YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 325

officedweller · #**6481** Posted **Oct 17, 2014, 10:23 PM**

Does Phase 2 mean a smaller parking lot (that people were complaining about walking across from the station)?

EDIT - found this:

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The centre will be built in two phases:
The first phase will offer 240,000 sq. ft. of retail and café/restaurants, with the centre reaching a total of nearly 400,000 sq. ft. and 150 stores on completion of a second phase.
The centre will offer more than 2,500 adjacent parking spaces to complement its Canada Line access.

http://www.mcarthurglen.com/en/designer-outlet-vancouver/en/our-new-outlet/#1738

This link mentions 3 stages:

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Construction period: Stage 1 & 2: 12/2013 - 04/2015, Stage 3: 06/2016

Total project area: Stage 1 & 2: 42 048 m² , Stage 3: 23 825 m²

http://www.strabag.be/databases/internet....html#?men1=5&men2=undefined&sid=500&h=5

I wonder if there will be a Nordstrom Rack, HR2 or Saks Off 5th?

Johnny Aussie · #**6482** Posted **Oct 17, 2014, 11:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Kapten

cdg? Or even better: Paris, Geneva, and Brussels? :-)

I would think CDG is the only viable direct flight on your list mate. GVA and BRU would be minimal.

Rouge is exactly the type of carrier that can re-open previous routes that wouldn't be viable with the current Air Canada offerings. KIX is a perfect example. CDG would be another perfect example. If TS can do it... Rouge could definitely make a go of it.

Kapten · #**6483** Posted **Oct 17, 2014, 11:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

I would think CDG is the only viable direct flight on your list mate. GVA and BRU would be minimal.

Rouge is exactly the type of carrier that can re-open previous routes that wouldn't be viable with the current Air Canada offerings. KIX is a perfect example. CDG would be another perfect example. If TS can do it... Rouge could definitely make a go of it.

Well... BRU is a star alliance hub and GVA is a star alliance focus city, so perhaps there is a market for code share/connecting service?

MalcolmTucker · #**6484** Posted **Oct 18, 2014, 4:26 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kapten

Well... BRU is a star alliance hub and GVA is a star alliance focus city, so perhaps there is a market for code share/connecting service?

BRU's main airline is Brussels Airlines, which is 45% owned by Lufthansa, which holds an option to buy the rest of the company.

GVA's Star airline is SWISS. 100% owned by Lufthansa.

Lufthansa, SWISS and Brussels Airlines has a full joint venture on transatlantic and connecting flights with Air Canada and United.

Even if there was sufficient origin and destination traffic, I can't see either being boosted much by hubbing.

casper · #**6485** Posted **Oct 21, 2014, 4:40 AM**

Interesting piece:

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-upd...ad-pakistan/story-e6frfq80-1227097049646

Vancouver was the only North American airport to make the top 10 airports list. As expect LaGuardia was the only North American airport to make the worse 10 list.

Denscity · #**6486** Posted **Oct 21, 2014, 5:24 AM**

Ya YVR is always voted in the top 10 in the world (#5 here) and #1 in North America year after year.

nname · #**6487** Posted **Oct 21, 2014, 8:46 AM**

Sunwing Airlines Adds Vancouver – Freeport Service from Nov 2014

Sunwing Airlines from 01NOV14 is launching service between Vancouver and Freeport, with 1 weekly flight. Initially service operates via Calgary in both direction, but this will become nonstop operation from 19DEC14. Nonstop operational schedule as follow.

WG216 YVR0900 – 1600FPO 738 5
WG217 FPO1915 – 2310YVR 738 5

http://airlineroute.net/2014/10/21/wg-yvrfpo-w14/

Johnny Aussie · #**6488** Posted **Oct 22, 2014, 2:14 AM**

YUL just posted their August pax stats.

Total international for YUL was 936,866 vs 1,006,974 for YVR.

YTD international for YUL was 6,322,367 vs 6,434,990 for YVR.

The gap has widened a bit in August.

craneSpotter · #**6489** Posted **Oct 22, 2014, 7:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

YUL just posted their August pax stats.

Total international for YUL was 936,866 vs 1,006,974 for YVR.

YTD international for YUL was 6,322,367 vs 6,434,990 for YVR.

The gap has widened a bit in August.

Does YUL not have some significant international expansion coming in 2015?

craneSpotter · #**6490** Posted **Oct 22, 2014, 7:40 PM**

Air Canada Rouge modifies planned Vancouver – Osaka Service in S15

Update at 0800GMT 22OCT14

Air Canada rouge on Tuesday 21OCT14 opened reservations for planned Vancouver – Osaka Kansai service, starting 01MAY15. Based on inventory listing, rouge will offer 4 weekly flights from 01MAY15 to 24MAY15 (YVR departure), instead of 5. The 5th weekly service will be added from 26MAY15.

Flight number change is also effect.

AC1951 YVR1205 – 1455+1KIX 763 x146
AC1952 KIX1625 – 1000YVR 763 x257

Service operates Day x46 from YVR, Day x57 from KIX from 26MAY15. Previously AC planned to operate this route as AC1927/1928.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/10/22/zx-kix-s15update2/

Johnny Aussie · #**6491** Posted **Oct 22, 2014, 10:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter

Does YUL not have some significant international expansion coming in 2015?

They sure are. Have you seen YVR's list too?

I still believe international is international... Travel between two countries.... No other country in the world separates segments like this. I get why Canada does because transborder is obviously a huge chunk for a lot of Canadian airports. But when comparing international stats with other world airports and with say Aussie airports should we take out the trans-Tasman (New Zealand) pax numbers? It's the closest equivalent to transborder I suppose. US Airports record their transborder as part of international as well.

spm2013 · #**6492** Posted **Oct 22, 2014, 11:51 PM**

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craneSpotter · #**6493** Posted **Oct 23, 2014, 8:09 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

They sure are. Have you seen YVR's list too?

I still believe international is international... Travel between two countries.... No other country in the world separates segments like this. I get why Canada does because transborder is obviously a huge chunk for a lot of Canadian airports. But when comparing international stats with other world airports and with say Aussie airports should we take out the trans-Tasman (New Zealand) pax numbers? It's the closest equivalent to transborder I suppose. US Airports record their transborder as part of international as well.

Yes of course I have! Just seems like YUL is also getting quite a few new INT flights and/or frequency increases.

I may be wrong, but I think Transborder traffic was separated out because the US and Canada had/have special customs & Immigration agreements in place for cross border travel. So from a customs and Immigration standpoint the flights were not truly 'international' like flights from other countries.

YYCguys · #**6494** Posted **Oct 23, 2014, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by spm2013

Not sure if this was previously posted, but a Carl Jr's in the A-B connector Phase 2

http://www.yvr.ca/en/Blog/Posts/First_Phase_of_New_A-B_Connector_Now_Open.aspx

So, pizza/burgers/coffee will be represented. This is good, because there's not a lot there right now (Sbux and Palominos in A, Green Bean in B). If you are taking off out of a B gate, it's quite a hike from Sbux to your gate, so gotta get through security mighty early!

SpongeG · #**6495** Posted **Oct 23, 2014, 10:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Does Phase 2 mean a smaller parking lot (that people were complaining about walking across from the station)?

EDIT - found this:

http://www.mcarthurglen.com/en/designer-outlet-vancouver/en/our-new-outlet/#1738

This link mentions 3 stages:

http://www.strabag.be/databases/internet....html#?men1=5&men2=undefined&sid=500&h=5

I wonder if there will be a Nordstrom Rack, HR2 or Saks Off 5th?

i've never seen a rack inside an outlet mall and they have pushed back plans to open those stores until 2017 after seeing how the regular stores do

saks off 5th probably they are pretty small, the ones i have been to anyway, the rack stores are at least the size of a winners, saks off 5th not much larger than a gap store

officedweller · #**6496** Posted **Oct 23, 2014, 11:07 PM**

Saks Off 5th at Bridgeport Village (south of Portland is the nicest I've seen) It's about the size of a Winners with high ceilings.
The one at Las Vegas Premium Outlets (South) is old and much smaller.

The Nordstrom Rack at Factoria Mall (near Bellevue) is huge - 41,000 sq feet.
http://marketplaceatfactoria.com/leasing.asp

Johnny Aussie · #**6497** Posted **Oct 24, 2014, 1:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter

Yes of course I have! Just seems like YUL is also getting quite a few new INT flights and/or frequency increases.

I may be wrong, but I think Transborder traffic was separated out because the US and Canada had/have special customs & Immigration agreements in place for cross border travel. So from a customs and Immigration standpoint the flights were not truly 'international' like flights from other countries.

Mais oui!

My other theory is no matter from where you get off a plane... be that Minneapolis, Manchester or Manila... You gotta go through the same customs and immigration :-)

Johnny Aussie · #**6498** Posted **Oct 24, 2014, 2:44 AM**

1) In Craig Richmond's speech to the Vancouver Board of Trade this week he is expecting the Transit Without Visa (TWOV) program to get the nod from the Feds in the next few months.
http://www.biv.com/article/2014/10/yvr-banks-transit-without-visa-program-help-it-bat/

2) AC has loaded its KIX flights and are now open for reservation.

3) The additional PR flights to MNL are now added as well and JFK finally listed as a destination on their reservations page.
Their official press release.
http://www.philippineairlines.com/news-and-events/pal-flies-new-york-march-2015

4) AC's first of many international Dreamliner routes kicks off on Sunday to PVG.

Ramp it up!

trofirhen · #**6499** Posted **Oct 24, 2014, 2:23 PM**

DELTA Seattle hub routes to Asia. How much of a challenge does this pose to YVR? (DL once had a PDX - Asia hub that included Fukuoka and Bangkok. As you all know that hub was disbanded)
Nevertheless, as an aside, is YVR to BKK a feasability? Would it be a good one to have?

http://upgrd.com/images/upload/image/aerospace/sea-asia.gif

Denscity · #**6500** Posted **Oct 24, 2014, 5:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

1) In Craig Richmond's speech to the Vancouver Board of Trade this week he is expecting the Transit Without Visa (TWOV) program to get the nod from the Feds in the next few months.
http://www.biv.com/article/2014/10/yvr-banks-transit-without-visa-program-help-it-bat/

2) AC has loaded its KIX flights and are now open for reservation.

3) The additional PR flights to MNL are now added as well and JFK finally listed as a destination on their reservations page.
Their official press release.
http://www.philippineairlines.com/news-and-events/pal-flies-new-york-march-2015

4) AC's first of many international Dreamliner routes kicks off on Sunday to PVG.

Ramp it up!

The exciting news for YVR keeps flowing in thanks again Johnny! Cheers