YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Johnny Aussie]

Demand continuing to outstrip capacity increases in all sectors.

Good to see capacity being absorbed.

http://aircanada.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=814

And YVR's AC domestic capacity increasing this winter with an additional 27-30 weekly flights in contrast to other Western Canadian bases.

And I was just thinking about this mob this morning.

They now have a website. Not much in here really.

www.jetlines.ca

[Hot Rod]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Yes ha ha.

Technically an upgrade (service quality ) but a downgauge (capacity).

My posts are usually about capacity changes. Helps forecast future stats.

sorry folks for tying up the forum, but just a quick question to Johnny.

Isn't 788 bigger (capacity) than 763? If it is indeed smaller cap, I do apologize but I was under the impression it was larger (and of course, newer as you highlighted).

Thanks all!

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Hot Rod

sorry folks for tying up the forum, but just a quick question to Johnny.

Isn't 788 bigger (capacity) than 763? If it is indeed smaller cap, I do apologize but I was under the impression it was larger (and of course, newer as you highlighted).

Thanks all!

Not in JAL's case....

The 788 has 186 seats and the 763s they flew to YVR had 199 seats.

So a small difference in actual seats but still a bit less.

[YVR Bruce]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

The 788 has 186 seats and the 763s they flew to YVR had 199 seats.

It would be interesting to learn about the relative fuel efficiency effect of that switch. Boeing claims 20-odd % improvement for the 787 over the '67, but that is probably based on 300 seats vs 225-240 (or in AC's case, 251 vs 191).

[Hot Rod]

ah, thanks Johnny!!!

hopefully it will make it easier for the flight to have a load advantage. Pax can definitely appreciate the superior product and experience. ...

[Johnny Aussie]

Effective 8 January Westjet adding a second daily to PSP....

And I was just saying how Westjet put the brakes on transborder expansion. Perhaps a response to Rouge?

YVR-PSP
WS1724 dep 0725 arr 1015 73W **
WS1722 dep 0825 arr 1115 73H

PSP-YVR
WS1723 dep 1205 arr 1503 73H
WS1725 dep 1900 arr 2158 73W **

** new flight

New milestones for the upcoming winter:
Total Westjet transborder increases to 14 daily.
Total transborder from YVR will now exceed 70 daily (up from 60 last winter)
Total Westjet (including Encore) will be just under 60 daily (up from 56 last winter)

[deasine]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

They now have a website. Not much in here really.

www.jetlines.ca

I felt like I stepped into 2005.

[Canadian74]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

AC is flipping a/c all over the place! 77L is now on YYC-FRA for the winter replacing the 333.

It's also on one of the YYZ-FRA flights I believe in the winter. I don't think AC requires the range of the 77L anymore, after the increase in 77W MTOW.

Their longest flights (YYZ-HKG, YVR-SYD) are being operated with 77W.

[craneSpotter]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

And YVR's AC domestic capacity increasing this winter with an additional 27-30 weekly flights in contrast to other Western Canadian bases.

And I was just thinking about this mob this morning.

They now have a website. Not much in here really.

www.jetlines.ca

Good to see the increase in AC domestic capacity out of Vancouver!

Canada Jetlines is in the process of amalgamating (qualifying transaction) with Inovent Capital Ltd., a TSXV listed capital pool company. This is inline with Jetlines business plan. The new amalgamated corporation will be named .... Canada Jetlines Ltd.... , and will be listed on the TSXV under a new symbol. They are getting closer to launch...now lets see if they fly!

[casper]

Originally Posted by Canadian74

It's also on one of the YYZ-FRA flights I believe in the winter. I don't think AC requires the range of the 77L anymore, after the increase in 77W MTOW.

Their longest flights (YYZ-HKG, YVR-SYD) are being operated with 77W.

Not certain if it is correct, but I remember reading somewhere that the MTOW upgrade permits the 777-300 to service SYD without restriction only until the aircraft get reconfigured in 10 across economy. Once that happens they will need the 77L again.

[twoNeurons]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not in JAL's case....

The 788 has 186 seats and the 763s they flew to YVR had 199 seats.

So a small difference in actual seats but still a bit less.

Yep, they followed ANA's lead and went with a 2-4-2 layout in economy.
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Japan_Airlines/Japan_Airlines_787-800.php

United ordered their 787s with a tighter 3-3-3 layout (219 pax)
http://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Airlines_Boeing_787-800.php

I'll be trying out JAL's 787 product in just over two weeks!

[Johnny Aussie]

Another solid month for YVR and YYC.

Overall highlights for the West:

YVR
LHR up about 6,500 pax and a very solid 94.8% LF. Approx 93% of the added capacity absorbed. A very good sign.
LGW up about 450 pax. LF almost 98%. Perhaps one reason why Air Transat increasing to 6 weekly next summer.
http://news-releases.transat.com/2014-10-15-Air-Transat-unveils-its-new-Europe-program-for-2015
MAN and GLA minimal change but very decent 89.8% and 92.7% LFs.

With Virgin Atlantic pulling out next summer these numbers will obviously take a hit next year.

YYC
LHR up about 1,500 pax and a solid LF of 93.7%. Approx 78% of the added capacity has been absorbed.
LGW down about 840 pax but due to fewer flights because of days of week of flights. LF about 88%.
MAN and GLA a mixed bag but good LF of 89.2%

YEG
LHR down about 1,000 pax and a LF of about 88.8%. Not bad.
LGW no passengers in September compared to last year.

[Johnny Aussie]

Next summer Air Transat is cancelling the YVR-FRA and YYC-FRA routes.

Overall Air Transat will have 15 weekly flights from YVR to Europe versus 16 this past summer. So overall, not a significant hit. Increased flying to AMS and LGW offsetting the loss of the 3 weekly FRA flights.

http://news-releases.transat.com/2014-10-15-Air-Transat-unveils-its-new-Europe-program-for-2015

[SpongeG]

where is PSP?

[thegx]

^Palm Springs...

[SpongeG]

ah ok

[s211]

Might anyone know the level of pre-leasing accomplished at the outlet mall? A colleague of mine suggested it was only in the very low double-digits, but that just feels a little crazy.

[Johnny Aussie]

Just saw a tweet recruiting more YVR-based FAs.

Bilingual Japanese/English but also French/English.

We know what the Japanese/English is for.... (KIX and ???)

I know the YVR base for rouge doesn't have a requirement for bilingual French/English now.... soooo.... to be specifically recruiting for bilingual French/English could this mean YVR-??? is actually in the cards?

[Kapten]

Originally Posted by johnny aussie

just saw a tweet recruiting more yvr-based fas.

Bilingual japanese/english but also french/english.

We know what the japanese/english is for.... (kix and ???)

i know the yvr base for rouge doesn't have a requirement for bilingual french/english now.... Soooo.... To be specifically recruiting for bilingual french/english could this mean yvr-??? Is actually in the cards?

cdg? Or even better: Paris, Geneva, and Brussels? :-)

[phesto]

Originally Posted by s211

Might anyone know the level of pre-leasing accomplished at the outlet mall? A colleague of mine suggested it was only in the very low double-digits, but that just feels a little crazy.

I had heard that it is hovering around 75%, and that is only because the developer is holding back several units until completion. The leasing activity has been so good that they are proceeding with phase 2 (of 3) immediately.