YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 344

Vagabond · #**6861** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 6:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by ACT7

Has this really been the biggest impediment to South American service from YVR? I can't help but think this is not the case. If the demand was there, service would have likely started already, no? This seems to be the same argument YYC management has been using to justify their behemoth airport expansion - that somehow airlines are waiting on the sidelines until some facility, process, or policy is implemented. Maybe I'm just being skeptical but the logical side of me just doesn't see this as a huge catalyst. I do think that IF an airline is looking to start YVR service to South America or India anyway, this is just something that's a nice to have.

Can't speak much to South America, but I know (anecdotally) that a lot of Indian business travellers like AC's international product and would prefer to transit to/from US destinations via YYZ and YVR than, say, EWR or ORD, if it wasn't for the transit visa issue.

Also, I don't think you would need large #s of passengers to take advantage of TWOV to see an impact. A few extra passengers daily in business class (travelling from India to, say, LAX/SFO/SEA) would probably be sufficient to push a prospective YVR-DEL non-stop flight at least into spitting range of sustainability. It's not inconceivable that AC could pry away the necessary handful of Star Alliance loyalists from Lufthansa and/or United on these routes, and the back of the plane would pretty much fill itself with YVR traffic.

Johnny Aussie · #**6862** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 12:03 PM**

KLM has earmarked YVR for the 787-900.

Perhaps as early as next year.

Nice!

Source is in Dutch.

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/eerste-klm-787-9-vlucht-naar-bahrein

Speaking of the 787-900.... just booked a trip to YVR in the summer on UA... Doing the nonstop MEL-LAX and vv.

Done the 787-800 already... Time to try out the 787-9.

Hopefully Air NZ will add the 787-900 to YVR soon as well. Had the pleasure of seeing that in AKL airport on both my recent flights there.

trofirhen · #**6863** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 1:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

KLM has earmarked YVR for the 787-900.

Perhaps as early as next year.
Nice!
Source is in Dutch.

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/eerste-klm-787-9-vlucht-naar-bahrein
.................

It'll be great to se the last of those KLM DC-10s at YVR

Denscity · #**6864** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 4:28 PM**

Exotic (to me at least) tail alert: Skyteam China Eastern in navy. Never seen one of those before.

deasine · #**6865** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 4:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

KLM has earmarked YVR for the 787-900.

Perhaps as early as next year.

Hopefully Air NZ will add the 787-900 to YVR soon as well. Had the pleasure of seeing that in AKL airport on both my recent flights there.

2014-2015 Year of the Dreamliner!

Johnny Aussie · #**6866** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 11:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

2014-2015 Year of the Dreamliner!

Which seems to be extending into 2015-2016.

trofirhen · #**6867** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 1:15 PM**

double post

GeeCee · #**6868** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 1:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Which seems to be extending into 2015-2016.

Kind of like the Year of the Linux Desktop..

connect2source · #**6869** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 9:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

It'll be great to se the last of those KLM DC-10s at YVR

Those weren't DC-10's but MD-11's a much advanced and altered version of the previous model. KLM retired all their MD-11's in 2014 and were the world's last operator of the MD-11, hence no further passenger models are in operation.

So we're likely to see A330 and 777 metal until the 787s arrive.

trofirhen · #**6870** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by connect2source

Those weren't DC-10's but MD-11's a much advanced and altered version of the previous model. KLM retired all their MD-11's in 2014 and were the world's last operator of the MD-11, hence no further passenger models are in operation.

So we're likely to see A330 and 777 metal until the 787s arrive.

Thank you for correcting me on that. (The planes did sort of look similar to me, though, I have to admit)

thegx · #**6871** Posted **Jan 19, 2015, 4:04 AM**

Looks like YVR-ORD won't be returning this summer on WestJet. Service to Whitehorse is also dropping to 3/week.

Johnny Aussie · #**6872** Posted **Jan 19, 2015, 8:40 AM**

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Originally Posted by thegx

Looks like YVR-ORD won't be returning this summer on WestJet. Service to Whitehorse is also dropping to 3/week.

But there are plenty of routes seeing increases compared to last summer...

YYJ, YXT, YYZ, YQR, YXE, LAS are all seeing increases from what I can see so far.

Also, LAX pulling back to 2 daily only from 19 weekly. WS will be code sharing with both DL and AA on their two daily flights so WS selling 6 daily nonstops to LAX from YVR. So it looks like YVR-LAX continues to adjust to all the new capacity.

As its stands right now YVR-LAX will be 13 daily next summer (AC 5, WS 2, DL 2, AA 2, AS 1, UA 1)

Large Cat · #**6873** Posted **Jan 19, 2015, 7:57 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

KLM has earmarked YVR for the 787-900.

Perhaps as early as next year.

Nice!

Source is in Dutch.

http://www.luchtvaartnieuws.nl/nieuws/categorie/2/airlines/eerste-klm-787-9-vlucht-naar-bahrein

Speaking of the 787-900.... just booked a trip to YVR in the summer on UA... Doing the nonstop MEL-LAX and vv.

Done the 787-800 already... Time to try out the 787-9.

Hopefully Air NZ will add the 787-900 to YVR soon as well. Had the pleasure of seeing that in AKL airport on both my recent flights there.

That's excellent.

trofirhen · #**6874** Posted **Jan 19, 2015, 8:16 PM**

Now ... if we could just get those Lima and São Paulo routes up and running later this year .....

Johnny Aussie · #**6875** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 9:58 AM**

China Airlines to launch the A350-900XWB on the TPE-YVR route in 2016.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6290207/

This will probably be YVR's first A350 route.

craneSpotter · #**6876** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 8:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

China Airlines to launch the A350-900XWB on the TPE-YVR route in 2016.

http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/general_aviation/read.main/6290207/

This will probably be YVR's first A350 route.

Sweet!

Denscity · #**6877** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 9:29 PM**

So is a 350 basically a one storey 380 or is it bigger? How many seats in a 350? And it is a new plane I understand?

Klazu · #**6878** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 9:41 PM**

See wikipedia. It's a 787 and 777 competitor with three variants.

Denscity · #**6879** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 11:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

See wikipedia. It's a 787 and 777 competitor with three variants.

Ya I was on my phone on a Mexican beach when I posted that question. No access to a real computer to find the answer myself.

trofirhen · #**6880** Posted **Jan 20, 2015, 11:49 PM**

I notice that as of April, YYZ to Lima is becoming Air Canada Rouge.
Lima is the farthest West Of YYZ South America destinations, and closer to YVR than YYZ
I wonder if this might be an augur of thinks to come.
Hope so.
(although I notice TAM just added a GRU - YYZ run. This pretty much might choke Vancouver out, but Lima might be a start.)