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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 6:57 PM
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Interesting... and sad. That's when Pittsburgh actually had a neighborhood adjacent/contiguous to the central business district -- that destruction is something that hurts Pittsburgh to this day... and will always haunt it.

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With the golden triangle's sharp boundaries on 2 sides, the Hill was/is the only option for such connection/integration... and I'm not too confident the Penguins development can pull it off.
So... the Penguins development will at least be an improvement... as underwhelming as it may be. The cap over Crosstown should do a lot to physically and psychologically integrate it with Downtown.

Buncher developing its parking lot empire will bridge that gap between Downtown and the Strip District.

Incremental development has been occurring throughout Uptown.

Unfortunately, the bridges leading from Downtown often lead to wastelands across the rivers... further isolating Downtown from surrounding populations.

Three sisters bridges lead to the North Shore stadium parking district, the menacing and lifeless Allegheny Center monolith, and the post-apocalyptic wastelands of the former Schweitzer Loch.

Smithfield Bridge leads to the dull tourist trap Station Square with its long underutilized parking lots... this thin strip of land abruptly bounded by Mt. Washington's steep slope. To the west is a lonely highway leading to depressed areas... but the section of Carson between Station Square and 10th St. is a huge missed opportunity. Obviously, the flats get very narrow west of 10th... and E. Carson becomes one-sided... but those streets should be the focus of high-density residential development... you're right in between Downtown and one of the most exciting commercial districts in the city! There's so much residential development being built on the FAR side of Carson out around 30th... why not the 1st-10th area?
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 7:23 PM
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If you combined the cap over 579 (bridging downtown and the hill), with new inclines (bridging the strip and the hill), you could probably achieve some quality connectivity between those three neighborhoods. Think beautiful Eastside style TOD at the ends of the inclines. You'd also help residents in the hill access quality fresh food.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 7:38 PM
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Of course. Those are the usual suspects (and I'd put Boston solidly in that camp, Baltimore not so much). And in a large part why they have persisted to remain our urban centers with that "vibrant" and "major" classification. These are our places that have that "big city feel" when in their central cores.
In recent history, Beacon Hill was the only Boston neighborhood which was a quick/easy walk to Downtown. With the completion of the Big Dig, the North End was added. But IMHO areas like Back Bay and Bay Village are just a bit too far away from Downtown to count. South End is blocked off by 90, the West End was obliterated, and Downtown is surrounded by water on its other sides.

Not to say two historic residential districts right next to Downtown isn't a great thing for Boston, but it's not a fully intact fabric like Philadelphia.

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So... the Penguins development will at least be an improvement... as underwhelming as it may be. The cap over Crosstown should do a lot to physically and psychologically integrate it with Downtown.

Buncher developing its parking lot empire will bridge that gap between Downtown and the Strip District.

Incremental development has been occurring throughout Uptown.

Unfortunately, the bridges leading from Downtown often lead to wastelands across the rivers... further isolating Downtown from surrounding populations.

Three sisters bridges lead to the North Shore stadium parking district, the menacing and lifeless Allegheny Center monolith, and the post-apocalyptic wastelands of the former Schweitzer Loch.

Smithfield Bridge leads to the dull tourist trap Station Square with its long underutilized parking lots... this thin strip of land abruptly bounded by Mt. Washington's steep slope. To the west is a lonely highway leading to depressed areas... but the section of Carson between Station Square and 10th St. is a huge missed opportunity. Obviously, the flats get very narrow west of 10th... and E. Carson becomes one-sided... but those streets should be the focus of high-density residential development... you're right in between Downtown and one of the most exciting commercial districts in the city! There's so much residential development being built on the FAR side of Carson out around 30th... why not the 1st-10th area?
If you look at the old maps. the lower strip was already turning into a wasteland of warehouses by the 1920s. I think even with a lighter touch of urban renewal it would have been trashed by the present. The same is likely true for "The Ward" (e.g., modern North Shore), which was already seeing a lot of demolitions and conversion to low-use industrial. And of course there was never a neighborhood where Station Square was.

Uptown was far more trashed by Duquense than people realize though. As late as the 1957 map almost the entire area of the Duquense campus was still a dense residential neighborhood. These houses are the only remnants left. It borders a pretty dead part of Downtown, and of course there is a highway in the way, but I can't help but think it would be a very desirable area if still there today.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 8:51 PM
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New 4 story office building near the Steelers practice facility South Side.
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Avison Young’s Pittsburgh office announced earlier this week that it has been named the exclusive leasing agent for the 34th & Carson office development...Currently under construction, the 31,000-square-foot, four-story office building will be the second Carson Street project from FirstSite Development, LLC....Construction is expected to be completed fall 2015, with occupancy available to tenants at the same time.
The real estate firm is targeting smaller businesses.

http://popcitymedia.com/devnews/AvisonYoung34Carson012315.aspx
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 9:39 PM
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Add another apartment development to the list...5500 Baum

On the ZBA agenda:
more on this development which will have incredible proximity to the recently refreshed Wendy's restaurant

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...tment-development-proposed-for-baum.html

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100-unit apartment development proposed for Baum Boulevard


Feb 2, 2015, 3:56pm EST

A development team led by a local lawyer is pursuing a plan to build a new 100-unit apartment building at 5500 Baum Blvd., the former Rudy Molnar Service Center, a car repair shop which closed last summer after the property was sold.

A hearing notice for the project has been posted on the fencing surrounding the property that the proposal will be presented to the Pittsburgh Zoning Board of Adjustments at its Feb. 19 meeting, seeking a special exception and two variances.

The new building is proposed to be seven stores and include integral parking, 15 outdoor parking spaces and commercial space on its first floor, according to the agenda. The project needs a special exception for the number of stories as well as a variance for the height and the floor-area ratio, according to the zoning agenda.

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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 10:52 PM
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Realistically speaking though, not too many cities retained residential neighborhoods next to Downtown.
Yep, it was a nationwide movement.

But that doesn't really change the fact it was a tragedy everywhere it happened.
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Old Posted Feb 2, 2015, 10:58 PM
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But IMHO areas like Back Bay and Bay Village are just a bit too far away from Downtown to count.
That's maybe a longish-walk by U.S. standards, but it is a fantastic one. I think the overall effect is one of continuity even with the distances involved.

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If you look at the old maps. the lower strip was already turning into a wasteland of warehouses by the 1920s. I think even with a lighter touch of urban renewal it would have been trashed by the present. The same is likely true for "The Ward" (e.g., modern North Shore), which was already seeing a lot of demolitions and conversion to low-use industrial. And of course there was never a neighborhood where Station Square was.
Yeah, that was really all railroad-driven, which means the die was cast back in the 19th Century. But that makes the Lower Hill/Uptown all the more a tragedy, because for topographic reasons that corridor was not suited for railroad lines, unlike the river flats.
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UBER Opening Robotics Research Facility In Pittsburgh To Build Self-Driving Cars

Big news for autonomous vehicles, UBER, and Pittsburgh with just one announcement!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/02/uber-op...n-pittsburgh-to-build-self-driving-cars/

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Driver-on-demand service Uber is building a robotics research lab in Pittsburgh, PA to “kickstart autonomous taxi fleet development,” sources close to the decision have confirmed to TechCrunch. They say the company has hired talent from Carnegie Mellon University’s Robotics Institute, including lead engineering and commercialization experts.

Uber will be developing the core technology, the vehicles, and associated infrastructure at this Pittsburgh facility, according to sources. They have already hired a number of employees and made moves to outfit them with software, including a multi-hundred-thousand dollar investment in third-party engineering workstations.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 1:55 AM
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Big news for autonomous vehicles, UBER, and Pittsburgh with just one announcement!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/02/uber-op...n-pittsburgh-to-build-self-driving-cars/
Ahhh Could this be the reason for recent softening from the PUC towards UBER?
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 1:56 AM
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So... the Penguins development will at least be an improvement... as underwhelming as it may be. The cap over Crosstown should do a lot to physically and psychologically integrate it with Downtown.

Buncher developing its parking lot empire will bridge that gap between Downtown and the Strip District.

Incremental development has been occurring throughout Uptown.

Unfortunately, the bridges leading from Downtown often lead to wastelands across the rivers... further isolating Downtown from surrounding populations.

Three sisters bridges lead to the North Shore stadium parking district, the menacing and lifeless Allegheny Center monolith, and the post-apocalyptic wastelands of the former Schweitzer Loch.

Smithfield Bridge leads to the dull tourist trap Station Square with its long underutilized parking lots... this thin strip of land abruptly bounded by Mt. Washington's steep slope. To the west is a lonely highway leading to depressed areas... but the section of Carson between Station Square and 10th St. is a huge missed opportunity. Obviously, the flats get very narrow west of 10th... and E. Carson becomes one-sided... but those streets should be the focus of high-density residential development... you're right in between Downtown and one of the most exciting commercial districts in the city! There's so much residential development being built on the FAR side of Carson out around 30th... why not the 1st-10th area?



I agree. That area is right in the heart of it all. Also, it's connected to Downtown by what I think is the coolest bridge - the 10th St. From town, the Armstrong Tunnel burrows under the city and pops out at the river at the 10th St. bridge. The journey is like an adventure.

That part of South Side where the bridge leads is so industrial and old, I'd love to see a few really modern glass and steel slender condo towers rising up from that dense brick neighborhood.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 2:34 AM
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Big news for autonomous vehicles, UBER, and Pittsburgh with just one announcement!

http://techcrunch.com/2015/02/02/uber-op...n-pittsburgh-to-build-self-driving-cars/
Now this is awesome! Always a supporter of Uber and also Lyft!
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 5:22 AM
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Massive news. On the scale of Google opening shop here years ago. Seems like Pittsburgh's tech scene has really gone over the tipping point now. This is a halo win for the city - currently sitting in Google News' top 5 stories column.
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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 8:36 AM
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Massive news. On the scale of Google opening shop here years ago. Seems like Pittsburgh's tech scene has really gone over the tipping point now. This is a halo win for the city - currently sitting in Google News' top 5 stories column.
Certainly seems to be generating a ton of exposure for Roboburgh.

BrianTH's vision of a future of driverless cars has taken another step toward reality.
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Awesome. It would be great if that meant early roll out here.

Any word yet on whether they are opening their own office somewhere? BKSQ 2.0.3? It would be great if Uber and Google were the Sharks and Jets over there.

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Looks like they're already working out of offices in Lawrenceville:
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The research center, located within in two facilities in Lawrenceville across the street from NERC, is currently up and running but Holden would not disclose how many employees Uber has at the center. Those working there are a mix of recruits from CMU as well as others brought in from outside the university, he said. He said he did not have a figure on the square footage the company is currently occupying. He said there is the possibility for expansion in the future.
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BrianTH's vision of a future of driverless cars has taken another step toward reality.
I will personally make it my mission in the world to never allow this to happen.
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Hey guys, don't mean to 🞵🞵🞵🞵 in here and go off topic but I have a question: are there any books out there that document pittsburgh's urban land development/planning history? Really interested in reading something comprehensive about land use in this city. Thanks a lot!
You might find some of what you want in Roy Lubove's Twentieth Century Pittsburgh, published back in the late 90s by University of Pittsburgh Press. It is two volumes (in paperback). Volume I is sub-titled "Government, Business and Enviromental Change;" Volume II "The Post-Steel Era." I read them years ago and really enjoyed them. Lots of info on the planning process. I think I have seen them recently on the Pitt Press website.
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You might find some of what you want in Roy Lubove's Twentieth Century Pittsburgh, published back in the late 90s by University of Pittsburgh Press. It is two volumes (in paperback). Volume I is sub-titled "Government, Business and Enviromental Change;" Volume II "The Post-Steel Era." I read them years ago and really enjoyed them. Lots of info on the planning process. I think I have seen them recently on the Pitt Press website.
There is also a really good book by Edward Muller and John Bauman called Before Renaissance: Planning in Pittsburgh, 1889-1943. This book goes into great detail about the start of the Pittsburgh Planning Commission and has many interesting stories about developments that really changed the city and some that never materialized.
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I will personally make it my mission in the world to never allow this to happen.
Resistance is futile.

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Old Posted Feb 3, 2015, 2:59 PM
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Cool! And that's the area where the owner wants to cut away the old building for apartments but leave some of the structure in place to frame a public space. At the time of this article, he was talking about office space as a possibility for a second phase:

http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/bl...ad-to-redeveloping-a-major.html?page=all

So that really could become a whole new BKSQ-type development, potentially anchored by Uber.
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