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Old Posted Sep 2, 2014, 7:30 PM
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Quite correct I think.
Yep. Rare are the times when Harper isn't pandering for votes.
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Yep. Rare are the times when Harper isn't pandering for votes.
Or in some cases, Giant Pandering!

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How actually does Harper have the power to say what is done with such a prime piece of real estate ??

I mean if he decided he wanted to build a 30m statue of himself on the lawn in front of Parliament.. could he?

One would think there would be a few checks and balances in the system.
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 10:43 AM
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Of course there are, this was a decisions of Cabinet, with funding approved by Parliament in the Budget Plan and specific departmental Estimates. You can debate the effectiveness of these processes, but there are structures in place, and many many people involved in these decisions at varying levels.
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Thanks McC... kind of figured that... but my above (slightly tongue-in-cheek) question still stands.

Is a majority government capable of driving decisions to place huge monuments in the Parliamentary Precinct?

People are constantly pinning this on "Harper"... what part (if any) of the machinery of govt would be capable of stopping this?
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Old Posted Sep 3, 2014, 11:55 AM
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This town is full of PM vanity projects:
Laurier gave developers a huge chunk of public park so they could build a hotel (and name it after him)
Trudeau demolished the historic printing bureau so that he could have lots of shiny glass in his vanity art gallery
Chrétien went vanity project crazy in his last year in office, although Martin cancelled all of them (federal courthouse, history museum, portrait gallery)
Pearson built a huge, brutalist arts centre on land designated for a public park
Mulroney built a giant, oversized peacekeeping monument
I'm not sure who built the national library or the pearson building, but those have vanity written all over them
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How actually does Harper have the power to say what is done with such a prime piece of real estate ??

I mean if he decided he wanted to build a 30m statue of himself on the lawn in front of Parliament.. could he?

One would think there would be a few checks and balances in the system.
It's become clear why the Harper Government has moved the commemorations portfolio from the NCC (which answers to Parliament) to the Canadian Heritage (which answers to the government of the day). The NCC had developed a commemorations policy a while back, with guidelines as to what kind of monuments go where. For example, there are supposed to be no war monuments on Parliament Hill, but the Harpercons insisted on the War of 1812 be placed by the East Block. It is a small example of how Harper has eroded or wiped out much of the institutions and the "checks and balances" that have been established over generations of democratic process. I can't wait for these goons to be turfed out next year.
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This town is full of PM vanity projects:
Laurier gave developers a huge chunk of public park so they could build a hotel (and name it after him)
Trudeau demolished the historic printing bureau so that he could have lots of shiny glass in his vanity art gallery
Chrétien went vanity project crazy in his last year in office, although Martin cancelled all of them (federal courthouse, history museum, portrait gallery)
Pearson built a huge, brutalist arts centre on land designated for a public park
Mulroney built a giant, oversized peacekeeping monument
I'm not sure who built the national library or the pearson building, but those have vanity written all over them
Not to mention Chretien's Grand Allee insanity.

This one, though, is much worse than all the others, because of how strongly political it is. All the ones you listed above, while certainly vanity projects, have a civic function and are politically neutral. This one is much, much, more partisan and political. It's rather embarrassing that such a McCarthy-esque thing will be built in the Canada of 2014.
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How actually does Harper have the power to say what is done with such a prime piece of real estate ??

I mean if he decided he wanted to build a 30m statue of himself on the lawn in front of Parliament.. could he?

One would think there would be a few checks and balances in the system.
There were.

There aren't any more. Hell, even the subject matter of Canada Post's stamps is vetted (or even ordered) by PMO now.
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Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 6:29 PM
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Winning design for victims of communism memorial features 100 million 'memory squares'

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: December 12, 2014, Last Updated: December 12, 2014 10:46 AM EST




The federal government has chosen a design by an international team as winner of the competition for a major new memorial on Wellington Street to victims of communism.

ABSTRAKT Studio Architecture, led by Toronto architect Voytek Gorczynski , was chosen from among six finalists for the new memorial, which bears the unwieldy official name Memorial to the Victims of Communism — Canada, a Land of Refuge. Janusz Kapusta and Andrzej Pawlik complete the winning team.

The memorial will be built on a prime 5,000-square-metre site along Confederation Boulevard between the Supreme Court of Canada and Library and Archives Canada. It will feature one hundred million fingertip-sized “memory squares,” each representing a life lost to Communist regimes worldwide.

The memory squares will be embedded in a series of ascending folded concrete rows, rising 14.5 metres at their highest point. Visitors will be able to walk among the rows and touch the memory squares to “viscerally experience the overwhelming scale of the Communist atrocities,” says the winning team’s statement of design intent.

At Thursday’s announcement, Kapusta referenced Josef Stalin’s infamous statement that “one death is a tragedy; one million is a statistic.”

“We set out in our design to visualize this statistic,” said Kapusta, whose brother was killed by authorities in Poland during martial law in 1983.

The memorial also features a central plaza, where an image of a victim of Communism — the details are yet to be worked out — will greet visitors.

“Suddenly, the abstract singular lost lives will be transformed into a documentary still image of communist atrocities,” Kapusta said. “Their lives will not be lost in vain; they will convey the historical truth of their suffering.”

The cost of the memorial is about $5.5 million, said Heritage Minister Shelly Glover, though that’s likely to change. “That’s the approximate now,” she said. “As we move forward, we’ll have a more final number.”

The government initially pledged $1.5 million to support the project. It has since doubled its financial contribution to $3 million and donated the land, valued at about $1 million.

The rest of the cost will be covered by Tribute to Liberty, the non-profit organization formed in 2008 to advocate for the memorial.

Though Tribute to Liberty claims on its website to have raised $2.5 million, the organization’s chair, Ludwik Klimkowski, said Thursday it actually has between $1.6 million and $1.7 million. Expenses, along with pledges made but not yet received, account for the difference, he said.

Asked if the government would further increase its contribution if Tribute to Liberty’s fundraising fall short, Glover replied: “We have committed $3 million.

“I have confidence in Tribute to Liberty,” she added. “There have been so many donors who have given, not only from their pockets, they’ve given from their heart.”

Jason Kenney, minister of employment and multiculturalism, said the memorial will be “a place of common memory” for Canadians. “This is who we are as Canadians. We do not forget the crimes of the past, but we look forward with hope.”

Klimkowski said the memorial will be “teachable ground for our children and grandchildren.” The winning design, he said, “puts Ottawa on the architectural, commemorative and historic map of global importance.”

According to the federal government, the memorial recognizes Canada’s role in offering refuge to millions who fled from communist regimes. About eight million Canadians trace their roots to countries that lived or still live under communism.

A design competition announced in May attracted 20 proposals. A jury reduced those to six finalists in June: Four Ontario-based teams and two international teams.

The winner of the design competition was supposed to be revealed in September, but political and bureaucratic delays pushed it back until Thursday. Despite that, Glover said the government aims to unveil the monument by fall of 2015 — just before the scheduled October federal election.

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Old Posted Dec 12, 2014, 6:33 PM
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...or the "National Don't Let The Liberals Construct A Building Here" Memorial, as I call it.
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My first reaction to the "million memory squares" was that they each commemorated a dollar wasted in this 'project'.
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I guess the P.E.T. Building proposal is dead and buried:


http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/features/2014/09/03/communist-monument/
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I guess the P.E.T. Building proposal is dead and buried:


http://www.cbc.ca/asithappens/features/2014/09/03/communist-monument/
But of course it does! If there was ever a thing to prevent a liberal named building from going in, this would be it! Am I right?
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Old Posted Dec 14, 2014, 4:23 AM
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Jury member goes public with criticism of victims of communism memorial site

Don Butler, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: December 13, 2014, Last Updated: December 13, 2014 10:25 PM EST


A prominent architect who was part of the jury that recommended the winning design for a major new Ottawa memorial to victims of communism says she has a “massive problem” with the chosen site and doubts the memorial can be built for anything close to its $5.5-million estimated cost.

Shirley Blumberg, a founding partner of KPMB Architects of Toronto and member of the Order of Canada, was part of the seven-member jury that evaluated six finalists for the new memorial last summer.

In an interview, Blumberg said her biggest concern is the “inappropriate” location chosen for the memorial — a 5,000-square-metre site on Wellington Street, between the Supreme Court of Canada and the Library and Public Archives building.

For decades, the site was reserved for a new building for the Federal Court of Canada or another national institution. But Public Works released the site in 2012 for the new memorial.

Blumberg doesn’t understand why a memorial to victims of communism was given such an “incredibly prominent, almost sacrosanct” site. “It is so centrally placed that it would seem to quite overshadow Canada’s true history.”

She doesn’t have any problem with the memorial going on another site, “but I have a massive problem, a huge problem, with this memorial going on that site. I think it completely misrepresents and skews what Canada is all about.”

Moreover, Blumberg believes there is “no way” the memorial can be built for its estimated price of $5.5 million.

“The way it is now, it’s at least two or three times that, with the technologies they are proposing for the concrete.

“The kind of architectural building technology they’re talking about is super-expensive, at the cutting edge, unaffordable and I don’t think would stand up to our climate.”

Last week, Heritage Minister Shelly Glover said $5.5 million is the “approximate” cost of the memorial, adding: “As we move forward, we’ll have a more final number.”

Another problem is the sheer bulk of the winning design, which features 100 million “memory squares” — each representing a life lost to communist regimes — embedded in parallel rows of concrete triangles, rising to 14.5 metres at their highest point.

The memorial will “completely dominate” nearby buildings, including the Supreme Court of Canada, “which should be on centre stage,” Blumberg said.

She also complained that the memorial is “euro-centric” and she was concerned the site would be understood as a graveyard by Asians.

“As I understand it, people of that background would be reluctant to bring their children here.”

Ludwik Klimkowski, also a jury member and chair of Tribute to Liberty — which lobbied for the memorial and is raising money to help pay for it — said the choice of the site “was actually well thought out,” capitalizing on the symbolic value of surrounding buildings.

Blumberg’s fear that the memorial will overshadow the Supreme Court is “less than logical and not consistent,” given her support for a building on the site, he said.

Klimkowski pointed out that Tribute to Liberty’s board includes people of Korean and Vietnamese descent. Neither they nor other Asian supporters of the project have raised any concerns about the chosen design being culturally inappropriate, he said.

Moreover, the memorial’s “Wall of Remembrance” will list the names of 1,000 victims of communism who found refuge on Canadian soil, with Asians listed alongside Europeans, Klimkowski said.

Visitors will be able to scan the wall with their smartphones and access an electronic record of the stories and testimonies of people from all countries who have fled communist regimes.

“We are really moving from a brick-and-mortar experience to a true reflection of what it means to be a Canadian who was either directly or indirectly damaged by communism,” he said.

Blumberg is the second prominent architect to complain about the memorial’s site. In September, Ottawa architect Barry Padolsky released an open letter to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, asking him to find a “more appropriate” site.

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The "National Victims of Communism Memorial"

Seriously?
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Ludwik Klimkowski, also a jury member and chair of Tribute to Liberty — which lobbied for the memorial and is raising money to help pay for it — said the choice of the site “was actually well thought out,” capitalizing on the symbolic value of surrounding buildings.

Blumberg’s fear that the memorial will overshadow the Supreme Court is “less than logical and not consistent,” given her support for a building on the site, he said.

Moreover, the memorial’s “Wall of Remembrance” will list the names of 1,000 victims of communism who found refuge on Canadian soil, with Asians listed alongside Europeans, Klimkowski said.

“We are really moving from a brick-and-mortar experience to a true reflection of what it means to be a Canadian who was either directly or indirectly damaged by communism,” he said.

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Um... So there's only 1000 people in Canada who were victims of Communism in Canada? I'm sure there are more people around the world who will be "commemorated" by this waste, but that number is so low it's ridiculous! It really doesn't deserve a memorial like this here.

And as if this person doesn't think a building dedicated by the man who brought us the Charter of Human Rights with similar design to the Parliamentary buildings should be on this prominent location beside the Supreme Court, when the "Victims" of Communism memorial is far less appropriate...
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Barry has used some pretty big words in his letter to Harper... I don't think Harper will understand what he's trying to say. I don't understand why we need this, just like we didn't need one for the 1812 War. Seems like Harper has cut tons of Feds their jobs just to fund these ridiculous monuments. When he gets knocked out of office next year, whoever gets in can cancel this idea. The design is quite horrendous also. I wouldn't take my kids to see it. There are much nicer things to see in this city. It'll stick out and it looks like it doesn't belong in that area. It completely clashes with the look and character of the street.
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I was in Prague this past summer. In a city that was under the influence of communism, their monument was not in a predominant district. It was an impressive monument, but by no means front and centre to the city.

It would appear here, somebody is just trying to fill in space without regard.
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Monumental mistake? Victims of Communism Memorial seems too vague to be poignant


Kelly Egan, Ottawa Citizen
Published on: December 16, 2014, Last Updated: December 16, 2014 5:36 PM EST




Monuments are bound to be divisive, but they should not cry out for mockery.

This is the deeper problem, I suspect, with the proposed Memorial to the Victims of Communism. While the location is suspect (agreed) and the size is eye-popping (a valid point), it is the very concept that lacks sharp definition.

The monument would pay tribute to 100 million victims of communist regimes, from Lenin to Mao, from Armenia to Cambodia to Cuba to Germany to Korea, Poland and Tibet and Vietnam (about 30 countries in all) and, obviously, spanning different eras and even centuries.

The death of one man is a tragedy, the deaths of a million are a statistic: so goes the quote attributed to Stalin, wrongly we’re told, and ironically. But the point is made. Can a well-intentioned individual possibly relate to this work of slanted concrete in a meaningful way? Say what you will about our National War Memorial (conceived after the First World War), but at least we were all talking about the same war.

(The first time I saw the war memorial as a child, I looked at the copper green figures around the wheeled artillery and asked my father, “Which one is Papa?” as his father had served in the First. The monument, even to a child, was obviously rooted in a time and place, in some great epic thing that hardened men had to sort out.)

We might study -isms, but we relate to people. In the newspaper this week, there is a death notice for a little girl named Amanda Zhi Ye Martin, who was born in 2005 and, sometimes, wore flowers in her dark hair, smiling. “In November 2005, Amanda was left by a roadside, found by a passerby and then taken to the Foshan Nanhai Social Welfare Institute, where she remained remained until she was 17 months old.”

She died on a Caribbean cruise, from an existing health condition, presumably with generous Canadian family members who had taken her in, given her a fighting chance at life. A victim of Communist China? I don’t know, but certainly a tragedy we can all relate to. In some form, she will have her own statue, as she should.

How will the monument to communism speak of the 100 million? With tiny squares, all identical. When the concept’s umbrella is this big, maybe it’s all you’re left with: lots and lots of raindrops, all the same.

It is a shame, too, that the legitimate argument that we should recognize the Canadian links to this ideologically inspired suffering — genocide, even — is being mixed up with side issues or just laughed at. (What about victims of capitalism, socialism, fascism, or even journalism, the wags have noted; -isms don’t kill people, maniacs kill people, etc, etc. …)

And, good grief, what of the National Capital Commission in this saga? When it comes to monuments in particular, it looks like a Crown corporation that spends its time “planning” until someone tells it what to do.

In September 2012, out of the blue, a massive semi-spherical monument was unveiled at the corner of the Sir John A. Macdonald Parkway — a road suddenly renamed, by the way — and Island Park Drive. Even while under construction, the federal government would not say what it was, as though a state secret.

And, behold, it was a monument to fallen diplomats around the world, in particular to the Turkish military attaché, Col. Atilla Altikat, who was gunned down only steps away in 1982.

We have lots of places to put new monuments in the capital. But as the feds noted in many planning documents, the so-called Parliamentary precinct is not actually that big. There is no expansion room on the east side and limited options to the west. This is probably the biggest empty site from the Hill to the Portage Bridge. Obviously, the Hill and its associated functions need to grow. It’s Canada. We plan on being here awhile.

So we’re left with the idea this is a critically important political statement, so urgent for Canada we need to juxtapose — on the capital’s main street — an anti-Communist slab with the Supreme Court: tyranny versus liberty, the gulag versus the rule of law, dictators versus democrats.

This, on our front door?

You know, this Hill gang goes long stretches when they ignore Ottawa, the city, then frantically monkey around with all the chess pieces (NAC, science museum, LeBreton, Wellington Street). Some days, you wonder which is worse.

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