Stadiums and Arenas of Canada

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by drew

Especially with the recent alignment that has the West with 2 fewer teams than they East. If QC is to come back, they have to shuffle the decks again, and at least one more team comes back to the West.

The 16/14 east/west split seems to be why the NHL is pushing for two Western teams in LV and Seattle.

All that being said, QC makes the most sense to me from a stable economic base, fan support as well (obviously). I really hope they get a team in the near future. I honestly thought they were at most one or two years behind Winnipeg.

I would love to see them get a team back. Words couldn't explain what it's done for Winnipeg. But when it comes to money and..Again the alignment Seattle and Vegas just make so much sense. Casinos/Hotels will eat those tickets and suites up in minutes and pay anything to have their names on the boards in Vegas. And Seattle will sell that arena out easily as hockey is pretty big out there and might help fill the void that the Celtics left. On the plus for the NHL they have a City to relocate to if Dallas/Arizona/Florida exhaust all other options. I do agree that the new Arena in Quebec could see the same fate as Copps Col.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

The Quebec Nordiques will win the Stanley Cup before Edmonton.

and the habs........

[GreaterMontréal]

http://www.ville.quebec.qc.ca/webcameras/amphitheatre/interieur2.aspx

[Oilkountry]

I love that open concourse seat access. MTS centre could have been a 16,500 seat building with way wider concourses if that was a though back then

[J.OT13]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

and the habs........

And Ottawa, and Toronto... Maybe not Winnipeg, I believe in Winnipeg.

[FutureSmith]

Originally Posted by Acajack

A bigger question mark that has not been raised about the NHL in Quebec City is that the prospective owner for the team (and the only one that's been seriously talked about), Pierre Karl Péladeau, will likely be the new leader of the PQ and perhaps Premier of Quebec one day. He's unlikely to juggle both that job description and ownership of an NHL team.

Not quite the only one talked about:

http://www.ctvnews.ca/sports/brian-mulroney-fighting-to-get-nordiques-back-to-quebec-city-1.1723512

[FrAnKs]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Winnipeg's main advantage is that it got its NHL team back when the getting was good. Bravo to them.

The stars may not be so favourably aligned for Quebec City in the coming years.

Let's just remember that it took several years to see the jets back in town !
I just think the Nordiques will be back hence not as quick as we hope.

I wish that for everything postive it will bring to our city and even if I'm not a Nordiques fan because I'm Montréal. I know how the nordiques are very important for the folks around here !

But finally, there is just one man who will decide ; Gary bettman and no other.

[Andy6]

It's going to be tough if the dollar stays low. It's just another reason for U.S. owners and the New York head office to keep Quebec on the back burner. On the other hand, I would be surprised (and a bit angry if I were a Qc taxpayer) if they built such an expensive coliseum without some pretty strong assurances that they would get a team within 3-5 years.

I want to see another Jets - Nordiques game someday. I can barely remember Winnipeg playing the Oilers in the WHA years (they were such a non-entity of a team) but the Nordiques games were special, especially the crazy Avco Cup finals between the two teams.

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by drew

All that being said, QC makes the most sense to me from a stable economic base, fan support as well (obviously). I really hope they get a team in the near future. I honestly thought they were at most one or two years behind Winnipeg.

The issue is that there's no area for growth; people in Quebec already like hockey and already watch the NHL. Would Nordiques 2.0 sell tickets? Yes. Would people buy their merchandise? Yes. But from a TV standpoint (which trumps all) it pales in comparison to the possible coups in Las Vegas/Seattle/etc. Even if they're only possible, the upside would be much larger if it worked. I think this weekend's show in Columbus proves that the NHL is willing to go to an untapped market (Ohio) and do relatively-to-very well. It's my opinion that Seattle would do just as well as Columbus if not better.

As long as the Canadian dollar stays below 90 there's no chance Nords2 happens. Back in the 90s when the dollar was low Calgary, Edmonton, and Ottawa all nearly folded. Had it not been for the NHL (And Bettman, who gets zero credit for this) sticking with these franchises and finding owners they surely would have all relocated.

[FrankieFlowerpot]

Originally Posted by king10

I like the Gold material underneath. Would've looked better like that IMO.

The insulation????

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by JHikka

The issue is that there's no area for growth; people in Quebec already like hockey and already watch the NHL. Would Nordiques 2.0 sell tickets? Yes. Would people buy their merchandise? Yes. But from a TV standpoint (which trumps all) it pales in comparison to the possible coups in Las Vegas/Seattle/etc. Even if they're only possible, the upside would be much larger if it worked. I think this weekend's show in Columbus proves that the NHL is willing to go to an untapped market (Ohio) and do relatively-to-very well. It's my opinion that Seattle would do just as well as Columbus if not better.

As long as the Canadian dollar stays below 90 there's no chance Nords2 happens. Back in the 90s when the dollar was low Calgary, Edmonton, and Ottawa all nearly folded. Had it not been for the NHL (And Bettman, who gets zero credit for this) sticking with these franchises and finding owners they surely would have all relocated.

the $Can could go as low as 0.65

[craner]

Origionally posted by Oilkountry
Winnipeg has defined itself as a city on the rise. Nowhere in Canada has seen an economic growth like Winnipeg outside of Alberta. look at the changes in Winnipeg in like 5 years. The Airport,Convention centre,IGF, the museum ect theirs gonna be cranes in Winnipeg's skyline for the foreseeable future including new skyscrapers.

Originally Posted by Acajack

Respectfully, I am not sure you know much about Quebec City. This is like a chamber of commerce promo piece that you are reciting. I don't have anything against Winnipeg, BTW. I just don't see why it's miles ahead of Quebec City.

^Perfect response to Oilcountry's comments - pretty much exactly my thoughts.

[Oilkountry]

Yeah okay. Fact is everyone on this forum could sit here and say Quebec is the best province in this entire country and Quebec city is gonna get 5 teams and the new arena is the best in the world and the world should be more like Quebec and that wouldn't be pro Quebec enough for you. Because if you're not talking like you're pro Quebec then you're obviously anti Quebec. Such a classic typical response. I'm not kissing an entire provinces — just because you guys get offended if I don't. Their's 9 other provinces in this beautiful country and believe it or not Quebec doesn't hang over all of them. Yes Winnipeg is moving forward at a rate unseen in Canada of cities not directly affected by Oil. End of story Quebec probably isn't going to see a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Sorry I'm not sorry. It's not the way I want it but I do strongly (like basically every other non Quebecer here) believe that's the way it is. Now please stop treating me like I'm part of some Anti Quebec terrorist group because it's getting pretty annoying to have to kiss a provinces @$$ in fear of being bombarded by it's citizens It's pathetic how butthurt you guys get if someone doesn't prop Quebec on a pedestal

[GreaterMontréal]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

Yeah okay. Fact is everyone on this forum could sit here and say Quebec is the best province in this entire country and Quebec city is gonna get 5 teams and the new arena is the best in the world and the world should be more like Quebec and that wouldn't be pro Quebec enough for you. Because if you're not talking like you're pro Quebec then you're obviously anti Quebec. Such a classic typical response. I'm not kissing an entire provinces — just because you guys get offended if I don't. Their's 9 other provinces in this beautiful country and believe it or not Quebec doesn't hang over all of them. Yes Winnipeg is moving forward at a rate unseen in Canada of cities not directly affected by Oil. End of story Quebec probably isn't going to see a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Sorry I'm not sorry. It's not the way I want it but I do strongly (like basically every other non Quebecer here) believe that's the way it is. Now please stop treating me like I'm part of some Anti Quebec terrorist group because it's getting pretty annoying to have to kiss a provinces @$$ in fear of being bombarded by it's citizens It's pathetic how butthurt you guys get if someone doesn't prop Quebec on a pedestal

Of course Quebec City will not get a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Seattle+Las vegas , 16 teams WC.
Florida to Quebec City, done.

you just have to wait, be patient. , 32 teams .

[PhilippeMtl]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

Yeah okay. Fact is everyone on this forum could sit here and say Quebec is the best province in this entire country and Quebec city is gonna get 5 teams and the new arena is the best in the world and the world should be more like Quebec and that wouldn't be pro Quebec enough for you. Because if you're not talking like you're pro Quebec then you're obviously anti Quebec. Such a classic typical response. I'm not kissing an entire provinces — just because you guys get offended if I don't. Their's 9 other provinces in this beautiful country and believe it or not Quebec doesn't hang over all of them. Yes Winnipeg is moving forward at a rate unseen in Canada of cities not directly affected by Oil. End of story Quebec probably isn't going to see a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Sorry I'm not sorry. It's not the way I want it but I do strongly (like basically every other non Quebecer here) believe that's the way it is. Now please stop treating me like I'm part of some Anti Quebec terrorist group because it's getting pretty annoying to have to kiss a provinces @$$ in fear of being bombarded by it's citizens It's pathetic how butthurt you guys get if someone doesn't prop Quebec on a pedestal

Wow.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

Yeah okay. Fact is everyone on this forum could sit here and say Quebec is the best province in this entire country and Quebec city is gonna get 5 teams and the new arena is the best in the world and the world should be more like Quebec and that wouldn't be pro Quebec enough for you. Because if you're not talking like you're pro Quebec then you're obviously anti Quebec. Such a classic typical response. I'm not kissing an entire provinces — just because you guys get offended if I don't. Their's 9 other provinces in this beautiful country and believe it or not Quebec doesn't hang over all of them. Yes Winnipeg is moving forward at a rate unseen in Canada of cities not directly affected by Oil. End of story Quebec probably isn't going to see a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Sorry I'm not sorry. It's not the way I want it but I do strongly (like basically every other non Quebecer here) believe that's the way it is. Now please stop treating me like I'm part of some Anti Quebec terrorist group because it's getting pretty annoying to have to kiss a provinces @$$ in fear of being bombarded by it's citizens It's pathetic how butthurt you guys get if someone doesn't prop Quebec on a pedestal

Thanks for showing your true colours. I (and others I am sure) suspected this would surface eventually, but one is never sure until it actually bubbles to the surface.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by Acajack

Thanks for showing your true colours. I (and others I am sure) suspected this would surface eventually, but one is never sure until it actually bubbles to the surface.

I Constantly get attacked by Quebecois and its ridiculous. It's boarder line offensive. True colors? I never really say anything bad about Quebec my family is from there. But because I have no desire to make it seem like Quebec is above the rest Canada I don't think it warrants this If that same rink was built in Alberta you guys would absolutely hate it. Honestly I just don't see why I cant have an opinion about the Quebec/NHL situation? I wasn't being arrogant about it nor was I being rude. But I don't have to be rude I've seen this before on this thread when I was new to the forum anyone puts Quebec lower then anyone else on ANY scale in ANY situation they instantly get belittled by 3-4 of you. I don't care how many meme's you wanna post or act like I'm Just being unreasonable. If i said the CN tower was the tallest building in Canada it would offend you.

[Acajack]

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

I Constantly get attacked by Quebecois and its ridiculous. It's boarder line offensive. True colors? I never really say anything bad about Quebec my family is from there. But because I have no desire to make it seem like Quebec is above the rest Canada I don't think it warrants this If that same rink was built in Alberta you guys would absolutely hate it. Honestly I just don't see why I cant have an opinion about the Quebec/NHL situation? I wasn't being arrogant about it nor was I being rude.

Ah yes, because this is an accurate depiction of the posts from Quebec on this thread and others...

Originally Posted by Oilkountry

Yeah okay. Fact is everyone on this forum could sit here and say Quebec is the best province in this entire country and Quebec city is gonna get 5 teams and the new arena is the best in the world and the world should be more like Quebec and that wouldn't be pro Quebec enough for you.

Riiiight.

[Oilkountry]

Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal

Of course Quebec City will not get a team unless 1 of today's 30 fail. Seattle+Las vegas , 16 teams WC.
Florida to Quebec City, done.

you just have to wait, be patient. , 32 teams .

That's Exactly what I said. I said Vegas and Seattle for expansion and explained my reasons I came to that conclusion. And I said the NHL will have a ready and willing City to relocate too in Quebec. reasonable?

[Oilkountry]

I remember when I said that Vancouver and Toronto were Canada's more flashy Cities like LA. And Montreal was more of a historical city known for its beauty Like Boston or Philly..... If I would have said Montreal was a Flashy city and wasn't known for its History and Beauty..... I remember someone on this forum warning me about it. I know I'm about to get dumped on by every member of this forum and I honestly couldn't care less.