SLC: Performing Arts Center and 111 Tower - Page 29

jedikermit · #**561** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 3:19 PM**

Thanks Old&New!

Dallas Snob · #**562** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 4:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by asies1981

Photo update on the PAC and 111 taken yesterday. If you guys remember the PAC was originally scheduled to be finished July of 2016, but now is scheduled to be completed next January. While I would have loved to see more snow this year, the weather has been great for construction timelines, lol.

OH HOLY NIGHT! That's what I'm talking about...pictures from different perspectives. I BELEIVE! Take me to the Jordan River and baptize me! I AM CONVERTED! It is obvious and clear that the core rebar for 111 is at least 1 full story above the theatre. Hallelujah and AMEN!

EPdesign · #**563** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 4:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

OH HOLY NIGHT! That's what I'm talking about...pictures from different perspectives. I BELEIVE! Take me to the Jordan River and baptize me! I AM CONVERTED! It is obvious and clear that the core rebar for 111 is at least 1 full story above the theatre. Hallelujah and AMEN!

Lol

SLC Ute · #**564** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

No, I'm not talking about EPAC at all. Look at the lobby sketches closely. I don't have time right now to markup what I'm referring to.

When you get a chance, I would like to see which sketches you are referencing. Thanks

Twothirty8 · #**565** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 9:35 PM**

I'm taking a tour of the EPAC next Wednesday.

I'll do my best to update y'all on the info I find out, and photos too if I can figure out how to post them on here. The tour should be with the construction manager, and some of the development team for the EPAC.

Also, I have not heard yet if these tours are open to the public, but I'll let you know when I find out.

UTPlanner · #**566** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 10:39 PM**

I can verify the earlier statement made that there was a large section of concrete poured in the foundations of the 111 Tower that is now in the process of being removed. It is going to set them back a while but the unexpected mild weather should not keep them from finishing too far off their original goal.

I also heard, second hand of course, that PRI told them in a meeting that the building is 50% leased. I didn't hear it directly from PRI but it is from a very good source.

SLC Projects · #**567** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 10:45 PM**

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I can verify the earlier statement made that there was a large section of concrete poured in the foundations of the 111 Tower that is now in the process of being removed. It is going to set them back a while but the unexpected mild weather should not keep them from finishing too far off their original goal.

I also heard, second hand of course, that PRI told them in a meeting that the building is 50% leased. I didn't hear it directly from PRI but it is from a very good source.

50% leased is great news, if true. What % do you guys think 111 must be to get Boyer Company moving forward with their 151 development? 60%?, 80%? Still over a year out before 111 opens, plenty of time for this tower to be fully or near leased out by then.

Makid · #**568** Posted **Jan 28, 2015, 11:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by SLC Projects

50% leased is great news, if true. What % do you guys think 111 must be to get Boyer Company moving forward with their 151 development? 60%?, 80%? Still over a year out before 111 opens, plenty of time for this tower to be fully or near leased out by then.

Mostly, we don't need to worry about the lease % at 111 for 151 to begin. We just need 151 to get to the pre-leased threshold that is needed for the banks to loan Boyer the money for construction. This can be anywhere from 20% to 40% depending on the collateral and those that have signed a pre-lease agreement.

With 111 at 50% already and 222 nearing 80%, I don't think we will have a long wait for 151 to start construction.

Future Mayor · #**569** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 2:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by SLC Ute

When you get a chance, I would like to see which sketches you are referencing. Thanks

I may be missing them too, but I'm not seeing any columns in the back of the lobby either.

jubguy3 · #**570** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 3:17 AM**

From a couple pages ago

[QUOTE=Old&New;6885288]

Definitely an improvement. I like the all glass foyer. Judging by the looks of it, the tower will in-fact hang from the roof, and there will be no steel rising below the third floor.

DCRes · #**571** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 4:49 PM**

Floors 15 and 16 of 222 have been completely empty since the building opened. There has been a lot of construction happening on floor 16 and I just found out that the entire floor has been leased by a make-up company, Perfectly Posh.

EPdesign · #**572** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 5:26 PM**

[QUOTE=jubguy3;6893861]From a couple pages ago

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Originally Posted by Old&New

Definitely an improvement. I like the all glass foyer. Judging by the looks of it, the tower will in-fact hang from the roof, and there will be no steel rising below the third floor.

Does this mean we won't see steal rise but have to wait for it to drop from the top? This is going to be interesting to watch if such is the case

Dallas Snob · #**573** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 7:47 PM**

111 Main is a non-column design. (think of the original WTC's). The weight load is carried by the core and the actual exterior walls...allowing for floor to ceiling glass plates to maximize light and views. It's obvious from the rendering that the EPAC had to be built first to enable the lobby to have no support structure. The core and EPAC wall IS the support structure. I didn't realize that 222 Main and 111 Main are both designed by the same architect at Skidmore.

Stenar · #**574** Posted **Jan 29, 2015, 9:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

111 Main is a non-column design. (think of the original WTC's). The weight load is carried by the core and the actual exterior walls...allowing for floor to ceiling glass plates to maximize light and views. It's obvious from the rendering that the EPAC had to be built first to enable the lobby to have no support structure. The core and EPAC wall IS the support structure. I didn't realize that 222 Main and 111 Main are both designed by the same architect at Skidmore.

The EPAC wall is not supporting it.

Dallas Snob · #**575** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Stenar

The EPAC wall is not supporting it.

No? Is that a fact from the architect? Not challenging you, just asking for confirmation. I suppose what I am referring to is the curtain glass lobby does not EXTEND past the EPAC wall.

EPdesign · #**576** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 4:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

No? Is that a fact from the architect? Not challenging you, just asking for confirmation. I suppose what I am referring to is the curtain glass lobby does not EXTEND past the EPAC wall.

I mean no offense, but you really need to see the structure physically to be able to understand why it is so clear to those observing how the construction is progressing. Picture do not do justice to how clearly individual the two structures actually are

jubguy3 · #**577** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 6:02 PM**

There were concrete trucks yesterday

Stenar · #**578** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 7:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by Dallas Snob

No? Is that a fact from the architect? Not challenging you, just asking for confirmation. I suppose what I am referring to is the curtain glass lobby does not EXTEND past the EPAC wall.

It's a much discussed fact on this forum.

But there's also this: "Skidmore Owings & Merrill, the international architecture firm behind 222 Main, had designed a state-of-the-art hat truss for 111 Main that will allow them to build 21,000-square-foot floors on a 17,000-square-foot footprint, using a cantilever system that will essentially support a third of the weight from the roof, Bingham said."

Source: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/money/56945533-79/main-salt-building-office.html.csp

Orlando · #**579** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 8:24 PM**

I'm still trying to understand how this structure works. 1/3 of the structure is suspended from the roof "hat" structure. EP Design says that the EPAC structure and 111 structure are not connected, meaning the structure of 111 is not coming down through EPAC. However, we see the glass lobby renderings and see no column supports coming down to the ground. So, that 1/3 is not supported either? No offense EP Design, but I believe all that bulky steel we are seeing for the portion of EPAC, which will be under 111, will be used to support 111 above. Is there an official statement that proves otherwise?

Stenar · #**580** Posted **Jan 30, 2015, 8:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

I'm still trying to understand how this structure works. 1/3 of the structure is suspended from the roof "hat" structure. EP Design says that the EPAC structure and 111 structure are not connected, meaning the structure of 111 is not coming down through EPAC. However, we see the glass lobby renderings and see no column supports coming down to the ground. So, that 1/3 is not supported either? No offense EP Design, but I believe all that bulky steel we are seeing for the portion of EPAC, which will be under 111, will be used to support 111 above. Is there an official statement that proves otherwise?

Only half of the lobby doesn't have supports.