ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[Alfred E Neuman]

Also, site prep for Cornerstone Medical Bldg. has begun on P'tree at Collier.

[micropundit]

According to Atlanta Business Chronicle,The Federal Transit Administration and MARTA are moving forward with a study of a possible new light rail transit line that would run through the Clifton Corridor.The proposed 8.8 mile line would extend from the Lindbergh MARTA station through the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) headquarters and Emory University and Emory Hospital campuses to the Avondale MARTA station.

The Clifton Corridor, which runs along Clifton Road past the CDC and Emory, is a growing employment center that's not served by either direct Interstate access or high-capacity transit.

The Atlanta Business Chronicle reported last January that the CDC is considering an expansion over 10 years at its campus near Emory University that could lead to a 30 percent increase in workers and the construction of a big new laboratory and parking deck. At a public hearing on March 20, area residents expressed concerns that such an influx of new commuters would be too much for the already congested corridor.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...-to-launch-study-of-light-rail-line.html

[forj]

Originally Posted by micropundit

According to Atlanta Business Chronicle,The Federal Transit Administration and MARTA are moving forward with a study of a possible new light rail transit line that would run through the Clifton Corridor.The proposed 8.8 mile line would extend from the Lindbergh MARTA station through the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) headquarters and Emory University and Emory Hospital campuses to the Avondale MARTA station.

The Clifton Corridor, which runs along Clifton Road past the CDC and Emory, is a growing employment center that's not served by either direct Interstate access or high-capacity transit.

The Atlanta Business Chronicle reported last January that the CDC is considering an expansion over 10 years at its campus near Emory University that could lead to a 30 percent increase in workers and the construction of a big new laboratory and parking deck. At a public hearing on March 20, area residents expressed concerns that such an influx of new commuters would be too much for the already congested corridor.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...-to-launch-study-of-light-rail-line.html

to me this was one of the biggest and most important proposals that was included in the TSPLOST. There is a huge need for this. It would be incredibly beneficial for the Emory/CDC area, but also would connect to Avondale Station east of Decatur if they stick to the initial proposal, which would allow you to travel from Decatur to Lindberg and the northern reaches of Marta without going through five points station. would really make MARTA a much more robust and useful transit system

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by forj

to me this was one of the biggest and most important proposals that was included in the TSPLOST. There is a huge need for this. It would be incredibly beneficial for the Emory/CDC area, but also would connect to Avondale Station east of Decatur if they stick to the initial proposal, which would allow you to travel from Decatur to Lindberg and the northern reaches of Marta without going through five points station. would really make MARTA a much more robust and useful transit system

It would also hook up Decatur with Buckhead. That has long been one of the most annoying traverses in town, and one that many people need to make.

[Frankster87]

Originally Posted by arjay57

It would also hook up Decatur with Buckhead. That has long been one of the most annoying traverses in town, and one that many people need to make.

It would be great if the line could continue northwest into the Buckhead Village. With everything going on in the village, it would make sense for it to have rail access. That was one aspect I longed for when I lived there.

[Buck]

Originally Posted by Frankster87

It would be great if the line could continue northwest into the Buckhead Village. With everything going on in the village, it would make sense for it to have rail access. That was one aspect I longed for when I lived there.

Yes. That area already needs it and it would only improve the appeal of the district.

[forj]

Originally Posted by Buck

Yes. That area already needs it and it would only improve the appeal of the district.

i think what we'll see is streetcar serving this part of Buckhead. it's a long trek on streetcar from downtown up peachtree to buckehad so they'll have to run a good number of cars ( would maybe be a southern segment and a northern segment where you have to transfer? ), but it makes lots of sense as the peachtree corridor is fairly dense and under served by transit. i mean there are buses of course.

[trainiac]

Originally Posted by forj

i think what we'll see is streetcar serving this part of Buckhead. it's a long trek on streetcar from downtown up peachtree to buckehad so they'll have to run a good number of cars ( would maybe be a southern segment and a northern segment where you have to transfer? ), but it makes lots of sense as the peachtree corridor is fairly dense and under served by transit. i mean there are buses of course.

Don't forget Buc which is free. They claim to still be running 10 minute headways

http://bucride.com/about-the-buc

[forj]

Originally Posted by trainiac

Don't forget Buc which is free. They claim to still be running 10 minute headways

http://bucride.com/about-the-buc

you know ive never even heard of that before.. interesting.. looks like it doesnt cover a very big area though and doesnt go over to the Buckhead Atlanta area..

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by forj

you know ive never even heard of that before.. interesting.. looks like it doesnt cover a very big area though and doesnt go over to the Buckhead Atlanta area..

Seems to me the Buc has potential. I'd like to see it extended down Peachtree to the Village area, and up Wieuca Road to Phipps Blvd and along Lenox. All of those areas are becoming heavily developed and I would think they could support more local transit. Evening hours would also be a plus. Right now I think it's more like an office workers shuttle.

They could implement the Buc now and if there's demand convert to a streetcar in 10 years or so.

[arctk2014]

Anybody know what's going on at the corner of Piedmont and Westminster? Just passed by earlier today and a construction fence with ongoing sitework/clearing. Perhaps it's just to make the site more marketable?

[arctk2014]

Originally Posted by forj

you know ive never even heard of that before.. interesting.. looks like it doesnt cover a very big area though and doesnt go over to the Buckhead Atlanta area..

http://buckheadview.com/2014/10/07/2-pla...ise-projects-detailed-review-committees/

Unfortunately it looks like the Buc won't extend for quite a while unless more businesses in this area join the Buckhead CID.

"It was also pointed out to Harbin that the Buckhead Community Improvement District presently is not considering expanding its buc shuttle to the Village area and he was asked if he felt it was necessary to support his development.

Harbin said it was not a requirement, but “we would love to have it and would do what we can to support it.” However, he was clear that he did not expect Hanover to subsidize it."

[RATBOYKEV]

Originally Posted by arctk2014

Anybody know what's going on at the corner of Piedmont and Westminster? Just passed by earlier today and a construction fence with ongoing sitework/clearing. Perhaps it's just to make the site more marketable?

http://www.montehewetthomes.com/ansley-piedmont-park.cfm

There was an older townhome proposal from 05/2013:

"Monte Hewett Homes will be building beautiful three-story townhomes along Piedmont Avenue, facing Piedmont Park. These townhomes will start in the $900s with initial plans for courtyards and/or custom terraces."

[bfarley30]

Originally Posted by micropundit

According to Atlanta Business Chronicle,The Federal Transit Administration and MARTA are moving forward with a study of a possible new light rail transit line that would run through the Clifton Corridor.The proposed 8.8 mile line would extend from the Lindbergh MARTA station through the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) headquarters and Emory University and Emory Hospital campuses to the Avondale MARTA station.

The Clifton Corridor, which runs along Clifton Road past the CDC and Emory, is a growing employment center that's not served by either direct Interstate access or high-capacity transit.

The Atlanta Business Chronicle reported last January that the CDC is considering an expansion over 10 years at its campus near Emory University that could lead to a 30 percent increase in workers and the construction of a big new laboratory and parking deck. At a public hearing on March 20, area residents expressed concerns that such an influx of new commuters would be too much for the already congested corridor.
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/news/...-to-launch-study-of-light-rail-line.html

I think if Clayton votes yes for MARTA in a few weeks this proposal needs to change from light rail to heavy rail. This would be a great opportunity to create a new line from Jonesboro to Emory/CDC. Instead of Lindberg being the transfer point they can do the transfer at a newly constructed Armour Yard Station. A limited stop shuttle from the new Emory/CDC Station to Decatur station could be created using Clifton Rd, N. Decatur Rd, and Clifton Rd to connect to the Decatur Station. It can be the new Silver Line and new bus route 210. This would unify the system more using existing services instead of trying to build a whole new type of mode that's only going to service a small area. The 210 could easily run at 10 minute headways to make it desirable during the day (5am to 10pm) and then run until train service ends around 1am.

[mikecolley]

Originally Posted by trainiac

Don't forget Buc which is free. They claim to still be running 10 minute headways

http://bucride.com/about-the-buc

The Buc as currently implemented is a joke. It mostly runs during rush hour, and thus the buses sit in traffic along with all of the cars. One of the buses runs during lunch, but with 20 minute headways, it's usually faster to walk, and always faster to drive. This is not a substitution for rapid transit.

[micropundit]

Downtown Atlanta’s historic Flatiron Building has been purchased and is now set for a redo as a new startup hub. Arun Nijhawan, managing principal for Lucror Resources, acquired the building on Oct. 15 for almost $2 million, according to Fulton County records.Nijhawan plans to turn the 40,000 square foot Flatiron into a "collaborative place" for Atlanta's "makers, thinkers, and doers." The Flatiron ,built in 1897, four years prior to the iconic building of the same name in NYC , is located on the Atlanta Streetcar route and also three blocks from a MARTA train station.

Invest Atlanta, the city's economic development arm, has offered Lucror a $1.5 million loan to help offset more than $10 million in acquisition and renovation costs.

http://atlurbanist.tumblr.com/

[bryantm3]

Originally Posted by bfarley30

I think if Clayton votes yes for MARTA in a few weeks this proposal needs to change from light rail to heavy rail. This would be a great opportunity to create a new line from Jonesboro to Emory/CDC. Instead of Lindberg being the transfer point they can do the transfer at a newly constructed Armour Yard Station. A limited stop shuttle from the new Emory/CDC Station to Decatur station could be created using Clifton Rd, N. Decatur Rd, and Clifton Rd to connect to the Decatur Station. It can be the new Silver Line and new bus route 210. This would unify the system more using existing services instead of trying to build a whole new type of mode that's only going to service a small area. The 210 could easily run at 10 minute headways to make it desirable during the day (5am to 10pm) and then run until train service ends around 1am.

i agree. the light rail proposal simply sucks. a good portion of it is actually in mixed traffic on clifton, so the headways will be entirely up to traffic. the project needs to be switched to a heavy rail project, and if they want to do light rail on the stretch between north decatur and avondale, they can do so; the first part needs to be subway.

[thebigATL]

Any new proposals or something that's bout to come to fruition?

[RATBOYKEV]

Originally Posted by thebigATL

Any new proposals or something that's bout to come to fruition?

It looks like, for midtown, we will see:

• Seventh Midtown
• 60 11th St
• One Museum Place

as the next projects starting in the very near term.

[briantech]

Originally Posted by bryantm3

i agree. the light rail proposal simply sucks. a good portion of it is actually in mixed traffic on clifton, so the headways will be entirely up to traffic. the project needs to be switched to a heavy rail project, and if they want to do light rail on the stretch between north decatur and avondale, they can do so; the first part needs to be subway.

So is the difference between light rail and heavy rail essentially whether or not you have a dedicated ROW separate from vehicular traffic?

Is there even anywhere above ground that you *could* put a heavy rail line? Or would it have to be all underground.