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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 7:17 AM
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I was in Phoenix this weekend and noticed the "new" lighting feature at the top of the United Healthcare building. How long has it been lit? I don't remember it (or any buildings) being lit up before I moved. It has a nice revolving rainbow color scheme all around the top. Was also very impressed with the activity around cityscape and how pretty downtown looked with all the lights.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 4:09 PM
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Construction has been going on in the old Lola coffee spot next to hulas. Tomecak design is the architect but I can't find what the future use is. Anyone have a clue on this?
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 4:43 PM
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I was in Phoenix this weekend and noticed the "new" lighting feature at the top of the United Healthcare building. How long has it been lit? I don't remember it (or any buildings) being lit up before I moved. It has a nice revolving rainbow color scheme all around the top.
I noticed that just this weekend. I am usually down there once a week and night and this is the first time I noticed. Looks very cool, it would be nice to have a feature like that on top of the proposed Central Station apartments.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 4:57 PM
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Speaking recently of the Biltmore area, this is good news:
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/news/2014/11/25/esplanade-development-in-phoenix-to-get-10m.html

The Esplanade retail has always been totally cut off from the street and cut off any energy from the Biltmore across the tunnel. It'll be nice to see it opened up - too bad other developments, like AZ Center, can't get the same hint.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 5:49 PM
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Some small news tidbits: According to an article I've read from the owners of Songbird, the GreenHaus plans to be demolished for housing and a restaurant will move into the Dressing Room space.
We probably read the same blog post from the owners of Songbird, but they also mentioned they'll be moving to somewhere in Coronado after their lease is up. They wouldn't give specifics of where in Coronado. There are a couple old houses they could convert into restaurant space along 7th Street (to go with the others like The Main Ingredient, Rice Paper, Americas, Green/nami, etc.). I wonder if it will be something like that.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 6:29 PM
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We probably read the same blog post from the owners of Songbird, but they also mentioned they'll be moving to somewhere in Coronado after their lease is up. They wouldn't give specifics of where in Coronado. There are a couple old houses they could convert into restaurant space along 7th Street (to go with the others like The Main Ingredient, Rice Paper, Americas, Green/nami, etc.). I wonder if it will be something like that.
The story on the relocation seems to change from day to day, but I've read nothing that would suggest Coronado is the new location. In fact, there's a Facebook comment from the owner that says "Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. I do have some really great news for Coronado when the time is right to announce it though." In light of all this vaguebooking, I'll just wait and see what happens.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 8:13 PM
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The story on the relocation seems to change from day to day, but I've read nothing that would suggest Coronado is the new location. In fact, there's a Facebook comment from the owner that says "Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. I do have some really great news for Coronado when the time is right to announce it though." In light of all this vaguebooking, I'll just wait and see what happens.
So you're saying it's something completely different for Coronado that they are referring to? That's exactly what I read and I guess I took it as they're moving to Coronado.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 8:19 PM
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So you're saying it's something completely different for Coronado that they are referring to? That's exactly what I read and I guess I took it as they're moving to Coronado.
That seems to be what the comment says, but at this point I've really given up on understanding what the future of Songbird is.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 9:01 PM
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I really hope the news of a housing development on 3rd/Roosevelt is true, because Roosevelt is starting to turn into a wasteland. The Artisan live/work units aren't completely filled, there's several vacant lots, the 1/2 empty Canvas Building, 100% empty Roosevelt Pointe, and soon to be empty Scientology, Greenhaus and Songbird buildings. Yikes. Beating a dead horse, but those 20' sidewalks are going to be mighty empty. There desperately needs to be some redevelopment and housing built in that area ASAP.

BTW, America's Taco Shop on 7th closed ^.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 9:56 PM
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100% empty Roosevelt Pointe
I assume you mean the ground floor retail rather than the apartments, many of which are occupied? That's not surprising given how much vacant ground floor retail there is all over, yet you still insist on more ground floor retail in new projects.

Also, the Dressing Room restaurant is coming next spring to the small building east of Songbird, Lux Commonwealth & Country is scheduled to follow later in 2015, the DeSoto Central Market is making steady progress, and Paz Taqueria & Cantina has already filled the space vacated by the Local. Win some, lose some along Roosevelt.

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Old Posted Dec 1, 2014, 10:26 PM
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BTW, America's Taco Shop on 7th closed ^.
7th Avenue, not 7th Street. That one in Coronado is still open (the original one I think). I'm surprised they expanded so quickly, not a surprise that at least one is closing.
     
     
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The one on 7th street has gotten some funky hours lately. I'm hoping it stays open!
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 3:13 PM
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I assume you mean the ground floor retail rather than the apartments, many of which are occupied? That's not surprising given how much vacant ground floor retail there is all over, yet you still insist on more ground floor retail in new projects.

Also, the Dressing Room restaurant is coming next spring to the small building east of Songbird, Lux Commonwealth & Country is scheduled to follow later in 2015, the DeSoto Central Market is making steady progress, and Paz Taqueria & Cantina has already filled the space vacated by the Local. Win some, lose some along Roosevelt.
Thanks for the updates on the new places - that's good news; and yes, I meant just the retail portion of Roosevelt Pointe.

I don't insist on ground level retail in ALL projects; there are plenty of places were 1-use is fine. But, yes in certain areas, like Roosevelt, I think retail is an essential component for the long-term needs of the community. It's the only area with the opportunity to become a mixed use neighborhood downtown and will be surrounded by dead zones because of the 1-use buildings being built on the ASU and Biomedical campuses. I won't go into it anymore.. if you disagree, you disagree.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 5:16 PM
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Hopefully something great becomes of this...

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Large Downtown Site Inspires Thoughtful Development Process

If you’ve been to The Fillmore Vig or Cibo, you’ve probably noticed the giant chunk of empty land south of Fillmore between 6th Ave. and 4th Ave. This expansive 7.5 acres is the former site of the Thomas J. Pappas School, which was closed in 2008, and is about to become largest downtown parcel to come available since the Arizona Center was built in 1990.

Most of the site is owned by the City of Phoenix, while a small portion is owned by Maricopa County. Over the last several months property owners and community leadership have begun to examine the site and create a vision for this part of South Roosevelt that would make this site a huge catalyst for that part of the neighborhood; that plays off of and responds to the Urban Form Code, which emphasizes the pedestrian-friendly, urban design we have to have here in downtown; and that truly responds to the desires of the community surrounding the site and the greater downtown.

To get a better understanding of this process, we spoke with Dan Klocke, Vice-President of Economic Development with Downtown Phoenix, Inc. ” The whole idea is not just to throw out an RFP for the largest piece of land in downtown, the idea is to be thoughtful, to work through what could happen….,” said Klocke. “We want to make sure that it’s true urban development that stimulates more activity in the west side of downtown, that it (the RFP) takes full advantage of having this size of parcel…to leverage as much as possible.” Klocke points out that with a parcel this size it is critically important to “make sure it’s economically viable, so the development community says ‘yes this is a really good opportunity and it makes a lot of sense’ and that the community says, ‘this is going to be a great urban development for our neighborhood.’”

The process to get the RFP right began with conversations with the property owners in June and July. Then the city hired Ayers Saint Gross, a national planning company with a lot of combined experience building projects in downtown to look at conceptually how this could lay out, and how to make it meet the economic reality of urban construction. “These are folks that get urban and that’s why we picked them. They understand the Urban Form Code, and they get what its intent is,” said Klocke. “They know how to structure the elements of the RFP so that it works both from an urban design perspective, and from a developers’ perspective.”

In addition to Ayers Saint Gross, the city hired Belfiore Real Estate Consulting, a market research firm, to assess what’s doable: What’s the market in downtown? How does that match up with construction costs that they’re looking at for these conceptual plans? Klocke emphasized that the concepts being created are not what will get built, they are simply there to show what’s possible. “It’s more of an exercise to show that it can happen, and that it can be good and urban,” said Klocke. “These concepts will be part of the eventual RFP,” he continued. “So the developers can see that A) a lot of work had been put into this and, B) the principles of what we expect to happen there are laid out in both words and drawings.” Some of these principles include stated density levels, an east-west thoroughfare to break up the super blocks between Fillmore and Van Buren, and better circulation in the neighborhood, which will allow people to cut across this part of downtown.

The next stages of the process are that the city and the county have to get together and make sure that everyone is on the same page. When you put out an RFP it’s much easier when you’re dealing with one entity, such as the city. Additionally, the county can’t sell property, unless it’s at auction, or unless it’s to a municipality, and the city has both the wherewithal and experience to do it. To simplify the RFP process, the Phoenix Industrial Development Authority (Phoenix IDA) is looking to purchase the county piece. On Wednesday, December 3, the Downtown, Aviation and Redevelopment Subcommittee will be asked to give its approval that the Phoenix IDA can purchase this property, then it will go to the full council for a vote. Once that decision has been made there are several steps until the final RFP is released in February.

“Before the final RFP goes to the city council for approval,” said Klocke, “we’re going to go out to the communities and show them what we’ve been working on, and get their feedback. There will be a lot of bites at this apple over the next few months, where people can give their feedback.”

If You Go:

What: Downtown, Aviation, and Redevelopment Subcommittee Meeting
When: 10 am
Where: Phoenix City Hall, 200 W. Washington St.

Jill Bernstein December 1st, 2014


http://www.downtownphoenixjournal.com/2014/12/01/large-site-downtown-inspires-thoughtful-process/
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 5:23 PM
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Dearth of shovel-ready development hurts Phoenix rebound, business attraction

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 5:38 PM
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^^ (To Aeromero83's post) I was literally posting this, buuuuut you beat me to it. I especially like that they're thinking (yes, they're actually putting some thought into this and not selling it to the cheapest bidder) about reconnecting the streets so the lot sizes are less imposing. Maybe something ala USA Place, with the taller buildings and shops towards Van Buren and stepped back as you reach Fillmore so it's 3-4 story brownstones built up to the street with a small dive bar or patio bistro.

Cibo's is my favorite pizza place downtown, let's get some urban designed housing in here; more people deserve to enjoy this gem.
     
     
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I've long dreamed about the possibilities for those two lots.

But knowing phoenix, I imagine the CED team is going to play Crappy Development Roulette and approve something that has some combination of single family homes, 4 stories of apartments, an eight story parking garage, a surface lot, and/or an inwardly focused retail plaza.

RFPing those lots in such a down economy is probably a bad idea anyways.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 10:18 PM
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Two apartments site plan reviews on the City of Phoenix Public Meeting Notices for today:

Linear Apartments
998 N. 3rd St.

Illuminate Apartments
1002 N. 3rd St.

     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 10:28 PM
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I called to get site plans, but couldn't as the plans are sealed, however the planner was able to give me the following details:

Both structures are 70' in height, with 104 units/63.3 du/acre on the SWC and 111 units/82.2 du/acre on the NWC of 3rd and Roosevelt.

No ground-floor retail in either. Sucks that Millbrae, California or Bethesda, Maryland gets better developments than downtown Phoenix these days.
     
     
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Old Posted Dec 2, 2014, 10:50 PM
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What is the NWC of 3rd St and Roosevelt?

Is the old Scientology Building coming down? Maybe I missed something.
     
     
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