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Originally Posted by TallCoolOne
"Plans are afoot to create an interior observation deck on one of the top floors of One Liberty Place.
The skyscraper at 16th and Market streets is the second tallest in Center City and the observation deck would reportedly occupy the 57th floor, according to people familiar with the situation. It would have its own dedicated elevator as well as a small cafe to dine in or hold events, they say."
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/...09/observation-deck-for-one-liberty.html |
I've actually been on the observation deck that company manages on top of Tour Montparnasse in Paris. It was neat, It'll be cool to have that in Philly.
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Originally Posted by Londonee
South Jersey is generally full folks who fled South Philly and the Great Northeast during the white flight era. They all raised kids and offspring hating on the big bad city.
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To save time, we'll presume you're talking about the Washington Township types, not the Cherry Hill types, since the interactions, commute patterns, and thus overall experience and associations, change (seemingly exponentially) with distance from the city.
I grew up basically in that area, just a bit north up 42, but still in a ridiculously sprawling suburban development. Really, neither my parents nor anyone I really ever heard growing up hated on the "big bad city". Rather, having essentially cut off contact with it, they stopped understanding how it was changing without them. When I first started going into the city in the late 1990s/early 2000s, my parents were shocked I'd go on the El or Subway. They're not malicious people, they just had this very outdated image of the city in their heads. They were, and continue to be, utterly amazed that people are paying so much money for homes, and I quote, "without even a parking space!" (you have no idea how much effort it takes not to stab my eyes out when they say that).
That said, my parents are not Philly.com commentors. The absurd malice that those people have for the city, I have to imagine, is their way to coping with the fact that the hellish suburban existence they spent their entire lives building up will eventually fail everyone it was meant to be a utopia for. We, the Millennial generation, are largely moving either to cities or to their pre-war, dense suburban towns. And they, when they stop being able to drive, will find themselves incredibly isolated and lonely. There are more abandoned homes and poverty now in the suburbs than there ever was even when I was growing up. I can only imagine that a subset of these people feel some catharsis in maligning the city they themselves abandoned, because they can't help to save their own towns.
That's my take on it, anyway.
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Originally Posted by Londonee
Do other city's, aside from Detroit, have this same tension with their suburban communities? I know NYC, Boston, and SF certainly do not.
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Not in Boston, they don't. Everyone there loves everything Boston all of the time forever. At least that's the feeling I had after living there for four years. But then it's easy to love a winner, right? That said, once you went west of Cambridge and Somerville, I got the feeling most of those people never actually went into the city. I think they just have a positive association with it because, well, it never became a destitute and abandoned city and thus a shame to be associated with.
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