Calgary International Airport II - Page 135

Johnny Aussie · #**2681** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 12:48 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

There's been speculation in this thread about what would happen to PHX... I haven't heard that specifically but it makes sense. WS will be happy to sweep in and add PHX seats from both cities where necessary.

Some nice history back to the HP days of that PHX service. Too bad if it goes away. A mainline alternative to WS/RV to LAX does sound nice though.

I did read AA is going to get rid of some of their older A320s. From the US/HP days.

As for WS sweeping in? Yeah possibly but a lot of the US/AA pax use PHX as a good connecting point to other US cities and Mexico. So who knows what WS would do. I could see them adding a few extra flights though.

Infrequent Poster · #**2682** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 4:48 AM**

Have the dec 2014 passenger totals been released yet? I'm curious to see what the year end totals look like. I have searched and cant seem to find them....but can find them for pretty much all the other major airports.

Johnny Aussie · #**2683** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 7:08 AM**

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Originally Posted by Infrequent Poster

Have the dec 2014 passenger totals been released yet? I'm curious to see what the year end totals look like. I have searched and cant seem to find them....but can find them for pretty much all the other major airports.

Not yet.

This is where they will be posted when they do ---> http://www.yyc.com/en-us/media/factsfigures/passengerstatistics.aspx

YYZ is really behind... They have only released up to October.

zooter · #**2684** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 3:42 PM**

Hi Guys, I don't post much here but have been a long time reader. I couldn't find my answer using the search function but does anyone know what the plans are for our Domestic terminal once the International project is completed? Will the Domestic terminal expand and take over some or all of the space that is being vacated?

Nick · #**2685** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 7:58 PM**

The plan is for the existing terminal to be all domestic gates. It can't some soon enough either. There are many times when Westjet has filled all their gates and we have several Westjet aircraft waiting for occupied gates.

Another thing to watch in the future is the location of the walk-up gates, 61-65. Those are used by Jazz, Air Georgian, and Central Mountain Air. They are in a temporary location east of the C concourse and west of a pier of a concourse of the new terminal. They won't be able to stay where they are. They could move it to aircraft parking pads and continue to use the bus, or locate it somewhere else. As someone who deals with it daily, the apron is very tight there isn't really extra space to put aircraft.

tuffyy · #**2686** Posted **Jan 31, 2015, 8:43 PM**

That would be interesting when you consider YYC and YEG are pretty much among the largest markets into PHX from Canada.

However if the plan is to build up LAX and downsize PHX that would make sense in the AA reshuffling of things.

Allegiant Air was eyeing Alberta-PHX sometime ago but not sure if that's still being planned.

zooter · #**2687** Posted **Feb 1, 2015, 2:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by Nick

The plan is for the existing terminal to be all domestic gates. It can't some soon enough either. There are many times when Westjet has filled all their gates and we have several Westjet aircraft waiting for occupied gates.

Another thing to watch in the future is the location of the walk-up gates, 61-65. Those are used by Jazz, Air Georgian, and Central Mountain Air. They are in a temporary location east of the C concourse and west of a pier of a concourse of the new terminal. They won't be able to stay where they are. They could move it to aircraft parking pads and continue to use the bus, or locate it somewhere else. As someone who deals with it daily, the apron is very tight there isn't really extra space to put aircraft.

This is great news, I assume the current US immigration area could be used for a larger security check point area or something else? I also hope there is an upgrade in amenities like washrooms, restaurants, etc.

#**2688** Posted **Feb 2, 2015, 4:52 AM**

777 diversion day in Alberta.

AF84 CDG-SFO diverted to YYC due to medical.
AC854 YVR-LHR diverted to YEG due to something mechanical. Outbound flight plan all set so I'm thinking they won't be here for long.

Cage · #**2689** Posted **Feb 2, 2015, 6:50 AM**

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Originally Posted by zooter

This is great news, I assume the current US immigration area could be used for a larger security check point area or something else? I also hope there is an upgrade in amenities like washrooms, restaurants, etc.

Yes longer term one is for large 21 lane preboard security area to replace the current security areas for a,b, and c.

The current b security area however must get ripped out once the transborder ops move over to international terminal. B preboard security becomes the lane way for the compact transport systems, aka the golf carts.

B concourse gets completely renovated after the international terminal opens.

Renos to the concourse and immigration areas will take about 2 years to complete after the international terminal opens. HOWEVER, consistent with all other major terminal expansions, I expect the YYCAA to be broke after the current round of expansion is complete, so expect the the b concourse to remain in present condition for a while longer.

FormerWingTipper · #**2690** Posted **Feb 2, 2015, 11:01 AM**

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Originally Posted by Cage

Yes longer term one is for large 21 lane preboard security area to replace the current security areas for a,b, and c.

The current b security area however must get ripped out once the transborder ops move over to international terminal. B preboard security becomes the lane way for the compact transport systems, aka the golf carts.

B concourse gets completely renovated after the international terminal opens.

Renos to the concourse and immigration areas will take about 2 years to complete after the international terminal opens. HOWEVER, consistent with all other major terminal expansions, I expect the YYCAA to be broke after the current round of expansion is complete, so expect the the b concourse to remain in present condition for a while longer.

I suspect that "B" may become a regional concourse as Air Canada is planning on increasing flying with Jazz and WestJet has Encore. Obviously regional flying is increasing all around us and that wasn't the case decades ago when the terminal expanded into then Concourse D.

With Gates 61-65 and 1-4 being temporary, you may just see a ground level terminal for the new 'B' pier that would hold Air Georgian, Central Mountain Air, Encore, Jazz, etc. and have walkout gates to all the flights. They gotta go somewhere...

hoboman27 · #**2691** Posted **Feb 2, 2015, 11:40 PM**

A little late, but does anyone know what that was about? A charter or a scheduled flight?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/WJA1004
YYC-FLL, sure would be a nice service to have.

thegx · #**2692** Posted **Feb 2, 2015, 11:56 PM**

WestJet has tried both FLL and MIA from Calgary. Both failed.

YYCguys · #**2693** Posted **Feb 3, 2015, 12:01 AM**

The flight that hoboman referenced was just a couple of weeks ago, long after that route had been cancelled. So it seemed to be an out of the ordinary flight.

hoboman27 · #**2694** Posted **Feb 3, 2015, 6:57 PM**

really disappointed when the MIA flight was cancelled, I guess the 2 groups of snowbirds in Alberta are either Phoenix/Palm Springs, or Mexico/Caribbeans.

Johnny Aussie · #**2695** Posted **Feb 3, 2015, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by hoboman27

really disappointed when the MIA flight was cancelled, I guess the 2 groups of snowbirds in Alberta are either Phoenix/Palm Springs, or Mexico/Caribbeans.

To a lesser extent you could throw in Hawaii and San Diego too. Florida is a much bigger draw from Eastern Canada.

Even with the pullout still many one stop options to all Florida cities anyway (and nonstop to MCO of course!)
And Westjet has such a huge transborder operation at YYC (year round) and just going to get bigger.

#**2696** Posted **Feb 3, 2015, 10:26 PM**

I hear WS flies the odd person to Las Vegas as well.

If IAH works but MIA couldn't... well that'll be interesting.

Johnny Aussie · #**2697** Posted **Feb 3, 2015, 11:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

I hear WS flies the odd person to Las Vegas as well.

If IAH works but MIA couldn't... well that'll be interesting.

IAH will have much more business travel and yeah... 3 times daily to LAS how did I miss that!

Johnny Aussie · #**2698** Posted **Feb 4, 2015, 1:44 AM**

Sunwing will operate 8 weekly flights out of YYC to various sun destinations this summer.

One weekly to each of CUN, CCC, FPO, SJD, MBJ, PVR, SNU, VRA.

All flights originate in either YEG or YVR except for CUN which is a standalone flight.

This is up from only 3 flights per week last summer.

#**2699** Posted **Feb 4, 2015, 2:23 AM**

Well that makes me feel better about the double 77W loss!

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

IAH will have much more business travel and yeah...

For sure, but I meant interesting in the sense that IAH-YYC on UA/AC is one of the biggest transborder strangleholds. Tall order for WS to squeeze in and if they do, it won't be with feed on the US side that I was hoping they'd get at MIA.

Johnny Aussie · #**2700** Posted **Feb 4, 2015, 2:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Acey

Well that makes me feel better about the double 77W loss!

For sure, but I meant interesting in the sense that IAH-YYC on UA/AC is one of the biggest transborder strangleholds. Tall order for WS to squeeze in and if they do, it won't be with feed on the US side that I was hoping they'd get at MIA.

Yeah, that puts an additional 750 seats per week back into int'l capacity for the summer compared to last year.

Yup and I am really so far removed what's going on with the oil patch these days I have no idea how the price fall will affect business traffic or not. Perhaps a bit of bad timing?