Canadian City Proposals - Page 58

Chadillaccc · #**1141** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 5:13 PM**

Here are my enhanced photos from the unveiling event. They give a pretty clear indication, I think, of the design. However, as stated by Snohetta and Dialogue, the interior and exterior aren't set in stone yet, though the massing and overall shape is set in stone.

NW by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

West by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

SW by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

East by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

Plaza by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

Interior by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

Inside by Chadillaccc, on Flickr

RyLucky · #**1142** Posted **Sep 6, 2014, 5:25 PM**

Think of the Keys-to-the-City Pass like a UPass for your city. The goal is to encourage users to engage with amenities they might otherwise not use, taking ownership in their community. Together, transit, recreation, and the library serve to promote public health and mobility.

Transit Adult: $96/mo --> $1152/yr
Transit Youth: $60/mo --> $720/yr
Transit YEARLY Senior: $95/yr
Transit YEARLY Senior Low-income: $15/year
Transit Adult Low-income: $44/mo --> $528/yr

Anyone can use the library for free, but you must have a card to remove materials.

Adult Library card: $12
Youth: $6
Children: FREE
Seniors: $9

Rec Centres: variable depending on area of city, age, family discounts, etc. Typical tier-1 adult aquatic & fitness centre pass is $432.50/yr

The total price for an adult to have all 3 passes for 1 year is $1596.50. Many people use only transit, so if the city were able to offer an annual Keys-To-The-City Package for $1500, I'm sure a lot people would jump at the chance. Others, only use rec centres and may be more inclined to use transit occasionally if they had the card already. Throw in a round of golf at a city course. Who knows, maybe they would find themselves using a city amenity they otherwise wouldn't have.

Everything on one card.

I think a key to this idea is long-term financial commitment, rather than use-by-use or month-to-month. Cell-phone companies and private gyms have figured this out. This way the city can count on money for the whole year, even if people are away in the summer or leave the city. It also avoids the hassle of getting a new transit pass each month. Also, the city should find other ways to make money once it attracts users. For example, build a cafe or lease space to retailers at every rec centre and library (ie. Booster Juice, Indigo, Starbucks, etc --- currently, this is uncommon in Calgary rec and lib). It may even be worth exploring lifetime memberships - a great gift to a child from grandma/grandpa - something to encourage them to always call Calgary home and feel free to return after years away.

vanman · #**1143** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 7:34 AM**

Calgary's new library looks really good. I like the interior more than the exterior but overall it looks solid. Love the fact that the C-train dives right under the building as well.

Rico Rommheim · #**1144** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 12:21 PM**

New drawings for the Quad Windsor development are in, Looks like a solid 50 floors or so. Montreal may have a new tallest proposal as of now. (thanks to urbmtl for the scoop)

http://www.mtlurb.com/forums/showthr...Windsor/page14

cityguy · #**1145** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 12:28 PM**

That new Montreal tower looks awsome

FrAnKs · #**1146** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:21 PM**

Oh MY MY MY !!
Thats a Jizz-in-my-pants tower !!

Tone · #**1147** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:24 PM**

Whaaaaaat????

SkahHigh · #**1148** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:44 PM**

In that lowest part of Downtown, I think the height limit is 210m so we could have a new tallest!

FrAnKs · #**1149** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:46 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkahHigh

In that lowest part of Downtown, I think the height limit is 210m so we could have a new tallest!

232m - 215m = 17m above the level of the sea.
is that Right ?

Martin Mtl · #**1150** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 1:58 PM**

That looks fantastic !!!

Darkoshvilli · #**1151** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 2:07 PM**

Holy shit! I thought we were getting our usual 120m projects there!

Beedok · #**1152** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 2:27 PM**

Quite nice. Montreal and Vancouver seem to lead in the quality of their buildings. (Not saying everyone else is bad, just those two tend to be even better.)

mr.John · #**1153** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 2:42 PM**

Good to see a company like CF investing heavily in Montreal (even if this tower doesn't go up)

SkahHigh · #**1154** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 3:07 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr.John

Good to see a company like CF investing heavily in Montreal (even if this tower doesn't go up)

It probably will. Just not in the next 2-3 years.

Innsertnamehere · #**1155** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 3:59 PM**

WOW! great design.

All major canadian cities have new tallest proposals right now right?

MTLskyline · #**1156** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 4:08 PM**

It looks good, but I find it a bit on the fat side. I also think that it would look better if it were aligned with St. Jacques Street rather than St. Antoine (I find it is crowding Windsor Station a bit too much).

It also shows what a mistake it was to let the Jardins Windsor be built where it was 10 years ago. If we had simply waited, a much better project would likely have been built there.

GlassCity · #**1157** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 4:13 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

WOW! great design.

All major canadian cities have new tallest proposals right now right?

I don't think Vancouver does.

red-paladin · #**1158** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 4:41 PM**

Wow!

Ramako · #**1159** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 4:52 PM**

Reminds me a lot of the proposal for 156 Front in Toronto (which is also being developed by Cadillac Fairview). Similar bulbous proportions, similar tapered roof, similar curved silhouette:

http://urbantoronto.ca/database/projects/156-front-west

I wonder if they hired the same architect.

waterloowarrior · #**1160** Posted **Sep 7, 2014, 5:55 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ramako

Reminds me a lot of the proposal for 156 Front in Toronto (which is also being developed by Cadillac Fairview). Similar bulbous proportions, similar tapered roof, similar curved silhouette:
I wonder if they hired the same architect.

Same firm designed both buildings - Adrian Smith + Gordon Gill Architecture (AS+GG) http://smithgill.com/ both architects were formerly at SOM