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Old Posted Aug 14, 2014, 4:48 PM
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Hey Marda Loop is still better than the burbs and getting better. But it could use a few more serious boosts of density before I would give it the full-urban seal of approval. Townhomes don't cut it to play with the big dogs like the Beltline.

How are you going to run with the wolves if you spend all day playing with the puppies?
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Agreed, there are still quite a few empty lots along Edmonton trail.
Not really. The East side is getting 2 projects underway soon, and will be nearly filled in except for one small lot I can think of. Lots of room for redevelopment, but not much left for empty lots.
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Hey Marda Loop is still better than the burbs and getting better. But it could use a few more serious boosts of density before I would give it the full-urban seal of approval. Townhomes don't cut it to play with the big dogs like the Beltline.
marda loop is in no-man's land. What marda loop needs is a monorail into downtown. Too far to walk, yet close enough to feel bad about driving etc... just stuck there with no efficient way to get into downtown fast.
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Too far to walk, yet close enough to feel bad about driving etc... just stuck there with no efficient way to get into downtown fast.
ie. just right for cycling.
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marda loop is in no-man's land. What marda loop needs is a monorail into downtown. Too far to walk, yet close enough to feel bad about driving etc... just stuck there with no efficient way to get into downtown fast.
If only there was some sort of street car system that ran through Marda Loop.
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If only there was some sort of street car system that ran through Marda Loop.
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Old Posted Aug 17, 2014, 11:27 PM
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Hey Marda Loop is still better than the burbs and getting better. But it could use a few more serious boosts of density before I would give it the full-urban seal of approval. Townhomes don't cut it to play with the big dogs like the Beltline.

How are you going to run with the wolves if you spend all day playing with the puppies?
It's not really fair to compare any non-Downtown neighborhood with the Beltline. A more appropriate comparison would be between Marda Loop and places like Sunnyside, Hillhurst, Inglewood, and Bridgeland. In that company, Marda Loop holds it's own, if slightly lags behind.
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Hey Marda Loop is still better than the burbs and getting better. But it could use a few more serious boosts of density before I would give it the full-urban seal of approval. Townhomes don't cut it to play with the big dogs like the Beltline.

How are you going to run with the wolves if you spend all day playing with the puppies?
I agree that Marda area isn't quite able to sustain an identity like Mission, Inglewood, or Kensington yet. A few more thousand people would help. Also, a bit better transit would go a long way.

I'm curious to see how development of Currie Barracks affects Marda Loop. Another 11 000 residents, mostly living in high-ish density developments, many of whom are likely to frequent Marda Loop stores and restaurants, pass through Marda loop on foot, bike, and bus...


Marda Loop and Currie Barracks are the gateway drugs of urbanism for empty-nester surburbanites looking to reform their ways. Join the dark side!!
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If only there was some sort of street car system that ran through Marda Loop.
It is called a bus. I get the emotional appeal of streetcars, but the cost for performance is awful.
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It is called a bus. I get the emotional appeal of streetcars, but the cost for performance is awful.
More realistically, Marda might get improved transit via BRT on Crowchild as part of a MRU - Downtown - Forest Lawn route.

As things are, 7 and 107 are ok (but get fucked by 14th st - they can ramp up frequency as demand increases), 20 is frequent but gets fucked by Crowchild, 18 is ok but lacks frequency. I've never tried 63. More priority for busses around town would definitely improve transit.
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It is called a bus. I get the emotional appeal of streetcars, but the cost for performance is awful.
I think he was referencing the Marda Loop streetcar that once existed.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2014, 2:54 PM
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ie. just right for cycling.
Strongly agree.
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ie. just right for cycling.
I think a place like Marda loop would be great to experiment with some form of express cycle route using side streets with stop signs for opposing crossings and traffic calming to keep cars from using it as a fast road. Create as direct a route as possible to downtown. It doesn't need to be a full on cycle track, just a pleasant safe riding experience. Its only about 5km, it should be an easy sell to residents.
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Old Posted Aug 18, 2014, 3:29 PM
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I think a place like Marda loop would be great to experiment with some form of express cycle route using side streets with stop signs for opposing crossings and traffic calming to keep cars from using it as a fast road. Create as direct a route as possible to downtown. It doesn't need to be a full on cycle track, just a pleasant safe riding experience. Its only about 5km, it should be an easy sell to residents.
If you create a few routes that give priority and easy access across 14th street into Mt. Royal, it would be very simple to connect to 8th Street, 11th Street SW and others. Similar to the Route 13 right now.

The problem is two-fold though; Mt. Royal isn't a very simple neighbourhood for route-finding so measures have to be put in place there + either end has no infrastructure as of yet that meets the high-quality standard that would attract riders: no lanes on 8th, 11th Street lanes stop at 12th ave and would need to be extended to Mt. Royal, no lanes and high-speed traffic in Marda Loop and all side roads, no priority to cross 14th Street.

These are all inexpensive problems to fix, just it would take some political will to actually get it done.
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And that's all I'm suggesting! Seams mostly like cheap fixes with big payoffs.
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The amount and quality of infill(duplexes,4plex, townhouse, low-rise) in and around Marda Loop is ridiculous. The main strip is still pretty small, but retail extends to Garrison, and I've noticed there's a bunch of new shops one block south of 33rd ave now too.
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Old Posted Aug 19, 2014, 3:15 AM
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It is called a bus. I get the emotional appeal of streetcars, but the cost for performance is awful.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2014, 8:01 PM
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Saw this on Calgary Herald today, looks like the sales growth in condos is starting to outpace SFH.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/Ca...t+booming+sales+soar/10136811/story.html

It really seems like Calgary residents are really ahead of the curve at embracing condo living.
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Old Posted Aug 21, 2014, 9:52 PM
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Interesting, multi-family sector likely in for a record setting year, also some talk about the demographic drivers behind the numbers.

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Calgary resale condo market booming as sales soar

Pace of MLS annual sales growth outstripping single-family homes

BY MARIO TONEGUZZI, CALGARY HERALD AUGUST 21, 2014

CALGARY - Calgary’s resale condo market is booming these days with the annual growth in transactions far outstripping the pace in the single-family sector.

That is also sparking what could be a record year for new construction in the multi-family segment of the housing market.

“The market for Calgary condos has been strong through 2014. It’s up over 20 per cent year-over-year and we expect demand to continue as buyers and the inventory available becomes more sophisticated,” said Linda Lam, a real estate associate with Sotheby’s International Realty Canada, who has sold condos in both the resale and new condo markets in the city. “We’re seeing more demand from local buyers who are increasingly aware of the benefits of the condo lifestyle: convenience, security, unique amenities and proximity to the city’s downtown.

“The Calgary economy is also attracting professionals from cities like Vancouver and Toronto, who regard Calgary condos as affordable and attractive alternatives to the highly-developed condo markets they are coming from. At the same time, pre-sale condo developments like The Guardian are attracting buyers and investors not only locally, but from other major cities, as Calgary’s real estate market becomes renowned as a stable place to invest.”

The record year for Calgary condo sales was in 2006 with 8,390 MLS transactions - 4,721 condo apartments and 3,669 condo townhouses.

In 2013, there were 7,181 condo sales made up of 4,005 condo apartments and 3,176 condo townhouses.

Year-to-date, up to August 20, there have been 3,232 condo apartment sales, up 21 per cent from last year, and 2,565 condo townhouse sales, up 20 per cent.

“With the single-family market there has been a lot less listings in the lower price ranges,” said Ann-Marie Lurie, CREB’s chief economist. “So for those people who are looking for product in those lower price ranges, they’re considering their alternatives which include the condo apartment and condo townhouse markets. That’s where a lot of that demand has been because most of the product is in that price range. That doesn’t necessarily exist as much in the single-family.”

She said there is also a factor of a tight rental market and high rents existing in the city currently.

“A lot of consumers are moving into ownership and typically what they look at is the condo-type product because it’s more affordable,” said Lurie.

In July, the city had 2,336 MLS sales, up 3.18 per cent from a year ago. But that was mainly due to a hike in the condo market. Single-family home sales dropped by 1.27 per cent to 1,553 units while condo apartment sales grew by 11.84 per cent to 444 transactions and condo townhouse sales were up by 15.31 per cent to 339 units.

That trend is continuing this month as condo apartment sales have increased by 18 per cent from last year and condo townhouse sales are up by nearly 25 per cent. So far this month, the average sale price for a condo apartment has risen by almost 14 per cent to $344,907 while it has jumped by nearly 17 per cent for condo townhouses to $376,305. Meanwhile, single-family home average sale prices are up by more than four per cent to $542,602.

The luxury condo market has also been strong this year. Year-to-date, there have been 40 sales of $1-million plus properties - 17 condo apartments and 23 condo townhouses. In 2013, a record year, there were 73 luxury condo sales made up of 35 apartments and 38 townhouses.

The demand in the condo market is also being felt in new construction.

According to a forecast by Canada Mortgage and Housing Corp., multi-family starts in the Calgary census metropolitan area will reach 9,000 units this year, a hike of 45.6 per cent from last year.

The most recent high for multi-family starts was 7,051 units set in 2008. Last year, there were 6,182 multi family starts.

“A number of things are prompting construction so far in 2014. First of all we’ve seen some strong demand for housing. Employment has been strong in Calgary along with net migration,” said Richard Cho, senior market analyst in Calgary for the CMHC. “Another factor prompting activity has been inventories. Inventories have come down fairly low historically and that’s also giving opportunities for builders to increase construction this year.”
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Old Posted Aug 22, 2014, 9:47 PM
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Noticed BL's building an on-site sales centre at Orchard. You know what that means, shovels in the ground in 2017!
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