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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 12:55 AM
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The recent widening of highway 417 in the West end of Ottawa doesn't have Ontario tall-wall barriers in the GTA. When it was a 4-lane highway there was a big grass median, but now there's what looks like the box-beam barrier like in those pictures, but bigger on the right/hand side of each direction and a grass/gravel median between those. And there are some places where there's no barriers at all, just a gravel strip between the oncoming lanes of traffic. Anyone know why they didn't build a tall-wall there instead?
Tallwall isn't warranted through Kanata because the carriageways don't directly abut each other. Given the separation between the lanes and the rather deep median, crossover collisions shouldn't pose much of an issue.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 12:57 AM
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Are they replacing the old dividers with those horrid white concrete monster?

I HATE those things and in Ontario they seem to be taller than in other places. Ontario has ruined so much of the pleasure of it's roadways with those concrete monsters. They make me feel like I'm in a tunnel and totally block out the views on the other side of the road.

I understand the safety issue but I swear Ontario's are taller than anywhere else I've been especially outside of a big city.

Travelling the huge medien of the 402 is very nice and the entire 401 stretch from Windsor to Brockville has become a dreary and ugly affair. If people visiting think they are in a concrete jungle I can't say I would blame them.
You're crazy and not a true highway aficionado. Views are fine but highways can be aesthetically pleasing to the eye too. The median barriers in Ontario look great. They're practically seemless and if they're not cast-in-place, they sure look like it. The median barriers in BC look bush league
     
     
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New Aerial pics of the 401 extension in Windsor

https://www.flickr.com/photos/hgparkway/

Dedicated thread: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=188722
^lots o' tunnels.
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 1:24 AM
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Is the Canadian Government covering the full cost of the Detroit River Bridge?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 2:12 AM
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The bridge is being paid for by tolls. The approaching ramps on both the US side and Canadian side, as well as the Canadian border control plaza, are paid for by the Federal Government. The connecting highway in Windsor, which is the only portion currently under construction, is paid for partly by the Federal government but primarily by the Provincial government. Its probably the single largest road project in North America right now, the total cost is something nuts like $5 billion.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 2:18 AM
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Canada is waiting and hoping the U.S. Government will pony up $250 million for the cost of the U.S. plaza.

Here's an article talking about it
http://blogs.windsorstar.com/news/automa...-groups-call-on-obama-to-fund-dric-plaza
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 12:02 PM
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You're crazy and not a true highway aficionado. Views are fine but highways can be aesthetically pleasing to the eye too. The median barriers in Ontario look great. They're practically seemless and if they're not cast-in-place, they sure look like it. The median barriers in BC look bush league
They are poured in place. I've seen them be poured during the 417 expansion project which my daily commute allows me to watch quite intently through the bumper-to-bumper
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 17, 2014, 1:11 PM
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Are they replacing the old dividers with those horrid white concrete monster?

I HATE those things and in Ontario they seem to be taller than in other places. Ontario has ruined so much of the pleasure of it's roadways with those concrete monsters. They make me feel like I'm in a tunnel and totally block out the views on the other side of the road.

I understand the safety issue but I swear Ontario's are taller than anywhere else I've been especially outside of a big city.

Travelling the huge medien of the 402 is very nice and the entire 401 stretch from Windsor to Brockville has become a dreary and ugly affair. If people visiting think they are in a concrete jungle I can't say I would blame them.
You're crazy and not a true highway aficionado. Views are fine but highways can be aesthetically pleasing to the eye too. The median barriers in Ontario look great. They're practically seemless and if they're not cast-in-place, they sure look like it. The median barriers in BC look bush league
Just because he has a different opinion does not mean he is 'crazy and not a true highway aficionado'.

I would generally agree that 4 lane highways are fine with a wide grass median. When you get to 6 or more, a tall wall / Jersey barrier is a good choice. Many sections also have a left shoulder so you're not driving right next to it which can feel a little scary and give you that 'tunnel feel' in the leftmost lane.


As for the 401 extension, the feds are paying for 100% of the bridge to USA but will get 100% of the tolls until it is paid for.
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Libtard is likely a troll who has actually been banned before on SSP. He has a bizarre obsession with jersey barriers and use to go off on tangents about them. He played it cool under this new avatar for a long while but his jersey barrier ticks are starting to come out again.

He also hates anything to do with highways in BC, it makes no difference what is built on BC (regarding any new project) he always has a problem with them and will find the most bizzare things to nit pick at.

One funny occurance was when he said that the concrete on the new port Mann bridge was bad because it looked "water stained" This was after the concrete had just been poured (and therefore would likely still bleed a little) and was a picture from a rainy day!

Also, he got upset when he first thought that the Port Mann deck was going to be concrete, which ended up not being the case. But then on the thread regarding the new Bay Bridge in San Fran he was praising that crossing for using concrete and not asphalt. So concrete on the Port Man equaled cheap and bad, but on the Bay Bridge equalled nice!

I also laughed when he got made at the kicking horse project for "cutting into the mountains" (making terraces with rocks) and claimed this scared the landscape and nowhere else would build highways like that (even though I see that practice used in every mountainous area I have ever been to in the world).

Some of these were under his old names, I think one of the them was something volt or volt something, another had a highway sign as the avatar. It gets hard to keep track.
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^ I know how trivial the idea of highway barrier aesthetics are... but I agree. I think BC has terrible looking barriers as well. I am not a big fan of pre-cast highway barriers (Ontario uses them too, and while their incarnation, imo, is favourable to that of BC's, they don't look nearly as nice as the cast in place ones), BC's are particularly ugly. Concrete weathers poorly in BC as well. From my observations, it doesn't seem to take long for the concrete to have a very weathered grungy appearance. Granted, I don't think that has anything to do with BC itself, as its just a factor of the climate, as concrete in Washington state seems to look the same way, but I still find it ugly.
     
     
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Its easy to pick on BC highways (it pains me to say because I'm from BC)they are easily the worst in the country imo. So many are under built and poorly designed. Whenever something new is built in BC its almost always built to minimum standards with zero thought of future expansion (yes there are a few exceptions). Vancouver has made some improvements recently, but really the road system in Vancouver is still very Mickey mouse. Any of the recent improvements are things that should of happened 25 years ago imo.
     
     
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This is from the northern section of Highway 40 in Alberta, from Grande Prairie to Hinton. This is a wild spectacular drive. Lots of areas to pull off for camping. but also a lot of O&G exploration going on. The old growth forests south of GP is quite something to see. Rare do you see trees that big in Alberta anymore. The wildness is the other interesting find. even though we did not see large wild life or see the woodland Caribou that are in that region there was still plenty to see.

Even though it was only about 340 kms from GP to Hinton we took well over 5 hours because of all the stopping we did.

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Old Posted Jul 27, 2014, 8:28 PM
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What are the top 3 most common out-of-province license plates people see in their area?

For me in Vancouver its

1. Alberta
2. Washington
3. California
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 27, 2014, 8:42 PM
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In Ottawa?

1) Quebec
2) Quebec
3) Quebec

I swear, sometimes there's more Quebec plates than Ontario plates on some roads.
     
     
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For Thunder Bay, it's Minnesota, Manitoba and Alberta. Quebec and Wisconsin are fairly common, and Iowa isn't too unusual.
     
     
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The Thunder Bay Expressway plan consultants held an open house last week, and they published the schematics from the 1990s plans to develop interchanges along the expressway. The PDF file that contains them is over 80MB in size (due to using an aerial photo mosaic as a backdrop) so I cropped the individual interchanges out. North is toward the top right corner in each image.

All of these are plans from the early 1990s, so they're not necessarily what will be built.

Travelling from South to North:


Arthur Street Intersection, a diamond interchange was proposed.


Harbour Expressway Intersection. At the time this plan was drawn up, the Shabaqua Extension (the road heading toward the top of the image) had yet to be built.


Northwest Arterial, a road that has yet to be built or even named but was proposed back in the 1970s, would replace the intersections at John Street and Oliver Road (which would become flyovers).


Red River/Dawson. Work had actually started on this interchange just before the 1995 election, and after the PCs won it was cancelled. They got as far as demolishing houses and cutting down trees to build ramps. The trees have since grown back...


Balsam Street. Just to the right of the image, the current divided highway begins, which is why the study ends here. This interchange would re-route Balsam to connect directly to Wardrope Avenue, which itself eventually bends to connect to the Northwest Arterial, forming a sort of ring road around the northwest part of the city.

The entire route will be a divided four-lane road heading south to the airport. Traffic projections show that six-laning isn't warranted, the road isn't projected to reach capacity until the mid 2040s. The right of way is wide enough for a 6 lane road along its entire length, and up to 8 lanes in a few spots.
     
     
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Will it be built to 400 series standards? (100km/h speed limit)

Interesting, that is for sure.

6 lanes is unlikely to be needed in TB anyway, its too small of a city still.
     
     
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It will be fully grade separated and divided for nearly 20 kilometres, so I assume that once all the interchanges are in place it will be up to 400-series standards. I am not sure if the planners have decided exactly what specifications it will have. They're reducing the number of intersections so a speed limit of 100 would be more than acceptable. Traffic already travels over that limit anyway.
     
     
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What are the top 3 most common out-of-province license plates people see in their area?

For me in Vancouver its

1. Alberta
2. Washington
3. California
Around London:

1) Michigan (by a long shot: they must be 1:20 cars on the 401 on weekends)
2) New York
3) Ohio
4) Quebec
5) Pennsylvania
6) Alberta
7) Illinois
8) Uzbekistan

We don't have any freeways, except on the southern fringes.
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