Winnipeg | Canadian Museum for Human Rights

[blueandgoldguy]

Originally Posted by Cyro

I don't know if many here have taken their kids to the Children's Museum of late, but I find it similar in some ways to the discussion of what captures children's attention this generation.

It used to be quite interesting for kids and adults(big kids). Can't interact with the content like one used too. It's frankly quite boring after the re-model. More informational and lacking imagination, less for kids to get their hands on. Times have changed.

So why on earth did they change it? Are the people in charge that out of touch with what kids are interested in?

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by blueandgoldguy

So why on earth did they change it? Are the people in charge that out of touch with what kids are interested in?

I wish I could tell you. A relative who used to work at the Museum,(now a glorified playground, museum is the wrong word for this facility),used to be the communications director for them. I had a general idea what was happening. Grants/Subsidies were obviously received, new staff brought in changes made and you have what exists today. Streamlining the yearly budget, simplifying the operations could be at the top of the list.

Did they bring in Kids to see what appealed to them, highly unlikely.

[esquire]

Neat moment at the CMHR today as a young woman from Georgia who was profiled in an exhibit visited the museum:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...tm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Cyro

I wish I could tell you. A relative who used to work at the Museum,(now a glorified playground, museum is the wrong word for this facility),used to be the communications director for them. I had a general idea what was happening. Grants/Subsidies were obviously received, new staff brought in changes made and you have what exists today. Streamlining the yearly budget, simplifying the operations could be at the top of the list.

Did they bring in Kids to see what appealed to them, highly unlikely.

The children's museum was underwhelming from the get-go and short on content. My kids have grown up so I can't comment on the make-over.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by esquire

Neat moment at the CMHR today as a young woman from Georgia who was profiled in an exhibit visited the museum:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nati...tm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

This is a nice story, but Rosa Parks it is not. This is pretty underwhelming content, but that lines up with the museums missions of being just on the cusp of actually discussing human rights, but not so much that you actually develop any dialogue about it.

[cheswick]

Went for the first time to the Childrens musuem the other day. It was my work childrens Christmas party. My little one is a bit young to participate but from my perspective it looked a little underwhelming. The touch the universe at the manitoba musuem looks like itd be more fun

[Cyro]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

The children's museum was underwhelming from the get-go and short on content. My kids have grown up so I can't comment on the make-over.

I guess it would be hard to make a fair or valid comparison? You may feel it's worse, who knows.

[Cyro]

Nice little bump in tourism at this time of year.Great for the city.

CMHR attendance higher than expected

The museum, at its first general meeting held inside the facility, said 100,000 people have visited the museum since it opened for previews in September.

Of those, the CMHR says 57,360 paid admission or were at booked events, the restaurant, or gift shop while the remainder came to the opening ceremonies, public preview tours or other events.

The museum had projected annual visitation at 250,000 people or about 20,000 per month.

Visitors outside of the province accounted for 30 per cent of visitors in November and included people from China, El Salvador, Japan, Poland, and the United States.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/C...ed-285373611.html?cx_navSource=d-tiles-4

[Arts]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

This is a nice story, but Rosa Parks it is not. This is pretty underwhelming content, but that lines up with the museums missions of being just on the cusp of actually discussing human rights, but not so much that you actually develop any dialogue about it.

I disagree about the significance of what these students accomplished. Outside of the classroom, the white and black student community has essentially remained segregated even 40 years after "integration". Nobody has caused change for all this time, until finally a , dare I say brave, group of young students - particularly Mareshia Rucker decided to actually do something about it instead of just paying lip service like everyone has for all these decades.

I say bravo to her, and this content is about as "cutting edge" as you can get in terms of human rights, and for that I'm now actually interested in seeing an exhibit in this museum (and not just for the building architecture).

I also think her visit and the press it has gotten is going to promote visitors to Winnipeg from a vast segment of the US population.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by Arts

I disagree about the significance of what these students accomplished. Outside of the classroom, the white and black student community has essentially remained segregated even 40 years after "integration". Nobody has caused change for all this time, until finally a , dare I say brave, group of young students - particularly Mareshia Rucker decided to actually do something about it instead of just paying lip service like everyone has for all these decades.

I say bravo to her, and this content is about as "cutting edge" as you can get in terms of human rights, and for that I'm now actually interested in seeing an exhibit in this museum (and not just for the building architecture).

I also think her visit and the press it has gotten is going to promote visitors to Winnipeg from a vast segment of the US population.

I doubt it.

[Biff]

We were at the Forks yesterday and from my observations the Museum must have been having a pretty good day. There were huge crowds of people entering and exiting and parking was nearly impossible. Hopefully someone gets that parkade going because it seems like they could use it.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by Biff

We were at the Forks yesterday and from my observations the Museum must have been having a pretty good day. There were huge crowds of people entering and exiting and parking was nearly impossible. Hopefully someone gets that parkade going because it seems like they could use it.

I certainly hope the city isn't going to extrapolate some gate stats from the one time of year nearly nobody is working in an effort to justify building this museum a parkade.

[trebor204]

The Museum will be close for its Annual Maintenance from Jan 5 to the Jan 12th.

From the Museum (via their Facebook Page)

"Some maintenance cannot be completed overnight, or during the one 24-hour window available to us each week during the Monday closure. For example, if we adjust the humidity in our artifact cases, we typically need to wait 24-48 hours to ensure conditions remain constant before re-installing the artifacts. This is also an opportunity to review exhibit wear and tear after a period of intensive use. Our IT folks will also make the most of this time to perform large scale systems and software maintenance."

[rrskylar]

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/01/11/cmhr-promotes-cultural-inequality-with-free-entrance-policy

If anyone else doesn't find this shocking I don't know what to say!

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

http://www.winnipegsun.com/2015/01/11/cmhr-promotes-cultural-inequality-with-free-entrance-policy

If anyone else doesn't find this shocking I don't know what to say!

It's an expression of white guilt, it's not exactly shocking.

I'd be more shocked if they hadn't gone out of their way to try and reconcile the original complaints the aboriginal community had in some capacity. This seems like a reasonably cost-effective token gesture.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

It's an expression of white guilt, it's not exactly shocking.

I'd be more shocked if they hadn't gone out of their way to try and reconcile the original complaints the aboriginal community had in some capacity. This seems like a reasonably cost-effective token gesture.

So at what point do we say enough is enough, the First Nations/Metis population is pushing 20%, do we wait until that population hits 30 or 40% before everyone gets treated equally in this province. And if it is ''white guilt'' as you call it why should a Black Canadian or Asian Canadian be charged admission either or do we go a step further and break it down to white ethnicity, maybe Ukrainian Canadians don't pay but Scottish Canadians pay or maybe just those with an English background....

[Wigglez]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

So at what point do we say enough is enough, the First Nations/Metis population is pushing 20%, do we wait until that population hits 30 or 40% before everyone gets treated equally in this province. And if it is ''white guilt'' as you call it why should a Black Canadian or Asian Canadian be charged admission either.

Equality is racist, remember

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Wigglez

Equality is racist, remember

I'll never forget what former Grand Chief Ovide Mercredi said in calling Stephen Harper racist: because Harper said all Canadian's should be treated equally.

Sometimes being treated equally just isn't good enough for some!

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

So at what point do we say enough is enough, the First Nations/Metis population is pushing 20%, do we wait until that population hits 30 or 40% before everyone gets treated equally in this province. And if it is ''white guilt'' as you call it why should a Black Canadian or Asian Canadian be charged admission either or do we go a step further and break it down to white ethnicity, maybe Ukrainian Canadians don't pay but Scottish Canadians pay or maybe just those with an English background....

I just think this is the wrong hill to die on. It isn't as if the Feds aren't already underwriting all the operating costs for this thing. You'd may as well let them try to appear as if they care about the plight...

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

I just think this is the wrong hill to die on. It isn't as if the Feds aren't already underwriting all the operating costs for this thing. You'd may as well let them try to appear as if they care about the plight...

Free admissions based on race, ethnicity or whatever is a slippery slope and as a publicly funded national museum I can't believe someone would sign off on that.