[Halifax] Nova Centre | 65-58-58 m | 16-15-14 fl | Completed

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by counterfactual

Fenwick, you should consider sending this email to Ramia et al. I'm not sure of the basis of his lawsuit-- media reporting on its details have, as usual, been crap-- but this is no doubt helpful.

Again, does anyone have a link to a story with more details on the lawsuit? I've seen it described as Ramia asserting HT is going "beyond its mandate".

That's a much different thing that arguing that Pacey et al are guilty of libel.

Maybe the libel lawsuit is just wishful thinking on my part (I removed the reference to a libel suit from my post). However in a Chronicle Herald story the following is written:

(source: http://thechronicleherald.ca/business/1218047-taylor-ramia-sues-heritage-trust-for-damages)

The company is also seeking general damages arising from the defendants’ “negligent actions and intentional intimidation of the defendants as it relates to the project.”

Additionally, Argyle is asking the court for punitive damages “arising from the unlawful acts of the defendants by ignoring the mandates and objectives of the Heritage Trust and instead embarking on an intentional campaign to hinder, delay, interfere and obstruct the project.”

Representatives of the heritage organization have maintained that the height of some Nova Centre structures will be violating the heritage views of Halifax Harbour from Citadel Hill.

Ramia has maintained that the Nova Centre complex has been designed to comply with viewplane rules and that people who say otherwise are misrepresenting the facts.

I think that spreading false statements is part of the Heritage Trust's strategy to turn public opinion against the convention centre as shown in the following screen capture from the Save the View website. I previously posted the screen-capture images from the WHW report to show that the convention centre does not violate the view-plane by-laws, and it was not put in the Land Use By-Law at the request of Rank Inc but that the convention centre and hotel/office complex idea originated with a WHW study conducted for the municipality.

(source: - http://www.savetheview.ca/)

[Spire]

Originally Posted by Colin May

Any evidence to support your last paragraph assertions ?
I thought he was from a Lebanese family going back to the early 1900's.

Joe Ramia was born in Lebanon and moved to Canada with his family when he was nine.

http://www.atlanticbusinessmagazine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/v23n6_developer.pdf

[Udon'tknow]

Hello Haligonians,

I normally post in the Regina thread, but I was recently in your fine city and snapped a pic of this development so thought I would post it. Looks like an exciting project, will be great to see it rise from the ground.

I really enjoyed my time in Halifax, it's a great city full of friendly people! Cheers!

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Udon'tknow

Hello Haligonians,

I normally post in the Regina thread, but I was recently in your fine city and snapped a pic of this development so thought I would post it. Looks like an exciting project, will be great to see it rise from the ground.

I really enjoyed my time in Halifax, it's a great city full of friendly people! Cheers!

If any of the usual suspects heard you saying anything nice about the CC project, they wouldn't be so friendly!

[fenwick16]

There is a bit of construction information in the following story - http://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/nova-scotia-h...th-developers-over-nova-centre-1.1896799. Apparently the next step in the construction is the erection of steel (2,000 tons according to a previous story in the allnovascotia.com). I remember reading that it was scheduled to begin the end of May (so it is a bit behind). I wonder if the steel members have been already been fabricated at Cherubini Metal Works?

[Colin May]

Originally Posted by Spire

Joe Ramia was born in Lebanon and moved to Canada with his family when he was nine.

http://www.atlanticbusinessmagazine.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/v23n6_developer.pdf

My request for evidence did not relate to his roots but to the part which asserted ' hatred because of...... '
The poster has provided no evidence to support the assertion of 'hatred ' of Mr Ramia.

[Ziobrop]

Cherbuni is doing the work, and when I drove by earlier there were some girders in the yard. I was told a large crawler crane would be installing them, so when that shows up, installation is close.

[fenwick16]

Originally Posted by Ziobrop

Cherbuni is doing the work, and when I drove by earlier there were some girders in the yard. I was told a large crawler crane would be installing them, so when that shows up, installation is close.

Thanks for the information. The steel construction will likely proceed quickly. It should be exciting to watch.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Colin May

My request for evidence did not relate to his roots but to the part which asserted ' hatred because of...... '
The poster has provided no evidence to support the assertion of 'hatred ' of Mr Ramia.

Read anything by your boy, Bousquet, on the subject.

[Jonovision]

From yesterday

[Jonovision]

Found this alternative design. The base looks beautiful. A good use of wood or metal is. But that massive slab of a building would have not been good in my opinion.







https://www.behance.net/gallery/7176035/NOVA-CONVENTION-CENTRE

[Drybrain]

DAAAAMMMNN.

I like that a LOT better. The arrangements of windows along Grafton is awesome, and I love the wood. (I love wood in modern architecture generally—adds an organic, human touch to the stark lines and angles.) Far superior, and I like the existing design.

[connect2source]

WOW this one is far more current to today's architectural trends. LOVE the wood, it's speaks 'eco' and leed-gold. Overall looks very Scandinavian and far more progressive and less hodgepodge.

[Drybrain]

Well, let's just be glad this isn't what we're getting.

[terrynorthend]

Originally Posted by Jonovision

https://www.behance.net/gallery/7176035/NOVA-CONVENTION-CENTRE

I'm particularly impressed by the forest they were planning to plant on Citadel Hill!

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

Well, let's just be glad this isn't what we're getting.

Oh, the CBC design. They persisted in using that image on every website story up to a few months ago. I think their web editor was a member of the Heritage Trust.

[Keith P.]

Originally Posted by connect2source

WOW this one is far more current to today's architectural trends. LOVE the wood, it's speaks 'eco' and leed-gold. Overall looks very Scandinavian and far more progressive and less hodgepodge.

I don't like the wood and the overall design on the Argyle St elevation. I think it works better on the Grafton arcade and on the hillside facings.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by Keith P.

Oh, the CBC design. They persisted in using that image on every website story up to a few months ago. I think their web editor was a member of the Heritage Trust.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by Drybrain

DAAAAMMMNN.

I like that a LOT better. The arrangements of windows along Grafton is awesome, and I love the wood. (I love wood in modern architecture generally—adds an organic, human touch to the stark lines and angles.) Far superior, and I like the existing design.

I *completely* agree. That is AWESOME.

WTF happened to this design? Was it ever pitched? Where did it come from?

I see that it was done for Rank. So, it means, Ramia et al rejected it inhouse?

This would have been an iconic building / development, like the Central Library, had this design been chosen.

Some daring architecture there. Love the wood, love the covered street.

The Nova Centre we're getting is pretty boring, TBH.

[counterfactual]

Originally Posted by terrynorthend

I'm particularly impressed by the forest they were planning to plant on Citadel Hill!