The Great Canadian Skyline Thread! II

[Chadillaccc]

Yeah the smoke just cleared yesterday, thanks to our first rain in two weeks.

[Delirium]

that's a pretty cool shot. Because of the smoke you can't tell where the city ends so it looks huge. glad to hear its cleared.

if Vancouver had no False creek..

Photo by Sweet One on Flickr https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2916/14463435967_0b7177f861_h.jpg

[suburbanite]

These Vancouver shots over the past week have been something else. Love how we're starting to see more peaks breaking the table-top.

[Beedok]

Does Vancouver have the highest highrise to population ratio in Canada? It really seems like it.

[middeljohn]

For city propers yes.

Toronto = 69 highrises per 100k

Vancouver = 107 highrises per 100k

Source: calculations based wikipedia stats.

For metro regions Toronto should still take the cake though.

[Metro-One]

I think it will still be a close race, there are many high rises in Metro-Vans burbs as well.

[The Chemist]

Originally Posted by Symz

I was just in Calgary/Banff this past week and I couldn't get over how much smoke there was. They had closed the highway to Jasper once or twice while we were in Banff, which made doing some Jasper stuff a bit out of the question for us.

Yeah, it sure was bad in Calgary at the end of last week. On Friday I went out to Banff and on the drive out you couldn't even see the mountains when coming down from Scott Lake Hill on the Trans Canada.

Just as an idea of how bad it was, the air quality in Shanghai was better than that of Calgary for much of last week (though to be fair, Shanghai's air has been very good recently, and this was a really bad week for Calgary, so all we can say is that Shanghai's best is better than Calgary's worst )

[middeljohn]

It should be interesting. I could calculate based off emporis data, far too lazy to do that right now though haha. Isn't this where Chad pops in with his math? Haha.

[Chadillaccc]

I came up with a number of 128 highrises per 100 000 in the City of Vancouver, and 76 per 100 000 for the City of Toronto. My figure included only buildings over 35 meters UC and Complete.


Vancouver - 610 000 - 128
Toronto - 2.8 million - 76
Victoria - 80 000 - 66
Ottawa - 900 000 - 45
Montreal - 1.7 million - 38
London - 370 000 - 37
Waterloo - 100 000 - 37
Calgary - 1.1 million- 31
Edmonton - 900 000 - 30
Windsor - 210 000 - 25
Hamilton - 530 000 - 22
Halifax - 420 000 - 22
Winnipeg - 700 000 - 21
Regina - 210 000 - 20
Kitchener - 230 000 - 20
Saskatoon - 230 000 - 19
Quebec City - 520 000 - 12
Kelowna - 120 000 - 11
Gatineau - 270 000 - 11



Suburbs

New Westminster - 70 000 - 109
North Vancouver - 80 000 - 75
Burnaby - 240 000 - 71
Richmond - 200 000 - 71
Mississauga - 750 000 - 35
Coquitlam - 130 000 - 28
Burlington - 190 000 - 24
Richmond Hill - 200 000 - 19
Oakville - 200 000 - 18
Markham - 320 000 - 16
Laval - 400 000 - 14
Brampton - 530 000 - 13
Vaughan - 300 000 - 12

Originally Posted by middeljohn

It should be interesting. I could calculate based off emporis data, far too lazy to do that right now though haha. Isn't this where Chad pops in with his math? Haha.

LMAO! Shit. I didn't see this till I was already done

[dleung]

Originally Posted by middeljohn

For city propers yes.

Toronto = 69 highrises per 100k

Vancouver = 107 highrises per 100k

Source: calculations based wikipedia stats.

For metro regions Toronto should still take the cake though.

Interesting. I would have thought it'd be the other way around with Vancouver having proportionally less for city proper and more for metro given all it's satellite skylines and the fact that Toronto's famous apartment blocks are all within the city proper.

Originally Posted by Beedok

Vancouver seems to almost completely consist of the highest quality filler buildings in the country. It's beautiful but lacks focus.

"Filler" is a unique-to-skyscrapercity/page term used to put a positive spin on ugly buildings.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I came up with a number of 128 highrises per 100 000 in the City of Vancouver, and 76 per 100 000 for the City of Toronto. My figure included only buildings over 35 meters UC and Complete.


Vancouver - 610 000 - 128
Toronto - 2.8 million - 76
Victoria - 80 000 - 66
Ottawa - 900 000 - 45
Montreal - 1.7 million - 38
London - 370 000 - 37
Waterloo - 100 000 - 37
Calgary - 1.1 million- 31
Edmonton - 900 000 - 30
Windsor - 210 000 - 25
Hamilton - 530 000 - 22
Halifax - 420 000 - 22
Winnipeg - 700 000 - 21
Regina - 210 000 - 20
Kitchener - 230 000 - 20
Saskatoon - 230 000 - 19
Quebec City - 520 000 - 12
Kelowna - 120 000 - 11
Gatineau - 270 000 - 11



Suburbs

New Westminster - 70 000 - 109
North Vancouver - 80 000 - 75
Burnaby - 240 000 - 71
Richmond - 200 000 - 71
Mississauga - 750 000 - 35
Coquitlam - 130 000 - 28
Burlington - 190 000 - 24
Richmond Hill - 200 000 - 19
Oakville - 200 000 - 18
Markham - 320 000 - 16
Laval - 400 000 - 14
Brampton - 530 000 - 13
Vaughan - 300 000 - 12

Looks like with suburbs Vancouver absolutely triumphs.

Originally Posted by dleung

"Filler" is a unique-to-skyscrapercity/page term used to put a positive spin on ugly buildings.

That's not what I mean. To me it means unremarkable buildings. Usually because they're of average height for the skyline/area they're in. Aura for instance isn't great, but there's no way you could consider it filler, it's a landmark. Many of Vancouver's condos are lost in a sea of other condos, but look very nice when a picture is taken specifically of them.

I figured that was how everyone else was using it.

[Metro-One]

I took it as a positive comment. The best thing is some of the best quality buildings in Vancouver are u/c or soon to be u/c (Trump Vancouver, the MNP tower, the Credit Suisse tower, Vancouver House, Burrard Gateway, etc...)

Yeah, Vancouver's suburbs have always been pretty impressive regarding their high-rises, to me it helps create that metropolis feeling.

[dleung]

I was criticizing the word itself (too often used to justify buildings with no redeeming value other than the amount of sky it can block). His comments are spot on though

[MonkeyRonin]

According to Emporis, Greater Toronto has a total of 2,714 high-rise buildings of all types, while Greater Vancouver has 1,158. Using 2011 CMA populations of 5,583,064 and 2,313,328, Toronto has 48.6 buildings/100,000 people, while Vancouver has 50.1/100,000.


This is kind of silly though.

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I came up with a number of 128 highrises per 100 000 in the City of Vancouver, and 76 per 100 000 for the City of Toronto. My figure included only buildings over 35 meters UC and Complete.


Vancouver - 610 000 - 128
Toronto - 2.8 million - 76
Victoria - 80 000 - 66

If you used the Old City of Toronto (~750,000 people) before amalgamation, you'd get a very different number. Likely around 200.

[Klazu]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I came up with a number of 128 highrises per 100 000 in the City of Vancouver, and 76 per 100 000 for the City of Toronto. My figure included only buildings over 35 meters UC and Complete.


Vancouver - 610 000 - 128
Toronto - 2.8 million - 76
Victoria - 80 000 - 66
Ottawa - 900 000 - 45
Montreal - 1.7 million - 38
London - 370 000 - 37
Waterloo - 100 000 - 37
Calgary - 1.1 million- 31
Edmonton - 900 000 - 30
Windsor - 210 000 - 25
Hamilton - 530 000 - 22
Halifax - 420 000 - 22
Winnipeg - 700 000 - 21
Regina - 210 000 - 20
Kitchener - 230 000 - 20
Saskatoon - 230 000 - 19
Quebec City - 520 000 - 12
Kelowna - 120 000 - 11
Gatineau - 270 000 - 11

I haven't been to Victoria (yet, need to get down there), but that is unexpected! I didn't expect Victoria to have many high-rises at all!

But yeah; Vancouver, Metro Vancouver and Vancouver suburbs are all kings of high-rises, no matter how you spin the numbers. It's such a great city for a SSPer to live in.

[MonkeyRonin]

Originally Posted by isaidso

If you used the Old City of Toronto before amalgamation, you'd get a very different number. Around 350.

Only if all of Toronto's 2,209 high-rises were in the old city. It's probably more like half that, so it'd be somewhere around ~150/100,000.

[dleung]

Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

I came up with a number of 128 highrises per 100 000 in the City of Vancouver, and 76 per 100 000 for the City of Toronto. My figure included only buildings over 35 meters UC and Complete.


Vancouver - 610 000 - 128
Toronto - 2.8 million - 76
Victoria - 80 000 - 66
Ottawa - 900 000 - 45
Montreal - 1.7 million - 38
London - 370 000 - 37
Waterloo - 100 000 - 37
Calgary - 1.1 million- 31
Edmonton - 900 000 - 30
Windsor - 210 000 - 25
Hamilton - 530 000 - 22
Halifax - 420 000 - 22
Winnipeg - 700 000 - 21
Regina - 210 000 - 20
Kitchener - 230 000 - 20
Saskatoon - 230 000 - 19
Quebec City - 520 000 - 12
Kelowna - 120 000 - 11
Gatineau - 270 000 - 11



Suburbs

New Westminster - 70 000 - 109
North Vancouver - 80 000 - 75
Burnaby - 240 000 - 71
Richmond - 200 000 - 71
Mississauga - 750 000 - 35
Coquitlam - 130 000 - 28
Burlington - 190 000 - 24
Richmond Hill - 200 000 - 19
Oakville - 200 000 - 18
Markham - 320 000 - 16
Laval - 400 000 - 14
Brampton - 530 000 - 13
Vaughan - 300 000 - 12


LMAO! Shit. I didn't see this till I was already done

I'm gonna be that "you-forgot-to-count-x" guy who reminds you that West Van has 77 highrises per 100,000

[isaidso]

Originally Posted by MonkeyRonin

Only if all of Toronto's 2,209 high-rises were in the old city. It's probably more like half that, so it'd be somewhere around ~150/100,000.

Yeah, I just thought of that. I'd say around 1500 of that 2209 are in the Old City of Toronto though.

[dleung]

^^The old city of Toronto is only half the size of Vancouver proper relative to their respective metros, so isn't a great comparison either. And Toronto proper is twice the size of Vancouver proper relative to metro, so what can you do lol