ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

That isn't the fuqua development. Actually its 464 Bishop got the address wrong.

It is this property: http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/17321681/464-Bishop-Street-Atlanta-GA/

Ah, I assumed you meant 490 (Fuqua) which was trying to get a similar zoning change.

That's good news. The ZRB wanted to include retail or office space to keep jobs on the property... I wonder if the developer made that change or the zoning was just approved regardless.

 

Originally Posted by ATL_J

It beats an empty lot, for now, but in 10, hell even 5 years, will that insular development feel under utilized?  Probably and it'll be decades before it would be changed.  The Whole Foods complex he did with Sembler was obviously "better than nothing", but that lot on a whole breaks up the urban fabric of that area and is heavily underutilized.  Having more stringent zoning / code should eliminate these sort of developments.

Yeah, it's a ridiculous design for the area. There was a neighborhood meeting about it but I'm not sure what came of it.

[micropundit]

The proposed Riverwalk Village is a 104-acre mixed-use development on the east side of Ga. 400 in Roswell. As currently envisioned, it will feature more than 1,500 residential units, 1.7 million square feet of office, a hotel and a school.Riverwalk Village is an ecologically driven development that will include parks and public spaces, pedestrian-oriented areas near retail and entertainment and a system of public running, walking and biking trails that will connect the development and surrounding neighborhoods to the Chattahoochee River.

Riverwalk has not yet come before the city for official approval or public input. The developers expect this process to begin mid-year. Construction could begin in the next two years.

http://atlanta.curbed.com/archives/2015/...age-brings-amsterdam-to-roswell.php#more

[1lifealex]

Modera (90 Peachtree Place) has a tree cutting sign up I also saw heavy equipment the kind of heavy equipment that you would normally see at the beginning stages of construction so this may start soon we shall see

[AtlantaMustang]

Big news about the streetcar and future westside park.

Mayor Kasim Reed announced plans Wednesday to expand the Atlanta Streetcar and build what will become the city’s largest public park.
Speaking at the annual State of the City business breakfast, Reed said the city is taking the “first steps” to connect the Atlanta Streetcar’s downtown track eastward by three-quarters of a mile, ultimately connecting the rail line with the Beltline trail.

http://m.ajc.com/news/news/reed-announces-plans-for-citys-largest-park-street/nj4Wh/

[briantech]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Big news about the streetcar and future westside park.



http://m.ajc.com/news/news/reed-announces-plans-for-citys-largest-park-street/nj4Wh/

Thats kind of worded weird. Is he saying the streetcar expansion will connect to the beltline near the quarry?

Or are they just two separate events. Build the new park on the westside, AND extend the streetcar east to the eastside beltline trail?

[AtlantaMustang]

Originally Posted by briantech

Thats kind of worded weird. Is he saying the streetcar expansion will connect to the beltline near the quarry?

Or are they just two separate events. Build the new park on the westside, AND extend the streetcar east to the eastside beltline trail?

2 separate events.

[NickH]

Great news on the street car and park. Improving transportation and public spaces are so important as we continue to see all this exciting growth for the city.

[forj]

he can talk all day but both of those things have already been planned for years and he didnt announce any new funding as far as i know. so he is just saying "i support these things being done"

doesnt really get us any closer to streetcar expansion or building the quarry park. I mean we all already know Reed supports those things right?

that being said, here's hoping this does somehow help gain interest in funding. The buzz around the quarry park has been picking up steam recently so that's good. I know it will happen eventually

[Atlanta3000]

Originally Posted by AtlantaMustang

Big news about the streetcar and future westside park.



http://m.ajc.com/news/news/reed-announces-plans-for-citys-largest-park-street/nj4Wh/

I'm prepared to be smacked for what I am about to say: Why the F are we looking at funding another park (actually one that would be the largest in Atlanta), when this city desperately needs transportation solutions or further the buildout of the beltline?

In the world of "unlimited" resources the quarry park sounds like a great idea, unfortunately we have "limited" resources and it is best not to spread them to thin.

[Dettmann1]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

I'm prepared to be smacked for what I am about to say: Why the F are we looking at funding another park (actually one that would be the largest in Atlanta), when this city desperately needs transportation solutions or further the buildout of the beltline?

In the world of "unlimited" resources the quarry park sounds like a great idea, unfortunately we have "limited" resources and it is best not to spread them to thin.

Did you read the article? Funding for the park would come mostly from the Watershed department since they would also be making it a city water reservoir. That funding can't be used for transportation.

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

I'm prepared to be smacked for what I am about to say: Why the F are we looking at funding another park (actually one that would be the largest in Atlanta), when this city desperately needs transportation solutions or further the buildout of the beltline.

In the world of "unlimited" resources the quarry park sounds like a great idea, unfortunately we have "limited" resources and it is best not to spread them to thin.

Ignoring the fact that the Westside Reservoir Park is part of the BeltLine, the city doesn't need the BeltLine any more than the park... you just want it more. That's not how tax revenue works anyway.

[teejay]

Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

I'm prepared to be smacked for what I am about to say: Why the F are we looking at funding another park (actually one that would be the largest in Atlanta), when this city desperately needs transportation solutions or further the buildout of the beltline?

Because Atlanta is in the bottom third of cities when it comes to park space.

[Tuckerman]

It is always easy to compare what gets funded and what does not in terms of the real priorities. We apparently can easily support and fund large components of an unnecessary football stadium for more than 1.4 Billion $ and another 1/2 billion or so for an equally unnecessary baseball stadium. Can we fund the replacement of an outdated symphony hall? No. Necessary extensions of MARTA? No. A new park for the citizens? Apparently, yes maybe. The politics of funding at the local, state and national level is always amusing, if not depressing. Defense, yes; poverty, a little. While this is a topic for another thread, public funding does highly affect what the development of Atlanta will look like in the coming years. What would we like to see public monies spent on for the metro?

[ATLcubs]

Originally Posted by Tuckerman

It is always easy to compare what gets funded and what does not in terms of the real priorities. We apparently can easily support and fund large components of an unnecessary football stadium for more than 1.4 Billion $ and another 1/2 billion or so for an equally unnecessary baseball stadium. Can we fund the replacement of an outdated symphony hall? No. Necessary extensions of MARTA? No. A new park for the citizens? Apparently, yes maybe. The politics of funding at the local, state and national level is always amusing, if not depressing. Defense, yes; poverty, a little. While this is a topic for another thread, public funding does highly affect what the development of Atlanta will look like in the coming years. What would we like to see public monies spent on for the metro?

I have to respectfully disagree about the baseball stadium, the relocation of the stadium was actually very necessary, as most of the fans come from the north suburbs, and I believe the move will create more opportunities for future transportation improvements.

[ATLcubs]

Originally Posted by 1lifealex

Modera (90 Peachtree Place) has a tree cutting sign up I also saw heavy equipment the kind of heavy equipment that you would normally see at the beginning stages of construction so this may start soon we shall see

Are there still no public renderings for the tower portion of this project? I'm curious to see what it will look like right next University House?

[shivtim]

A few Loring Heights tidbits from the NPU-E agenda:

• Someone is seeking rezoning of 434 Trabert Ave to "Multi-family residential (townhouses), maximum floor area ratio of 1.49, Beltline overlay." This is across the tracks from Target at Atlantic Station, near the under construction "Heights at West Midtown" and the proposed apartments and adjacent mystery project on Bishop street.
• An applicant wants a parking variance for 490 Bishop Street, right on the 17th street curve next to the Heights at West Midtown. Not sure what this one's about, but they want 209 spaces for a "commercial development." For part of the same address, and a portion of the adjacent 1299 northside dr (which is across the street, so I'm not sure how it's "adjacent"), Fairfield Residential wants to rezone to "Multi-family residential, maximum floor area ratio of 3.2." Isn't this the Fuqua site?

This area is really taking off.

[Ant131531]

I never understood why the area around Atlantic Station hasn't taken off already(I mean really exploded). That area is underrated as far as walkability. You're close to restaurants, shopping, and a movie theatre with a nice park and monument in the middle. That can't be said for many of the neighborhoods in Atlanta.

[RocketSurgeon]

Originally Posted by Ant131531

I never understood why the area around Atlantic Station hasn't taken off already(I mean really exploded). That area is underrated as far as walkability. You're close to restaurants, shopping, and a movie theatre with a nice park and monument in the middle. That can't be said for many of the neighborhoods in Atlanta.

It actually hasn't taken long to fill in at all. There wasn't anything there until the late 00s (including the 17th Street bridge), and then there was a recession. Now that that's over, things are happening fast.

People used to make fun of Atlantic Station for being "in the middle of nowhere" and "an amusement park that suburbanites can come to and pretend they're in a city." I had a good feeling about it from the beginning and tried to convince those people to look into the future a little. It's not perfect, but the developer was forward thinking and the result has been the connection of Midtown and Westside, and now an entirely new neighborhood is growing organically around it.

The only reason it feels so "far" away (if you consider half a mile far) from the core of Midtown is that the northwestern part of Midtown is still mostly vacant. Once that area fills in, it's all going to feel like one contiguous neighborhood... the bridge will always be a long block to walk, but it will be the only gap eventually.

[Verge]

Originally Posted by ATLcubs

I have to respectfully disagree about the baseball stadium, the relocation of the stadium was actually very necessary, as most of the fans come from the north suburbs, and I believe the move will create more opportunities for future transportation improvements.

With equal respect-- the new Braves stadium is both a scam perpetrated on Cobb County (with their wholehearted participation) and a total break of trust with the city of Atlanta-- I am mad at the team and will be for a very long time as are many other (former) intown fans--

[Tuckerman]

On Braves to Cobb. The majority of attending fans may be on the northside of the metro, but the only connection to the new stadium will be by road and also by another unnecessary construction of an expensive pedestrian-ciculator bridge over I 285 (see today's AJC). If I believed that this move would actually result in a heavy rail MARTA line to the NW ending in Marietta or Kennesaw, I would be enthusiastic. IMO that possibility is decades away. I, for one, would not battle rush hour perimeter traffic on the northside to get to a 7:30 Braves game. It will be most interesting to follow the attendance at the new stadium.