HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada


Closed Thread

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #9761  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:21 AM
Witty Nickname's Avatar
Witty Nickname Witty Nickname is offline
Look up, Waaaaaay up
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary
Posts: 2,348

Skyline par Witty Nickname, on ipernity
__________________
I am Calgarian!
My photos on Flickr
     
     
  #9762  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:21 AM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is offline
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cala Ghearraidh
Posts: 22,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by dleung View Post
I'm gonna be that "you-forgot-to-count-x" guy who reminds you that West Van has 77 highrises per 100,000
I knew I was forgetting a couple! Thanks.


Also just of note, I was only doing cities with 10 or more per 100 000.
__________________
Strong & Free

Mohkínstsis — 1.6 million people at the Foothills of the Rocky Mountains, 400 high-rises, a 300-metre SE to NW climb, over 1000 kilometres of pathways, with 20% of the urban area as parkland.
     
     
  #9763  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:23 AM
dleung's Avatar
dleung dleung is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 6,554
^^lol I was just joining the pick-apart-the-stats bandwagon
     
     
  #9764  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:33 AM
Metro-One's Avatar
Metro-One Metro-One is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Japan
Posts: 17,978
If only there was some way to give the edge back to Toronto... hmm, to the proposals!
__________________
Bridging the Gap
Check out my Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30634635@N03/with/29495547810/ and Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0_0h9qKlhxXFxuAey_q6Q
     
     
  #9765  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 3:10 AM
Nouvellecosse's Avatar
Nouvellecosse Nouvellecosse is offline
Volatile Pacivist
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Nova Scotia
Posts: 11,307
Quote:
Originally Posted by Klazu View Post
I haven't been to Victoria (yet, need to get down there), but that is unexpected! I didn't expect Victoria to have many high-rises at all!
It's just because Victoria has such a small city limits which contains under a quarter of the metro area that it's per capita measure seems high.
__________________
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw
Don't ask people not to debate a topic. Just stop making debatable assertions. Problem solved.
     
     
  #9766  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 3:15 AM
Klazu's Avatar
Klazu Klazu is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Above Metro Vancouver clouds
Posts: 10,407
Quote:
Originally Posted by Metro-One View Post
If only there was some way to give the edge back to Toronto... hmm, to the proposals!
     
     
  #9767  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 6:27 AM
Surrealplaces's Avatar
Surrealplaces Surrealplaces is offline
Editor
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Cowtropolis
Posts: 20,264
From last week's forest fire smoke

Calgary smokey cityscape by Surrealplaces, on Flickr


Calgary Smoke by Surrealplaces, on Flickr
     
     
  #9768  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 11:29 AM
middeljohn middeljohn is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Burlington, ON
Posts: 1,681
I think a more accurate measurement would be average highrise height per 100k people. The reason being that, hypothetically, if a city of 100,000 all lived in one building, they would be 1 highrise/100k, which would give an impression that it's very sprawled out. Total highrise height divided by population should be more accurate.
     
     
  #9769  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 12:25 PM
caltrane74's Avatar
caltrane74 caltrane74 is offline
gettin' rich!
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 34,204
The fact that Victoria and Toronto are basically tied shows how useless this measure is..
     
     
  #9770  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:19 PM
travis3000's Avatar
travis3000 travis3000 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Simcoe County, ON
Posts: 6,506
Yeah such a dumb list. Like Victoria VS Toronto? LOL. Ok then.
     
     
  #9771  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:27 PM
Beedok Beedok is offline
Exiled Hamiltonian Gal
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,795
Quote:
Originally Posted by middeljohn View Post
I think a more accurate measurement would be average highrise height per 100k people. The reason being that, hypothetically, if a city of 100,000 all lived in one building, they would be 1 highrise/100k, which would give an impression that it's very sprawled out. Total highrise height divided by population should be more accurate.
It would be good in some ways, and iffy in others. I was more wondering about the amount of area covered by the skyline, not population density.

Quote:
Originally Posted by caltrane74 View Post
The fact that Victoria and Toronto are basically tied shows how useless this measure is..
Have you seen Victoria's skyline? It's impressive for its size. I thought it would suffer from a focus on mid-rises, but apparently not. I suppose you'd feel the measure was just as useless if we were trying to see if Toronto had more highrises per capita than Chicago or Vancouver?
     
     
  #9772  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:27 PM
middeljohn middeljohn is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Burlington, ON
Posts: 1,681
Delete
     
     
  #9773  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:33 PM
middeljohn middeljohn is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Burlington, ON
Posts: 1,681
Based off data from here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=211628

Total highrise height:
Quote:
1. Toronto - 31 207 meters
2. Calgary - 9292 meters
3. Montreal - 6655 meters
4. Vancouver - 5075 meters
5. Edmonton - 1846 meters
6. Winnipeg - 590 meters
7. Ottawa - 325 meters
Toronto should come out on top by a wide margin (these are just for the core cities)
     
     
  #9774  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:36 PM
Metro-One's Avatar
Metro-One Metro-One is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Japan
Posts: 17,978
No more useless than any other measuring system we have discussed. In fact this one is pretty straight forward, the number of tall buildings / people living in an area. Using the metro populations is a better estimate as was done for Metro Vancouver and Metro Toronto.

I am sure if Toronto came on top the tune would be a little different. Can't win ever stat.

This is no more silly (in fact a little less arbitrary) than # of meters of 150m, 100m, 80m, 35.6m, etc.. lists

Again, from the list above, at what height did you cut it off, 100 meters? 50 meters?? 12 stories (the common definition of a high rise)
__________________
Bridging the Gap
Check out my Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30634635@N03/with/29495547810/ and Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0_0h9qKlhxXFxuAey_q6Q
     
     
  #9775  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 1:46 PM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is offline
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cala Ghearraidh
Posts: 22,842
That list is for a cutoff of 100 meters. The traditional definition of a highrise is 35 meters, with skyscrapers at 100 meters.
__________________
Strong & Free

Mohkínstsis — 1.6 million people at the Foothills of the Rocky Mountains, 400 high-rises, a 300-metre SE to NW climb, over 1000 kilometres of pathways, with 20% of the urban area as parkland.
     
     
  #9776  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:17 PM
Metro-One's Avatar
Metro-One Metro-One is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Japan
Posts: 17,978
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beedok View Post
It would be good in some ways, and iffy in others. I was more wondering about the amount of area covered by the skyline, not population density.



Have you seen Victoria's skyline? It's impressive for its size. I thought it would suffer from a focus on mid-rises, but apparently not. I suppose you'd feel the measure was just as useless if we were trying to see if Toronto had more highrises per capita than Chicago or Vancouver? ;)
Toronto didn't win this time, so the methodology must be flawed, or pointless
__________________
Bridging the Gap
Check out my Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/30634635@N03/with/29495547810/ and Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCV0_0h9qKlhxXFxuAey_q6Q
     
     
  #9777  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:22 PM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is offline
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cala Ghearraidh
Posts: 22,842
Photos by Polish forum moderator Wroclaw during his visit to Calgary last week!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Wroclaw View Post


__________________
Strong & Free

Mohkínstsis — 1.6 million people at the Foothills of the Rocky Mountains, 400 high-rises, a 300-metre SE to NW climb, over 1000 kilometres of pathways, with 20% of the urban area as parkland.
     
     
  #9778  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 2:54 PM
caltrane74's Avatar
caltrane74 caltrane74 is offline
gettin' rich!
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 34,204
Quote:
Originally Posted by Beedok View Post
It would be good in some ways, and iffy in others. I was more wondering about the amount of area covered by the skyline, not population density.



Have you seen Victoria's skyline? It's impressive for its size. I thought it would suffer from a focus on mid-rises, but apparently not. I suppose you'd feel the measure was just as useless if we were trying to see if Toronto had more highrises per capita than Chicago or Vancouver?
I don't doubt "Victoria's skyline? It's impressive for its size", but, the height cut off it's arbitrary.
     
     
  #9779  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 3:06 PM
Chadillaccc's Avatar
Chadillaccc Chadillaccc is offline
ARTchitecture
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Cala Ghearraidh
Posts: 22,842
With Victoria's tallest height (66 meters) set as the minimum height for buildings in the calculations, we have...


Vancouver - 44
Toronto - 26
__________________
Strong & Free

Mohkínstsis — 1.6 million people at the Foothills of the Rocky Mountains, 400 high-rises, a 300-metre SE to NW climb, over 1000 kilometres of pathways, with 20% of the urban area as parkland.
     
     
  #9780  
Old Posted Jul 22, 2014, 3:21 PM
caltrane74's Avatar
caltrane74 caltrane74 is offline
gettin' rich!
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto
Posts: 34,204
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chadillaccc View Post
With Victoria's tallest height (66 meters) set as the minimum height for buildings in the calculations, we have...


Vancouver - 44
Toronto - 26
Toronto only has 26 buildings over 66 meters? I'm not sure I understand this one...
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Closed Thread

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Regional Sections > Canada
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 5:40 AM.

     

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.