YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Johnny Aussie]

AA has just overhauled their summer 2015 scheds.

AA have just added the third daily flights to both DFW and PHX.

PHX's 3rd daily seems to be kicking in a bit earlier next year. So right now showing 1 daily each of 320 (0815), CR9 (1110) and 319 (1429) same capacity and similar departure times as last summer.

DFW's sched has flights departing at 0600, 0800 and 1300. Usually the 3rd daily was in between the morning and afternoon flights but next summer the additional flight seems to be the early morning 0600 flight. All 738s as per normal.

AA is also adjusting its 2 daily LAX departures next summer from early afternoon / later afternoon departures to early morning / noon departures. This means the feed to QF will most likely transfer to Westjet as AS will no longer be flying any flights arriving into LAX in the early evening and AA's noon flight gets in way too early for any decent connex.... or perhaps QF will just be flying YVR-SYD more often

It does appear AS is dropping LAX to just one daily permanently from 4 daily last summer. That's a huge drop in seats on AS obviously. But with AC going to 5 daily (including a daily 763) and the new 2 daily flights on both DL and AA, YVR-LAX capacity will still be higher than last summer.

[Johnny Aussie]

Korean Air has just adjusted its summer 2015 schedules to a daily 744 same as last year. Last week the scheds were still showing 5 weekly 772s only.

British Airways has adjusted its YVR schedules too for summer 2015. Same as last summer 12 weekly 744s. But BA86, the earlier departure, continues to be 5 weekly. Flights will operate except Tuesdays and Wednesdays next summer instead of except Tuesdays and Fridays last summer. BA84 remains daily.

As mentioned earlier Air Transat is increasing YVR-LGW to 6 weekly next summer. Flights will operate daily except Thursdays and Saturdays with 2 flights on Fridays. On the return LGW-YVR route flights will operate daily except Tuesdays. With TS dropping FRA from both YVR and YYC, but increasing AMS to 3 weekly and LGW to 6 weekly, TS will still have 15 weekly flights from YVR next summer down from 16 last summer.

[Hot Rod]

so, nice 747-400 action coming for 2015. Kewl!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

so, nice 747-400 action coming for 2015. Kewl!

Yup... Get 'em while u can... Being phased out rapidly.

So with any luck next summer you'll see LH, BA, CX (freighters), KE (pax and freighters), BR and QF (maybe !?) 744s/748s.

[red-paladin]

Are we ever likely to see A380s?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Are we ever likely to see A380s?

On a regular basis? Very unlikely for a long time. Most airlines configure them too premium heavy for YVR.

Sporadically? Maybe!

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yup... Get 'em while u can... Being phased out rapidly.

So with any luck next summer you'll see LH, BA, CX (freighters), KE (pax and freighters), BR and QF (maybe !?) 744s/748s.

What will replace them (in the majority of instances)?

[Klazu]

Is any of those 747's being the new 747-8 variant? At least the ones that BA is flying to YVR must be among the oldest they have in their fleet.

[SFUVancouver]

I've got a few work trips coming up in December and I was practically giddy when I found out that I'll get to fly on an A380 from LAX-SYD! I believe there is additional frequency for Qantas' YVR-SYD route beginning in January and I may just be able to utilize that for a future trip. The other long distance flights are on B773ER and B744 equipment. Throw in a whole mess of 737s and a Dash 8 for good measure, too. All together, I'm be putting 78,800 km under my belt over the course of three weeks.

[Canadian74]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

What will replace them (in the majority of instances)?

77Ws, A350s, A380s depending on the airline.
YVR will see a lot of 777s, 787s and A350s in the future

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

I've got a few work trips coming up in December and I was practically giddy when I found out that I'll get to fly on an A380 from LAX-SYD!

Enjoy it! I got to fly an Emirates A380 just last week from Dubai to London and it was fantastic. Second time I've flown the 380 and I was still like a kid in a candy store. The emirates planes even have exterior cameras which you can view through the in flight entertainment system, made landing in Dubai at night really entertaining.

The downside to the trip is I then had to fly British Airways to YVR, what a letdown after Emirates.

[Gordon]

are there any updates on Canadian Jetlines?

When does the next phase of Pier A\b open?

[LeftCoaster]

Regarding Canada Jetlines, this story is from a couple of hours ago hours ago, so pretty up to date:

Inovent, Canada Jetlines Seek C$50 Million Airline IPO
By Doug Alexander Nov 26, 2014 12:36 PM PT

Inovent Capital Inc. (IVQ/P) and Canada Jetlines Ltd. filed documents with regulators to raise C$50 million ($44.5 million) in an initial public offering to fund a new airline.

Jetlines and Inovent are merging and plan to start an “ultra-low cost” domestic airline out of Vancouver International Airport next year, the companies said today in a statement. The airline plans routes that avoid direct competition with current airlines.

“We’re very excited about, hopefully in the second quarter of 2015, bringing affordable airfares to Canadians,” Canada Jetlines president David Solloway said today in a telephone interview.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-26/inovent-canada-jetlines-seek-c-50-million-airline-ipo.html

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Regarding Canada Jetlines, this story is from a couple of hours ago hours ago, so pretty up to date:


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-11-26/inovent-canada-jetlines-seek-c-50-million-airline-ipo.html

Prompted me to look at their website again. Jetlines.ca

The plane looks better now... although I thought they were going with Airbus?

Best quote ---> "The airline plans routes that avoid direct competition with current airlines." It also says further down the landing page, "From its base at Vancouver International Airport...." Knowing that they also stated their first routes are to be in Western Canada, what routes does that leave? Unless their business plan has changed. I am not sure how that's going to work.

[Denscity]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Prompted me to look at their website again. Jetlines.ca

The plane looks better now... although I thought they were going with Airbus?

Best quote ---> "The airline plans routes that avoid direct competition with current airlines." It also says further down the landing page, "From its base at Vancouver International Airport...." Knowing that they also stated their first routes are to be in Western Canada, what routes does that leave? Unless their business plan has changed. I am not sure how that's going to work.

YCG could use a second airline . We're talking with WestJet Encore btw.

[excel]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Prompted me to look at their website again. Jetlines.ca

The plane looks better now... although I thought they were going with Airbus?

Best quote ---> "The airline plans routes that avoid direct competition with current airlines." It also says further down the landing page, "From its base at Vancouver International Airport...." Knowing that they also stated their first routes are to be in Western Canada, what routes does that leave? Unless their business plan has changed. I am not sure how that's going to work.

Ya I was under the impression they were going with a319/a320 as well but their web page clearly depicts a 737. Hopefully they have changed to Boeing.

[Hourglass]

Johnny earlier mentioned the speech that Calin Rovinescu, CEO of Air Canada, made at the Vancouver Board of Trade. Here's the transcript.

http://centreforaviation.com/files/analysis/198446/yvr_boardoftrade.pdf

While obviously crafted for the home crowd, it's interesting reading nevertheless.

[YYCguys]

Originally Posted by Denscity

YCG could use a second airline . We're talking with WestJet Encore btw.

What's WS's feelings wrt servicing Castlegar? I had thought similar markets like Cranbrook, Lethbridge, Medicine Hat, and Red Deer would have been of interest to WS but I get the impression that's not the case.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by YYCguys

What's WS's feelings wrt servicing Castlegar? I had thought similar markets like Cranbrook, Lethbridge, Medicine Hat, and Red Deer would have been of interest to WS but I get the impression that's not the case.

You can bet as soon as Encore was announced as a new carrier, every single market in Western Canada with a runway long enough to handle a Q400 would have been looked at, and they still would be assessing each and every one.

With Canada Jetlines, now you have to factor in a jet capable of landing/taking off on a runway long enough and a market able to fill a 140 seat plane that "isn't going to compete with any current carrier." Good luck!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Hourglass

Johnny earlier mentioned the speech that Calin Rovinescu, CEO of Air Canada, made at the Vancouver Board of Trade. Here's the transcript.

http://centreforaviation.com/files/analysis/198446/yvr_boardoftrade.pdf

While obviously crafted for the home crowd, it's interesting reading nevertheless.

Wow the opening is almost verbatim from his 2013 speech. Yup interesting reading.