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Old Posted Nov 28, 2014, 9:33 PM
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Not a pretty picture for the budgets of many Middle Eastern and Central Asian countries, either.
     
     
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I haven't really followed the industry since May but I used to follow 20-30 different fracking drillers to some degree. The issue is the heavy front end investments needed on the way to ramping up production. Depending on how long this goes on it will cause a lot of chaos and dislocation but how much is hard to predict. I'd assume lenders will remain patient as long as they can. What are their options?

For OPEC lower prices hurt the weaker sisters more, like Venezuela. It should give a shot in the arm to the global economy which then would increase the demand for oil - in time. More interesting will be the next OPEC meeting in six months. Some question how much OPEC can even influence crude prices at this point?
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Old Posted Nov 29, 2014, 3:13 AM
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OPEC only accounts nowadays for.... what, 30 percent of global oil production? I don't think the cartel has much influence over the global oil markets anymore.

I think this drop in oil prices is very interesting.... we may be seeing a lot of 21st century ghost towns in North Dakota / South Dakota very soon.

What I also find very interesting is how this global collapse in oil will hurt the Russian economy - almost like the US and The Saudis planned this.

Unless Saudi Arabia wants this collapse to occur to destroy the fracking boom seen across America recently
     
     
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2014, 2:27 AM
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You can't make this stuff up!

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Thanks to randomfunnypicture.com

Does Denver need to pass legislation that would prevent bike and pedestrian tolls?
Or is it a good way to raise money? (and according to bunt_q it's NOT a tax, it's merely a use fee)

THE STORY.
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2014, 4:08 AM
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No Goliaths in Denver

Amazing Amazon
Take Seattle for example: "Amazon will have enough space for 71,500 employees in Seattle by 2019" according to an article by Marc Stiles in the Puget Sound Business Journal.
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Here's the key factor behind downtown Seattle's commercial real estate boom: Amazon.com plans to have 10 million square feet of office space in and around the city core within five years.

That would make Amazon the largest employer in Seattle and one of the largest private employers in the state. Boeing, by comparison, has 81,919 Puget Sound-area employees.
No wonder proposals and groundbreaking for 30-40 story residential towers are occurring. Currently Amazon is under construction on a 4-block site for over 4 million square feet.

Interesting question: How many parking spaces do you need for 71,500 employees?
From the above linked article:
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Ten million square feet would be enough space for around 71,500 employees based on the ever-shrinking amount of space that tech companies set aside per worker. It's currently around 140 square feet per employee.
The employee numbers here are speculative. The figure of 140 square feet per employee is down from a more commonly quoted (tech) figure of 250 square feet which is down from the (dated) traditional figure of 500 square feet (or more) per employee.

It's hardly surprising or unreasonable that developers would include more parking spaces than many urbanists would deem necessary, No?
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Old Posted Nov 30, 2014, 5:13 AM
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Thanks to tmcnet.com

The Middle Class Burden
It may be stating the obvious but if you've not considered it.... the strategy for those states that have joined the "Race to the Bottom" to lower taxes and become more "business friendly" and affordable is fairly simple. If you can attract new business to your area then employees will follow. The resulting growth will result in more people paying the various taxes whatever each state's tax structure may be. Invariably that means depending on the middle class to meet increasing tax needs.

On the "better" side of the tracks
Some places are a blessed to be "Gateway Cities" or have organic companies like Amazon to power growth and vitality. No need to grovel for these places.

Can Denver be a successful "Hybrid" model?
It would seem so. The much noted appeal to Millennials is a key. Certainly this also goes to Denver's well regarded quality of life. Many companies want to locate where the prospects of finding good employees are better.

Regarding affordability and living costs I assume this will work itself out over time. While the overall quality of downtown residential construction seems solid, there hasn't been much "top shelf" construction. I assume it's just a matter of time for more supply to come on line as well as the aging of properties over time (as Cirrus would suggest).
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I think it could be the area I circled on this picture:



This is a couple years old so the new plan may be to reroute Arkins Ct even further away from the river.
So the buildings being torn down ARE at 3101-3301 Brighton Blvd. I was over there yesterday and theyve torn down quite a bit already.
     
     
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So the buildings being torn down ARE at 3101-3301 Brighton Blvd. I was over there yesterday and theyve torn down quite a bit already.
So all that nice blond brick is being demolished.

I guess the market can only support so many warehouses turned co-working office space. As the riverfront is redeveloped I imagine the rest of the available land north of Brighton will become high density residential.

Thanks for the update.

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That rendering is hilarious. Are those supposed to be ducks? Because the notion of 10+ boats leisurely floating the Platte is laughable.
     
     
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That rendering is hilarious. Are those supposed to be ducks? Because the notion of 10+ boats leisurely floating the Platte is laughable.
While they are not quite distinguishable as boats even when zoomed in to the original pdf, that probably is the intent. One of the Greenway Foundation's stated goals is to increase the recreational use of the river including increased rafting and kayaking.

Maybe the rendering is depicting their annual river festival when there are several dozen craft on the river at any one time Confluence park, just up stream, is home to the worlds first urban white water park which is also slated to be rebuilt. There has been talk of renting rafts and kayaks all summer.

P.S. There was briefly a paddleboat that traveled from the Denver to Brighton.

Here is an excerpt from an article at coloradogambler.com about John Brisben Walker:
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Walker also purchased 500 lots in the Platte Valley for Denver’s first amusement park. In the wake of massive publicity, River Front Park opened to a crowd of more than 20,000 in 1887, a spectacular addition to Denver’s social scene. The new amusement park attracted thousands of city folk in search of summer thrills, featuring a racetrack, medieval castle, grandstand, baseball park, toboggan slide and even riverboat rides. Buildings included an exhibition hall and a grandstand capable of handling 5,000 spectators, where he staged Denver’s first rodeo.

River Front soon became home base for Denver’s beloved baseball team, the Mountaineers. Games were played at a bandstand on Colfax Avenue, first created for special concerts by the Great Gilmore and his 55-piece band. Walker’s horse cars drove guests directly to the park entrance and returned spectators home at the end of the performance. The carriages were color-coded for those who couldn’t read.

Walker held baseball games and concerts at a grandstand on Colfax Avenue and Broadway, next to Denver first fire station.


In 1887, Walker introduced another unique feature to landlocked Denver, a side wheel paddler that sailed to Brighton and back for 50 cents. When the South Platte proved too shallow for efficient navigation, the river was dammed at 19th St. to form a lake that extended back to 15th Street. One year, the paddler was converted into the H.M.S. Pinafore for Gilbert and Sullivan’s famous operetta. Performances were originally held every evening, but the Sunday show was dropped after the manager and company were arrested and fined for breaking the “Sunday blue laws.”

Walker subsequently sold River Front Park to the City of Denver, missing by months the Panic of 1893.
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Confluence park, just up stream, is home to the worlds first urban white water park which is also slated to be rebuilt. There has been talk of renting rafts and kayaks all summer.
What are they planning to do to Confluence Park?
     
     
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What are they planning to do to Confluence Park?


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http://www.greenwayfoundation.org/south-platte-master-plan-rvip.html

These are a bit old. I believe improvements to the whitewater park are also on the table now. hopefully things will get started next year as the Confluence Tower rises. You can see the outline of an older design in the drawings.
     
     
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The Greenway Foundation has been a tremendous asset not just to Denver but the whole metro area. I'm familiar with the South Platte Park and Carson Nature Center (for example) which is awesome.


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TakeFive, if Amazon will have 10,000,000 sf, and 71,000 HQ employees, I'd guess it'll have about 10-12,000 parking spaces. Seattle office towers are limited to one space per thousand, which for Amazon is apparently one per seven employees. The big towers are basically that exactly. Amazon also has a lot of buildings on the fringes of Downtown (South Lake Union) with more like 1.5/1000.
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Is the Platte deep enough for kayaking? If it is, I could see a boathouse where you could rent one being extremely popular.

I've actually never been down there, even when I lived in Colorado, so I really have no idea. But I've seen pictures of people kayaking and tubing at Confluence Park. If a boathouse were made a centerpiece of the waterfront, is it really laughable to think it would be used?
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Is the Platte deep enough for kayaking? If it is, I could see a boathouse where you could rent one being extremely popular.

I've actually never been down there, even when I lived in Colorado, so I really have no idea. But I've seen pictures of people kayaking and tubing at Confluence Park. If a boathouse were made a centerpiece of the waterfront, is it really laughable to think it would be used?
Yeah - the river is definitely deep enough for kayaking. However, I don't think I'd want to get into the water for tubing, although people do.

But it's an interesting proposition. I think Denver could really capitalize on recreational use of the river if it were clean and accessible.

I think of San Antonio's River Walk area, which is the tourist draw of the city. Why couldn't we promote our own river to some degree?
     
     
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I don't think I'd want to get into the water for tubing
The river is orders of magnitude cleaner than just a decade ago. The key is to check the bacteria levels online. They currently only exceed acceptable levels a few times a year. Many of the chemical sources have been cleaned up and improved drainage areas with rebuilt riparian zones have greatly improved filtration of surface runoff.

That said, I have to admit I have never actually had my head under water in the South Platte.

Last Year's Riverfest:


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The river is orders of magnitude cleaner than just a decade ago. The key is to check the bacteria levels online. They currently only exceed acceptable levels a few times a year. Many of the chemical sources have been cleaned up and improved drainage areas with rebuilt riparian zones have greatly improved filtration of surface runoff.

That said, I have to admit I have never actually had my head under water in the South Platte.
For anybody who's not seen it, HERE's the best, historical video of the Greenway Foundation (even if dated in 2010) and restoraton of the South Platte River.

Won't the doubling of Chatfield Reservoir's capacity assist in keeping the South Platte flowing even though the expansion's primary purpose is for having a "rainy day" reserve for drought conditions along with meeting growth?
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Won't the doubling of Chatfield Reservoir's capacity assist in keeping the South Platte flowing even though the expansion's primary purpose is for having a "rainy day" reserve for drought conditions along with meeting growth?
No. That's a shitty project if there ever was one. "Hey, let's expand a reservoir even though we have no water rights to fill said expansion!"
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No. That's a shitty project if there ever was one. "Hey, let's expand a reservoir even though we have no water rights to fill said expansion!"
Not exactly.

Actually given their limitations is exactly why the project makes good sense. In good years they let water they have rights to, run off because they don't have the capacity to store it. BTW, nothing precludes Denver Water from purchasing additional water rights.

Admittedly if drought years arrive with the expansion's completion, it could be a good many years before they would be able to utilize it. Such are the vagaries of weather and climate.
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