New Downtown Calgary Arena - Page 84

MalcolmTucker · #**1661** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 5:22 AM**

If I wasn't on android, myproperty on the city of calgary site has an area measurement tool.

To make the parking eay more economic on the west village, the city could extend the free fare zone of the LRT as part of its non contribution contribution. In rail town, the civic parkade project would contribute to capacity. On the existing stamps stadium site, the city reconfiguring roads would help a fair amount.

Spring2008 · #**1662** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 2:44 PM**

Only 27,000 for seating at the new stadium?

O-tacular · #**1663** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:06 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spring2008

Only 27,000 for seating at the new stadium?

What's Mcmahon's current capacity? I thought it was way more than that. Maybe it has lots of corporate boxes or something?

Chadillaccc · #**1664** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:10 PM**

McMahon Stadium's current capacity is over 37 000. However, I'd be fine with a 27 000 person stadium if it's indoors. That is a pretty sweet deal, as we'll have the only purpose-built indoor football stadium in the country.

tomthumb2 · #**1665** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:17 PM**

If the Stamps were in an indoor field house then what would the outdoor component be? Have always thought it would be best to have a permanent roof but only if it has tons of glass like the new stadium being built in Minnesota. Then you don't have it sitting under snow for six months of the year.

*Stardust* · #**1666** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:28 PM**

If this thing is gonna be used for 30+ years then the capacity has to be a lot higher than what it is. At this rate Calgary is growing it might end up being a problem

Chadillaccc · #**1667** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:31 PM**

I mean, obviously a 50 000 person stadium like BC Place would be preferred. However, I would just be stoked for us to have an indoor stadium at all. That is what Calgary needs.

speedog · #**1668** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 4:34 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spring2008

Only 27,000 for seating at the new stadium?

Considering average attendance for the 2013 and 2014 seasons has been between 29,000 and 30,000 and that is sold tickets, not actual warm bodies in the stands, then maybe 27,000 is not unrealistic.

But if it's an indoor facility, could that increase bodies in the stands or would it drive some away? There is something about watching a football game outdoors even when it's cold and especially so on a warm summer evening.

Jay in Cowtown · #**1669** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 5:09 PM**

McMahon's capacity is 35'000 and change. It was 37'000 before they built those box suites and club level on both E & W stands.

27'000 is too small for a football stadium here imo. More people would show up to games in this city if we had a stadium with no benches and was climate controlled... guaranteed! 34 - 36'000 I'd say, Edmonton usually gets that in Commonwealth and it doesn't even have a roof... just a better stadium!

Spring2008 · #**1670** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 6:12 PM**

27k is def too small, why build a stadium smaller than McMahon?

Surrealplaces · #**1671** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 6:26 PM**

I think if you're going to go through the trouble of building an indoor stadium, 27K seems too small IMO. At least go to ~35K. We get some big crowds at Stamps games in the middle of summer, but come Western Final time, the crowds are actually less. I know weather is part of it, as I know lots of people who have gone to a November game and vowed not to go again because it was too cold.

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedog

Considering average attendance for the 2013 and 2014 seasons has been between 29,000 and 30,000 and that is sold tickets, not actual warm bodies in the stands, then maybe 27,000 is not unrealistic.

But if it's an indoor facility, could that increase bodies in the stands or would it drive some away? There is something about watching a football game outdoors even when it's cold and especially so on a warm summer evening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay in Cowtown

McMahon's capacity is 35'000 and change. It was 37'000 before they built those box suites and club level on both E & W stands.

27'000 is too small for a football stadium here imo. More people would show up to games in this city if we had a stadium with no benches and was climate controlled... guaranteed! 34 - 36'000 I'd say, Edmonton usually gets that in Commonwealth and it doesn't even have a roof... just a better stadium!

Chadillaccc · #**1672** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 6:30 PM**

If the roof is retractable, indoor is perfect.

I agree that 35 000 would be the perfect size, even 40 000 to get into the big leagues (as far as Canadian stadiums go)...

Luk_o · #**1673** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 6:30 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I mean, obviously a 50 000 person stadium like BC Place would be preferred. However, I would just be stoked for us to have an indoor stadium at all. That is what Calgary needs.

I would way rather keep it an outdoor set-up, just with larger canopies length-wise and higher facilities at the end zones to mitigate the wind. The elements are part of the game plain and simple, permanately taking the game indoors is a huge mistake. Spending less on the roof would allow to spend more on components that actually matter. A 40k capacity with better facilities would be perfect.

Chadillaccc · #**1674** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 6:32 PM**

I guess if they have an extensive and advanced heating system for the seating areas a fully outdoor facility would be okay.

Calgarian · #**1675** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 7:01 PM**

27000 better come with the potential for extra seating to be added for major events.

93JC · #**1676** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 8:54 PM**

Guys, c'mon now, we know this is a tall tale.

Quote:

The Flames are waiting to have the deal done before making it public to avoid the mess the Oiler's made of their arena announcement.

Right. They don't leak this sort of stuff to season ticket holders at a fan appreciation luncheon.

speedog · #**1677** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 8:55 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I guess if they have an extensive and advanced heating system for the seating areas a fully outdoor facility would be okay.

Oh, you've never been to McMahon on a cold November day, have you? There's not a chance they could build an extensive and advanced heating ystem that would suffice when it's -20C, blowing and snowing.

Calgarian · #**1678** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 8:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by 93JC

Guys, c'mon now, we know this is a tall tale.

This is pretty much how I feel about this. Knowing that we will have the Grey Cup and could use a new stadium to try and attract some major international events, I would think they would want to be able to have about 45 000 seats possible.

Innersoul1 · #**1679** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 8:59 PM**

I am curious, do any of you know of a precedent for an indoor "field house" that is used as as stadium? Let's put it this way, think about when a ball in punted in football or soccer and consider how high the ball is kicked. At AT&T stadium in Dallas the scoreboard is hung 90ft above the field. and has been hit before. So the roof of the stadium would have to be higher than 90 feet to not only accommodate play but to also not make the building feel boxed in. I am intrigued by this rumour of a field house/stadium. I am having trouble imagining what it might look like. I also agree that 27,000 is a little bit small. It should definitely have space for expansion.

Innersoul1 · #**1680** Posted **Oct 27, 2014, 9:06 PM**

Yep, let's go with tall tail on this one. I can't even find an example online of a Fieldhouse that could legitimately be used as an indoor stadium and look the part. I would imagine that the 27,000 seats would all have to be retractable. It certainly wouldn't make for a very good feel.