “assures us” it is working with the City of Ottawa, which would have veto power over any development proposal. The city could also seek a municipal heritage designation for the campus, the group noted.

However, while such status can delay changes to a property, it cannot prevent them. Nor do the federal designations offer protection. The 1967 Sir John Carling Building, though recognized by the Federal Heritage Office since 2004, was demolished last year to avoid repair bills.

Late Thursday, Public Works said it is “assessing options” for the centre.



Sarah Gelbard, a researcher and writer on architecture and urban topics, counts the Heron Road campus among her favourite Ottawa sites. She hopes it can be preserved, “but seeing what’s happening in Ottawa right now with modernist architecture, I’m doubtful that someone’s going to take it over and recognize the heritage value and maintain it in that light.”

Gelbard, a Carleton University architecture graduate now working on her PhD in urban planning at McGill University in Montreal, points to the loss of the Carling Building, the replacement of the former Ottawa Congress Centre, and the planned reskinning of the National Arts Centre — the latter two examples of the brutalism movement in architecture — as examples of a continued disregard for modernism.

Unlike the crumbling Carling building, the study centre has been well maintained, with few alterations that would detract from its original design, Gelbard said.

“It’s actually still in really great condition, relative to its original. It’s kind of a time capsule … you look at the old photos from the 1960s and it kind of feels like you’re still there.”

The complex was an early commission of Ottawa architect Tim Murray, who was approached by the Sisters of the Congregation of Notre Dame and designed two schools, a convent and other structures, all placed around the anchor of a square-edged, copper-roofed chapel.

While a portion of the complex remains in use as a Catholic intermediate school, the rest was sold in 1973 to the federal government.

The property is in the Alta Vista ward of newly elected Ottawa Coun. Jean Cloutier. The councillor’s office said Thursday that Cloutier was unavailable for comment.

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Federal Study Centre (Campanile Complex)
1495 Heron Rd.

Property: 7.3 hectares

Number of buildings: 12

Built: 1963-1965

Architect: Tim Murray, Murray and Murray Associates

Original owner: Sisters of Congregation of Notre Dame

Original use: Boys’ high school, girls’ high school, convent, novitiate

Subsequent owner: Government of Canada (1973)

Subsequent uses: Language and other training

Floor area: 14,800 square metres (159,306 square feet)

Yearly payment to city in lieu of taxes: $327,895.29 (2013)

http://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-news/government-expected-to-sell-heron-road-training-centre
Does anybody know if the buildings are open to the public or is it limited access like a lot of government buildings? I think I'd be interested to go and see the interiors as well as the exterior architecture.
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Old Posted Feb 1, 2015, 12:02 AM
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Does anybody know if the buildings are open to the public or is it limited access like a lot of government buildings? I think I'd be interested to go and see the interiors as well as the exterior architecture.
Last time I was there in '95 you had to have a government pass AND appear on their list of authorized persons.

In terms of the residence tower, someone told me back in the day that the rooms were very small.
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There is a wood frame house-like structure being built at Carleton near the Sunnyside Entrance, visible off Bronson. Does anybody know what that is?
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Last time I was there in '95 you had to have a government pass AND appear on their list of authorized persons.

In terms of the residence tower, someone told me back in the day that the rooms were very small.
Is that to go into the buildings or to be on the campus outside?
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There is a wood frame house-like structure being built at Carleton near the Sunnyside Entrance, visible off Bronson. Does anybody know what that is?
As a Carleton Student, I have no idea and have been meaning to ask. It's an odd building, and the only thing I've ever seen that space used for is launching hot air balloons.
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As a Carleton Student, I have no idea and have been meaning to ask. It's an odd building, and the only thing I've ever seen that space used for is launching hot air balloons.
I think it is this.
http://www.insidethehousingevolution.com...ndale-centre-for-home-energy-innovation/
Pretty far from everything on campus...
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I never realized this place existed.

Oh wait - yes I did, but it's been years since I've been anywhere near there.
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Wasn't sure what thread to put this in but I saw it on another website and wanted to share it with you all. A few photos of before and after projects around Ottawa.

http://www.point2homes.com/news/canada-real-estate/6-years-transformation-in-ottawa.html
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I can see an argument for either community college or university usage/conversion for that Heron Road site. Could Algonquin do with some eastern Ottawa real estate for anything?
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I can see an argument for either community college or university usage/conversion for that Heron Road site. Could Algonquin do with some eastern Ottawa real estate for anything?
I doubt it. Algonquin had assets in the east at one time, but wanted to consolidate everything on their Woodroffe campus, which they have done.

This site on Heron looks like it would be a nice size for St.Paul University. Better buildings then what they currently have. There is no indication that SPU has been considering a move, so not likely to happen.

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I'm a little perplexed by the reclad of this building on Slater across from Arc Hotel. Is this all they're doing?!
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