PHILADELPHIA | Highrise Development Thread IX - Page 250

summersm343 · #**4981** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 6:29 PM**

Roseland Property

Based in New Brunswick, NJ. Just toured them around several of our Center City properties. They are looking to build "several" apartment highrises in Center City. I will keep you updated when I know more!

Philly Fan · #**4982** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 6:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Roseland Property

Based in New Brunswick, NJ. Just toured them around several of our Center City properties. They are looking to build "several" apartment highrises in Center City. I will keep you updated when I know more!

Dude!

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Roseland is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Mack-Cali Realty Corporation (NYSE:CLI), one of the country's largest real estate investment trusts (REIT's) and leading owner, manager, and developer of class A real estate. Mack-Cali is a long-time industry leader and benefits from a strong financial position in the real estate market.

http://www.roselandproperty.com/index.html

iheartphilly · #**4983** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 6:56 PM**

Nice aerial shot of Philly and surroundings...

http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphot...10683786_309516642573379_576404791_n.jpg

ILovePhilly · #**4984** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 6:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Roseland Property

Based in New Brunswick, NJ. Just toured them around several of our Center City properties. They are looking to build "several" apartment highrises in Center City. I will keep you updated when I know more!

That's amazing!! Tell them I'm looking for mid-level (not luxury) amenities, a 3 bedroom for less than $2,500 in rent but at this point I'd prefer a condo under $450,000, and if they could just skip the parking lot/garage altogether (saves on a very expensive part of the construction!) that would be amazing.

I kid, sort of. But seriously, that's awesome can't wait to hear more. Thanks for the update!

br323206 · #**4985** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 7:51 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne

The Dover Air Force base is gigantic, and very important towards OUR national defense.
Dover Downs - NASCAR. And site of the Firefly Music Fest - which is starting to become massive.
And Dover is the state capital. Dover Mall. Oh yeah, there's a casino at Dover Downs too.
And Del State is right close by.

County population has increased a lot since 2000 - newer, big housing - for cheap.
2000 pop was 126,697
2010 - 162,310
est. 2013 - 169,419

Yeah - That's about it. (I still don't get the Philly people mockery, borderline hatred! of The First State). Did you read Delaware is the only state in the US where Eagles merchandise is #1 in sales?? PA - Steelers beat you folks (Steelers vs. Eagles sales). NJ - Giants take the cake.
Stop hating on Delaware, damn it!

I hope you weren't taking my comment as Delaware hating. I love Delaware. From chateau country to the beaches, I think it's a great state. I even have a degree from UDel. I've also written planning documents for Delaware municipalities. I was just stating a fact that it is easier to show big percentage gains when starting from a lower base.

Also, I hope Kent and Sussex Counties don't grow too much more. I'd hate to see all of that beautiful rural land get gobbled up by more suburban sprawl. I'd also hate to see traffic on Route 1 get even worse.

Jawnadelphia · #**4986** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

I hope you weren't taking my comment as Delaware hating. I love Delaware. From chateau country to the beaches, I think it's a great state. I even have a degree from UDel. I've also written planning documents for Delaware municipalities. I was just stating a fact that it is easier to show big percentage gains when starting from a lower base.

Also, I hope Kent and Sussex Counties don't grow too much more. I'd hate to see all of that beautiful rural land get gobbled up by more suburban sprawl. I'd also hate to see traffic on Route 1 get even worse.

Ha, no prob..., and Go Blue Hens (a fellow alum here).

Jawnadelphia · #**4987** Posted **Oct 6, 2014, 11:32 PM**

http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-costl...e-hurdles-getting-to-patients-1412627150

"Novartis and Juno are developing their treatments in partnership with top academic teams: Novartis with the University of Pennsylvania and Juno with teams at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, Seattle Children’s Hospital and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, also in Seattle."
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They can't finish that addition fast enough ... race for a cure. Dr. June and his team at UPenn, along with that Novartis funded addition - may actually cure blood cancers... not crazy talk, it is a reality. Proud to have them in our backyard.

Lots of press the last few years - and its well warranted:

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/carl-june-key-fighting-cancer/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/health/13gene.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/health...sing-altered-t-cells.html?pagewanted=all

GarCastle · #**4988** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 2:09 AM**

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Originally Posted by br323206

Total misrepresentation of what that means. You are CHOOSING to pay the tax, no one is FORCING you to work in Philadelphia. If you choose to come into Philadelphia everyday and use the infrastructure it makes sense for you to contribute.

Folks working in the City page a near equal wage tax to those living there and those commuting in drive on federal roads and take federal railroads for the most part. I cross 1 Philadelphia street, so I don't think I'm exacting "using" the infrastructure. So for my taxes, I am NOT allowed to vote for anything in the city because I am not a resident. That's — and I think you are smart enough to know that. The city property tax is a joke, so yes in one aspect it is a bargain to live in the city.

It's true that at least Philadelphia has a democracy and not a monarch an ocean away, but I still get zero say in what happens despite being taxed. I have no vote towards the taxation and no-one in my demographic (commuters) has a vote towards that taxation. That's taxation without representation. Seems fairly black and white. /shrug Are there actually any benefits to living in the city? Do you get to attend this or that? If so, I doubt I could because I'm not a resident yet I pay the same tax LOL.

Cheers,
G.

Flyers2001 · #**4989** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 3:42 AM**

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http://online.wsj.com/articles/new-c...nts-1412627150

"Novartis and Juno are developing their treatments in partnership with top academic teams: Novartis with the University of Pennsylvania and Juno with teams at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York, Seattle Children’s Hospital and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center, also in Seattle."
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They can't finish that addition fast enough ... race for a cure. Dr. June and his team at UPenn, along with that Novartis funded addition - may actually cure blood cancers... not crazy talk, it is a reality. Proud to have them in our backyard.

Lots of press the last few years - and its well warranted:

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/ca...ghting-cancer/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/13/he...anted=all&_r=0

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/10/he...pagewanted=all

They do some amazing stuff at the Proton Therapy center. The Perelman center is world class and when Penn Tower comes down I would expect the additional 700+ rooms to be built in its replacement would flow very nicely with Perelman. (speculative, but 700 room expansion to HUP has been mentioned.)

1487 · #**4990** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 12:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by GarCastle

Folks working in the City page a near equal wage tax to those living there and those commuting in drive on federal roads and take federal railroads for the most part. I cross 1 Philadelphia street, so I don't think I'm exacting "using" the infrastructure. So for my taxes, I am NOT allowed to vote for anything in the city because I am not a resident. That's — and I think you are smart enough to know that. The city property tax is a joke, so yes in one aspect it is a bargain to live in the city.

It's true that at least Philadelphia has a democracy and not a monarch an ocean away, but I still get zero say in what happens despite being taxed. I have no vote towards the taxation and no-one in my demographic (commuters) has a vote towards that taxation. That's taxation without representation. Seems fairly black and white. /shrug Are there actually any benefits to living in the city? Do you get to attend this or that? If so, I doubt I could because I'm not a resident yet I pay the same tax LOL.

Cheers,
G.

The notion that we are owed a vote for every tax we pay is nonsense. You are owed a vote when you live in a particular municipality or state and pay taxes to that state. You are not owed a vote for every tax you pay anywhere in the country. That is ridiculous. In case you didn't realize it, you pay local taxes on hotels, rental cars, sports tickets, amusement park tickets and a host of other things wherever you go in this country. You don't get to pick how that money is spent. In fact, in many states (like Florida) taxing OTHERS is a huge part of the revenue stream. I rented a car in Florida and paid like 15%-20% in state taxes on that car. When you consider how many people come to that state and rent cars its pretty apparent that Florida is able to tax it's residents much less because it brings in so much from outsiders. Of course I have the option of never visiting Florida again if I dont like the fact that I dont get to chose elected officials there. BTW, Id like to know how far we should extend these "rights" to outside taxpayers in philly. Should those who buy drinks at bars, those who pay the 2% city sales tax or those who pay rental car taxes at PHL get to vote in Philadelphia? Also, you dont pay a "near equal" wage tax, you pay like 20% less if you are a commuter.

japmes · #**4991** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 12:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne

Is there only one guy working this construction site? It seems like it has been moving at a snail's pace for years.

Dean4983 · #**4992** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 12:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by japmes

Is there only one guy working this construction site? It seems like it has been moving at a snail's pace for years.

haha I wonder the same thing. I'm pretty sure this looked exactly the same as it did before the boardwalk began.

josef · #**4993** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 1:55 PM**

Took a panorama of 15th & Walnut on the way in today.

Also, wasn't sure where to put it, but here's the AQ from Market Street last night.

br323206 · #**4994** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by GarCastle

Folks working in the City page a near equal wage tax to those living there and those commuting in drive on federal roads and take federal railroads for the most part. I cross 1 Philadelphia street, so I don't think I'm exacting "using" the infrastructure. So for my taxes, I am NOT allowed to vote for anything in the city because I am not a resident. That's — and I think you are smart enough to know that. The city property tax is a joke, so yes in one aspect it is a bargain to live in the city.

It's true that at least Philadelphia has a democracy and not a monarch an ocean away, but I still get zero say in what happens despite being taxed. I have no vote towards the taxation and no-one in my demographic (commuters) has a vote towards that taxation. That's taxation without representation. Seems fairly black and white. /shrug Are there actually any benefits to living in the city? Do you get to attend this or that? If so, I doubt I could because I'm not a resident yet I pay the same tax LOL.

Cheers,
G.

1487's reply is spot on. In addition to everything 1487 said I would also note that those federal highways you drive on are what allowed the tax base to disperse to the hinterland in the first place, draining Philadelphia's revenue stream. One of the biggest reasons Philly needs a wage tax is because of the population and job losses to the suburbs, facilitated by federal spending policies that prioritized suburban sprawl.

Of course there is an easy solution: metropolitan government. If we annex your suburb into the city then you can vote in Philadelphia again. Seems like a fair trade off to me. How about it?

MadhattersLT · #**4995** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 2:39 PM**

I think the people of Montgomery/Bucks/Delaware and Chester counties might have a problem with being annexed

summersm343 · #**4996** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 2:45 PM**

Philadelphia = America's Next Energy Hub

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/philad...cas-next-energy-hub/#RV0UU7v3xpcmbSai.99

mmikeyphilly · #**4997** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 4:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Philadelphia = America's Next Energy Hub

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/philad...cas-next-energy-hub/#RV0UU7v3xpcmbSai.99

Wow...Is this the real deal? I couldn't figure out why they were "glamorizing" pollution? But it sounds massive! Mayor Nutter, are you listening?

josef · #**4998** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by mmikeyphilly

Wow...Is this the real deal? I couldn't figure out why they were "glamorizing" pollution? But it sounds massive! Mayor Nutter, are you listening?

It's an interesting article, and certainly sounds promising, but the half-built outcome is scary. The one where we end up with a ton of industrial pollution but not the promised jobs or regional economic improvement. Hopefully that doesn't end up being the case.

PhiLaw · #**4999** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by summersm343

Philadelphia = America's Next Energy Hub

http://www.phillymag.com/articles/philad...cas-next-energy-hub/#RV0UU7v3xpcmbSai.99

I posted this a while back. Read the whole article. Lots of starts need to align for this to become a reality, but it can happen.

br323206 · #**5000** Posted **Oct 7, 2014, 5:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by MadhattersLT

I think the people of Montgomery/Bucks/Delaware and Chester counties might have a problem with being annexed

I'm sure they would. And they would be wrong about what is best for the region as a whole. And they'll continue to complain about paying a wage tax as they resist efforts to meaningfully reform municipal government in PA.