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^ Interesting... thanks!
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Contemporary downtown Hull is
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>Originally Posted by J.OT13
>If you look at the original before after picture, you will see one building in common; the 4 storey stone building with a small tower in the middle. On the first picture, it is halfway cut off on the bottom, centre. On the second picture, it is directly to the left of Portage I (tallest tower in the centre) on Maisonneuve.

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The large church Notre-Dame-de-Grâce was to be spared, but was destroyed in a fire in 1971. Article on the fire (in French): http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/dossiers...eglise-notre-dame-disparait-en-fumee.php


~1962, Source Ottawa Citizen (?) via http://urbsite.blogspot.ca/2013/12/the-new-broom-hull-62.html


Sep 13 1971, Source ARCHIVES, LEDROIT via http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/dossiers...eglise-notre-dame-disparait-en-fumee.php
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>Originally Posted by J.OT13
>If you look at the original before after picture, you will see one building in common; the 4 storey stone building with a small tower in the middle. On the first picture, it is halfway cut off on the bottom, centre. On the second picture, it is directly to the left of Portage I (tallest tower in the centre) on Maisonneuve.



The large church Notre-Dame-de-Grâce was to be spared, but was destroyed in a fire in 1971. Article on the fire (in French): http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/dossiers...eglise-notre-dame-disparait-en-fumee.php


~1962, Source Ottawa Citizen (?) via http://urbsite.blogspot.ca/2013/12/the-new-broom-hull-62.html


Sep 13 1971, Source ARCHIVES, LEDROIT via http://www.lapresse.ca/le-droit/dossiers...eglise-notre-dame-disparait-en-fumee.php
That's too bad. The rectory is all that's left. They built a unremarkable 9 storey Four Points Hotel on the site of the church years later.
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I actually like Place du Portage III (I think, not 100% on the numbering/name; the corner building). A fair number of the others I'm not so sure about, but I like that one.
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I actually like Place du Portage III (I think, not 100% on the numbering/name; the corner building). A fair number of the others I'm not so sure about, but I like that one.
Best of the lot for sure.
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Charlottetown (prior to 1963)


https://www.flickr.com/photos/pei_museum/6941692779

View showing Market Building, Old Post Office, Provincial Building and Court House. The two buildings to the left of Province House were demolished to make way for the Confederation Centre.
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Confederation Centre, Charlottetown. God no!


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LeBreton Flats, Ottawa. Hopefully in 10-20 years, we will se an NHL arena and half a dozen 20-40 storey towers containing offices, condos and a hotel.

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^ That was quite a little village back in the day.
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^^Never seen that photo of the Flats before - awesome!

Development of this area seems about as slow as one could imagine. Can I assume this is yet another NCC issue?
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Why is Lebreton flats like that today ?
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It looks like what Hitler's architect would've designed for the same purpose.
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Old Posted Jan 12, 2015, 5:36 PM
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^^Never seen that photo of the Flats before - awesome!

Development of this area seems about as slow as one could imagine. Can I assume this is yet another NCC issue?
Yes, that is the NCC's doing. The whole place was expropriated and razed in the 1960s. A few plans came and went over the years such as a new National Defense Headquarters (ended up taking the purposely built Transport Canada building when it opened in 71'. Not sure why. In 72' Transport Canada consolidated in Place de Ville C instead).



Nothing happened at the Flats until the early 2000s when Chrétien approved the new War Museum, completed in 2005.

In the mid 2000s, the NCC held a "competition" for redevelopment east of Booth Street. The proponents had no say in the massing or materials. Of three finalists, the winner and runner up bailed because they could not work with the NCCs impossible demands giving the 3d place proposal rights to the land. A few if the most bland, uninspiring condo buildings are complete or under construction.

Anyway, since the Feds took away some of the NCCs mandates (capital events such as Canada Day and Winterlude) and the new CEO Mark Kristmanson came in, the NCC seems to be moving to a more open, transparent agency with a little less of the traditional "rule with an iron fist" type attitude. We also see a much better relationship between the Federal Agency and the City of Ottawa (though some disagreements persist such as the western extension of the Confederation Line).

That said, I'm hopeful that the current competition for the west of Booth will result in more visionary proposals, maybe even something we can all be proud of.
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"Slum" clearance.
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@J.OT13 - I was afraid of that. Sounds like some positive change happening, however.
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I love the 1928-1930 shot. Even without many tall buildings, that's still my favourite urban form in North America. It's especially impressive in NYC, of course - but it's the period when I feel most cities suited my preferences.
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A few from Vintage St. John's this week.

Water Street East. It's the King George VI Hotel on the right. In the background is what is today a line of parking garages for buildings on Duckworth Street one block to the left. Everything you see beyond the hotel, for the most part, was bulldozed and rebuilt after Confederation to straighten and widen the street.



And a few pictures from the edges (and consequently best parts) of the Central Slum, which was also bulldozed in the 1950s. I remember seeing pictures in school of what the side streets were like. There were some so narrow two people would have to turn sideways to pass. Ditches for raw sewage in the middle. Homes with cloth stuffed between the boards to keep out the cold. I wish I could find one of those but they don't seem to be on Vintage.

I'm not sad the buildings are gone, but I do wish we'd kept that street grid. It was the only part of the city with that truly unique feel.





That's this area today (the low side of the red box, where that parking lot is today, is where the first of the above photos was taken. The second was taken closer to where the pink tower is):

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