DENVER | Main Development Thread #6 - Page 105

Cirrus · #**2081** Posted **Dec 5, 2014, 4:53 PM**

In Boulder's defense, a bunch of monotonous single use buildings are not going to be good urbanism.

Of course, that's Boulder's fault. If they had sensible zoning, Google could build a single 10 story building downtown, where ground-floor retail would make sense. But Boulder doesn't want that.

TakeFive · #**2082** Posted **Dec 5, 2014, 5:17 PM**

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The world really would be better off without Boulder. The one advantage of Udall losing is less Boulder influence on Colorado. They are terrible people; worse even than the rednecks Gardner represents.

I dunno; I'd say it's a tossup.

Set aside the talking points and Cory seemed like a likeable, impressive guy. But then a rock would have been better than Marilyn Musgrave from that district. Udall made me feel "at home" for having a campaign that made no sense and had no appeal. Down here that will fly as most just check the "R" box. Give a rock a name and say it's a Republican and it would win a seat in the legislature.

enjo13 · #**2083** Posted **Dec 5, 2014, 5:22 PM**

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Mother f**kin' Boulder. It's asinine some of the stipulations they want to put on what would be a major employment center. Denver should be calling Google right now and Hancock should be offering sexual favors to the entire Google workforce to get a Denver Google office set up. I'll take a 12-story brick DT with an EIFS facade and 1,500 Google employees any day.

Boulder has an amazing marketing machine behind it. Denver is getting better at this (thank you CTA), but basically anyone in the Valley still automatically associates "Colorado Technology" 100% with Boulder. I'm honestly not sure if Denver proper is even on Googles radar.

TakeFive · #**2084** Posted **Dec 5, 2014, 9:04 PM**

Just one of the things you can find in Globeville

Elk anyone?
http://frontierenaturalmeats.com/

Who Knew?

TakeFive · #**2085** Posted **Dec 5, 2014, 9:53 PM**

Thinking of a future in Aeronautics? Think MSU Denver.

confluence-Denver.com

According to an article by Margaret Jackson in Confluence Denver:

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The $60 million project is expected to break ground next fall and open in the spring of 2017.

"MSU Denver's Aerospace and Engineering Sciences initiative will directly address one of the biggest workforce challenges in Colorado: how to better create a pipeline of highly skilled graduates to meet the specific needs of Colorado industries," says Stephen Jordan, the university's president.

Additionally, in an article by Caitlin Hendee in the DBJ, MSU Denver was one of 123 schools named to a list of "STEM Jobs Approved Colleges list."

TakeFive · #**2086** Posted **Dec 7, 2014, 6:51 PM**

Taking a peek at "over there"

North Carolina has been experiencing Texas-sized growth, especially Charlotte.
There's THIS by Jen Wilson in the CBJ:
"Boomtown: Charlotte among fastest-growing big cities in U.S., new Census info shows"
Also one of Charlotte's more prominent office towers was sold over the summer. Will Boye covers this HERE.

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When the building hit the market in June, even Gildea was taken aback by the feeding frenzy that ensued.

Fifth Third Center ultimately sold to Cousins Properties for $215 million in August, a record $308 per square foot.

Thinking of Denver it's hard to imagine why Hines wouldn't go ahead with 1144 15th Street unless fracking concerns give them temporary indigestion.

With the Holidays ahead Denver reminds me of an old fav.

.....

courtesy of penguin.com

BG918 · #**2087** Posted **Dec 7, 2014, 7:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Mother f**kin' Boulder. It's asinine some of the stipulations they want to put on what would be a major employment center. Denver should be calling Google right now and Hancock should be offering sexual favors to the entire Google workforce to get a Denver Google office set up. I'll take a 12-story brick DT with an EIFS facade and 1,500 Google employees any day.

I kind of thought something in the Union Station would be well suited for a big Google expansion in the metro, keeping a smaller office in Boulder. That's how it seems to be for a lot of other tech companies but I guess not with Google. That's great news for the area though.

I was Cherry Creek this morning and noticed demolition of the old post office is well underway. Hopefully that means we'll see the hotel at 245 Columbine begin rising in a couple months.

RyanD · #**2088** Posted **Dec 8, 2014, 12:17 AM**

Here's some train porn. Not everyday pre-2016 you see TWO trains parked under the canopy...

IMG_8092 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

IMG_8096 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

IMG_8098 by RyanDravitz, on Flickr

DenverPoke · #**2089** Posted **Dec 8, 2014, 1:42 AM**

^^^

Charlotte does have some nice things going on, but Denver is on another level. Charlotte is to Denver as Denver is to Seattle. I see no reason why Hines won't be moving forward with 1144 15th, it's been spec all along so I don't think it's being driven by energy prices. The Denver economy has become much more diverse than that.

TakeFive · #**2090** Posted **Dec 8, 2014, 5:04 AM**

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Here's some train porn. Not everyday pre-2016 you see TWO trains parked under the canopy...

Really nifty train porn.

seventwenty · #**2091** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 3:03 AM**

Denver council OKs subsidy plans

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The Denver City Council gave key approval Monday night to plans setting the stage for a $47.9 million tax-based city subsidy for redevelopment of the former University of Colorado Health Sciences Center.

Continuum Partners plans a $419 million project with apartments, for-sale housing, office space and retail on the 26-acre property at East Ninth Avenue and Colorado Boulevard. Previous developers' plans have faltered amid difficult market conditions and neighborhood opposition, but Continuum has attracted wide support.

The subsidy will come in the form of a tax-increment financing (TIF) plan in which the Denver Urban Renewal Authority issues bonds to be repaid by sales and property taxes generated by the development.

The council approved a trio of related proposals 11-0, with member Jeanne Faatz, a frequent critic of TIF subsidies, applauding this one.

comoneymaker · #**2092** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 6:11 AM**

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Denver council OKs subsidy plans

Well what the hell kind of cheap match stick apartment buildings are going in right across from the VA in a huge chunk of land? How did this go forward?

seventwenty · #**2093** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 7:47 AM**

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Well what the hell kind of cheap match stick apartment buildings are going in right across from the VA in a huge chunk of land? How did this go forward?

The Legend of CU Med: A Link to the Past

Scottk · #**2094** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 6:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

Mother f**kin' Boulder. It's asinine some of the stipulations they want to put on what would be a major employment center. Denver should be calling Google right now and Hancock should be offering sexual favors to the entire Google workforce to get a Denver Google office set up. I'll take a 12-story brick DT with an EIFS facade and 1,500 Google employees any day.

Oh, boo hoo.

Boulder gets something that Denver wants so everyone on this board starts bitching about boulder. Color me surprised.

Face it, it makes perfect sense that google would want to be in Boulder. Boulder is a national hub for tech startups, Denver is not. Boulder is at the foot of the majestic flatirons, Denver is not. It makes perfect sense that google would want to locate somewhere scenic with a high concentration of other tech companies, and the highest quality of life on the colorado front range.

EngiNerd · #**2095** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 6:29 PM**

I don't know what you read, but nobody on here was questioning Google going to Boulder, that part makes sense based on the demographic that typically works for Google. What is being questioned is why the City was making things so difficult on Google's plans to expand, with the city acting like Google is planning on placing a 30 story building in the middle of Boulder and one council member even going so far to say that this will displace more middle income people from Boulder, which just about the most asinine thing I have ever heard. Google wanting to expand is nothing but a good thing for Boulder, but yet they still setup roadblocks to their expansion, because its Boulder.

Brainpathology · #**2096** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 6:35 PM**

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one council member even going so far to say that this will displace more middle income people from Boulder, which just about the most asinine thing I have ever heard.

At least SOMEONE is standing up for that one family.

bunt_q · #**2097** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 7:20 PM**

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and the highest quality of life on the colorado front range.

If you're rich... if you're not, hope your definition of "quality of life" includes roommates. And white... you do remember that not everybody in America is white, right? I know it's probably been a while since you've seen somebody who wasn't. But there are bike lanes.

wong21fr · #**2098** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scottk

Oh, boo hoo.

Boulder gets something that Denver wants so everyone on this board starts bitching about boulder. Color me surprised.

Face it, it makes perfect sense that google would want to be in Boulder. Boulder is a national hub for tech startups, Denver is not. Boulder is at the foot of the majestic flatirons, Denver is not. It makes perfect sense that google would want to locate somewhere scenic with a high concentration of other tech companies, and the highest quality of life on the colorado front range.

I'm bitching about Boulder making it too difficult, irrationally difficult, for a major tech corporation to establish a campus in Boulder. Given the economic engine such a campus can become, any rational municipality would be far more accommodating to said company's needs. But not Boulder. Instead, the city council is complaining about such a campus being too tall at four stories and displacing middle income families.

Yeesh. The reading comprehension of CU graduates has really gone down the toilet.

enjo13 · #**2099** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 7:43 PM**

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and the highest quality of life on the colorado front range.

Oh really?

EngiNerd · #**2100** Posted **Dec 9, 2014, 8:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by wong21fr

I'm bitching about Boulder making it too difficult, irrationally difficult, for a major tech corporation to establish a campus in Boulder. Given the economic engine such a campus can become, any rational municipality would be far more accommodating to said company's needs. But not Boulder. Instead, the city council is complaining about such a campus being too tall at four stories and displacing middle income families.

Yeesh. The reading comprehension of CU graduates has really gone down the toilet.

Don't forget that it had to have ground floor retail too...and they are also being told to incentivize the use of alternate transportation, how does a city have that much control to do that?

Heck Google is even willing to place their parking completely below grade with no questions asked, that stuff isn't cheap, and probably not required, but they are doing it anyway. Boulder should be bending over backwards for these guys, but instead they have the make the process really shitty for them, way to go Boulder, we should all bow to your greatness!

The nearby Whole Foods is supposed to be so progressive, yet they were able to put in a huge parking lot, but Google has to put in ground floor retail?