Speech pattern and typographical variations across Canada - Page 69

Acajack · #**1361** Posted **Jan 15, 2015, 1:59 PM**

Local CBC Ottawa morning show host this morning said "ar-tic"!

Red alert!

SignalHillHiker · #**1362** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 9:38 PM**

Shared a comment on a radio show online chat with Ayreonaut. He's noticed.

manny_santos · #**1363** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 9:54 PM**

I've been travelling a lot lately, and one thing you really notice the further east you go in Ontario, the pronunciation of "poutine" becomes more and more French. In Ottawa and Cornwall you hear "pu-tinn", around Kingston you hear "pu-teen", and when you get to Toronto and London, you hear "poo-TEEN".

SignalHillHiker · #**1364** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 10:16 PM**

So, as I've mentioned before (with some amount of embarrassment), radio call-in shows are still huge in Newfoundland and Labrador. They are, by far, the most popular tool for civic engagement. Town halls, TV news, whatever else... doesn't come close. A majority of the province's population listens to at least one of the radio call-in shows daily. And it's the most common way for politicians to talk with people, etc. The most popular are Open Line, Back Talk, Night Line, and Cross Talk.

The latter is by CBC - which means its host has had vocal coaching and doesn't sound like a Newfoundlander. I don't usually do Cross Talk for this reason but I've got the radio on at work and it comes on in between Open Line and Back Talk so I occasionally turn over to it.

The Premier was calling in to announce his reduction of the number of seats in the House last week so I had to tune in. This is what CBC vocal coaching does to us.

Four accents in this clip. Old, lower-class St. John's (caller "Marjorie"), a Newfoundlander trying to speak properly (our Premier), the wilty English accent of Bell Island (caller 2), and Ramona the hostess with her voice training.

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kwoldtimer · #**1365** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 11:37 PM**

[QUOTE=manny_santos;6879053]I've been travelling a lot lately, and one thing you really notice the further east you go in Ontario, the pronunciation of "poutine" becomes more and more French. In Ottawa and Cornwall you hear "pu-tinn", around Kingston you hear "pu-teen", and when you get to Toronto and London, you hear "poo-TEEN".[/QUOTE]

Ironic.

kwoldtimer · #**1366** Posted **Jan 17, 2015, 11:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

So, as I've mentioned before (with some amount of embarrassment), radio call-in shows are still huge in Newfoundland and Labrador. They are, by far, the most popular tool for civic engagement. Town halls, TV news, whatever else... doesn't come close. A majority of the province's population listens to at least one of the radio call-in shows daily. And it's the most common way for politicians to talk with people, etc. The most popular are Open Line, Back Talk, Night Line, and Cross Talk.

The latter is by CBC - which means its host has had vocal coaching and doesn't sound like a Newfoundlander. I don't usually do Cross Talk for this reason but I've got the radio on at work and it comes on in between Open Line and Back Talk so I occasionally turn over to it.

The Premier was calling in to announce his reduction of the number of seats in the House last week so I had to tune in. This is what CBC vocal coaching does to us.

Four accents in this clip. Old, lower-class St. John's (caller "Marjorie"), a Newfoundlander trying to speak properly (our Premier), the wilty English accent of Bell Island (caller 2), and Ramona the hostess with her voice training.

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How wonderful is it that the first woman caller is named "Marjorie"? Classic!

SignalHillHiker · #**1367** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 4:07 PM**

An especially strong example of one of the accents in northern Ireland has gone viral online.

Reminds me of the "It's a mink! ****ing look at it!" video from here last winter.

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FrAnKs · #**1368** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 4:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

An especially strong example of one of the accents in northern Ireland has gone viral online.

Reminds me of the "It's a mink! ****ing look at it!" video from here last winter.

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Holy crap !

I don't understand a thing, except when he says ''well'' at the beginning !

'' Well, zo debalisho swetek gowanair weazemutch shoye inamatch zevetche oh! could yo one belong on froysch patch ! '' ahahah

Marty_Mcfly · #**1369** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 4:29 PM**

^I hate getting frost-butt

SignalHillHiker · #**1370** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 4:35 PM**

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'' Well, zo debalisho swetek gowanair weazemutch shoye inamatch zevetche oh! could yo one belong on froysch patch ! '' ahahah

"Well, the mallard says we have to go anyway, we hadn't much of a choice in the matter. But sure all the... Oh God, you wouldn't be long getting frostbit."

I'm wrong too, obviously, because mallard makes no sense.

But a little closer than you, I think.

FrAnKs · #**1371** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

"Well, the mallard says we have to go anyway, we hadn't much of a choice in the matter. But sure all the... Oh God, you wouldn't be long getting frostbit."

I'm wrong too, obviously, because mallard makes no sense.

But a little closer than you, I think.

Ahaha ! Now that I listen to it again it makes more sense but I'm still missing some words. That got to be one of the hardest English accent I've ever heard !

When he says ''Mallard'' he is talking about Ducks that are away because it's too cold !

In french we says ''Un froid de canard'' litarelly ''freezing cold''

http://s.hswstatic.com/gif/mallard-duck0-1.jpg

kwoldtimer · #**1372** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Marty_Mcfly

^I hate getting frost-butt

That's what I heard too!

kwoldtimer · #**1373** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

"Well, the mallard says we have to go anyway, we hadn't much of a choice in the matter. But sure all the... Oh God, you wouldn't be long getting frostbit."

I'm wrong too, obviously, because mallard makes no sense.

But a little closer than you, I think.

The "mother", perhaps?

SignalHillHiker · #**1374** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:11 PM**

Found that mink one from here it reminded me of.

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FrAnKs · #**1375** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:11 PM**

French accent vs Quebec accent.

This is ''Vivement Dimanche'' a well know talk show in France (even in Quebec)

They invited Louis José houde, a VERY popular humorist here in Quebec to talk about his new one man show in France.

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I bet you guys are able to notice the difference !

If one of you understand french, it's very funny XD

SignalHillHiker · #**1376** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:18 PM**

The only part I really got enough of to get the joke was the sex joke about breathing in the same air for eight hours, like being on a bus.

What was the word he used that they didn't understand and he had to choose another?

Also... I didn't know the French pronounced "women" that way. I thought he had said "son" - didn't get enough of the rest for context to tell me otherwise - until the Quebecois guy responded and it was about women.

Also, completely disagree with him that Montrealers are more calm than Parisiens. His interaction with the rest of the hosts is proof enough of the opposite, to me. He's like one of them on speed.

You can really hear the difference. It's sharper in Quebec, not as soft and romantic. I always interpret the Quebec accent as French being spoken to a child. No idea why. Something about the tone, how they speak... it mirrors some of the things we do when speaking to a small child, I think.

FrAnKs · #**1377** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

The only part I really got enough of to get the joke was the sex joke about breathing in the same air for eight hours, like being on a bus.

What was the word he used that they didn't understand and he had to choose another?

Also... I didn't know the French pronounced "women" that way. I thought he had said "son" - didn't get enough of the rest for context to tell me otherwise - until the Quebecois guy responded and it was about women.

Also, completely disagree with him that Montrealers are more calm than Parisiens. His interaction with the rest of the hosts is proof enough of the opposite, to me. He's like one of them on speed.

You can really hear the difference. It's sharper in Quebec, not as soft and romantic. I always interpret the Quebec accent as French being spoken to a child. No idea why. Something about the tone, how they speak... it mirrors some of the things we do when speaking to a small child, I think.

Ahah if you got one joke that's good enough because it's not your mother tongue

He had to choose another word? Excuse-me, but when ?

For women, the french guy said ''Filles''. That one is used to describe Young womens. I'm trying to figure out what they said aswell. Maybe ''Copine'' wich is ''girlfriend''

oh, don't take him as the perfect example of what are Montrealers. Louis-José is well know to be on speed and speak fast. You might be aswell surprised to know that he is from Quebec city

You are right on many things about the way we speak in Quebec.
First of all, France is the country where the language is coming from.
They know how to speak good and well. They also have more vocabulary than the Quebecois.
But today, we are coming alot closer in vocabulary than in the past. Wich provide us the possibility to speak kind of an ''international french'' that is understood by everyone.

In Quebec we speak from the Esophagus while in France it's up there in the Throat.
The Quebec language is also MAINLY coming from northern France.

Quebec is actually a VERY popular destination for French peoples. A good 150 000 of them are living here. 100 000 of them only in Montréal and it's growing quickly by almost 4000-5000 a year.
Around my flat there is French peoples everywhere and I hear that accent anytime.

Just speaking of France makes me want to come back there as soon as possible !!

Paris is sooo romantic !

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kwoldtimer · #**1378** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker

The only part I really got enough of to get the joke was the sex joke about breathing in the same air for eight hours, like being on a bus.

What was the word he used that they didn't understand and he had to choose another?

Also... I didn't know the French pronounced "women" that way. I thought he had said "son" - didn't get enough of the rest for context to tell me otherwise - until the Quebecois guy responded and it was about women.

Also, completely disagree with him that Montrealers are more calm than Parisiens. His interaction with the rest of the hosts is proof enough of the opposite, to me. He's like one of them on speed.

You can really hear the difference. It's sharper in Quebec, not as soft and romantic. I always interpret the Quebec accent as French being spoken to a child. No idea why. Something about the tone, how they speak... it mirrors some of the things we do when speaking to a small child, I think.

He was talking about "spooning". Apparently in Quebec, they use the same imagery as Anglos but in France they use a different expression.

FrAnKs · #**1379** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:48 PM**

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Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

He was talking about "spooning". Apparently in Quebec, they use the same imagery as Anglos but in France they use a different expression.

Oh you are right !

They are using ''Emboîter la copine'' in France.

SignalHillHiker · #**1380** Posted **Jan 18, 2015, 5:55 PM**

Most of the francophones here, especially in St-Pierre-et-Miquelon, are actually Basque in heritage. They're fully francophone and, in SPM, fully French - but their ethnic and cultural heritage is Basque.

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So francophone North Americans who are citizens of France pushing for an independent Basque country they love in their hearts. The world is fucking awesome.