South Fraser Perimeter Road/Highway 17 Extension | Completed - Page 167

Metro-One · #**3321** Posted **Jun 30, 2014, 8:11 AM**

Yep, it is quiet asphalt to reduce vehicle noise for the surrounding houses (up on the hills / bluffs).

Quite asphalt on other projects as well, such as the Sea to Sky when it goes through more residential areas.

Zassk · #**3322** Posted **Jun 30, 2014, 5:05 PM**

Yup it is in place through Lions Bay. You really notice the change when you hit it.

wrenegade · #**3323** Posted **Jun 30, 2014, 7:32 PM**

If it's the same stuff as Lions Bay/Squamish, it is most certainly NOT poorer drainage. The drainage of that type of asphalt is AMAZING. It's such a nice change driving those sections in the wintertime. There is absolutely no standing water and barely any road spray from cars ahead. I really wish the whole highway was paved like it.

Zassk · #**3324** Posted **Jun 30, 2014, 9:55 PM**

It is more porous (and therefore less dense) than regular asphalt, from what I understand, and is considered more environmentally friendly as well, since it allows for a normal water table underneath.

jlenko · #**3325** Posted **Jul 2, 2014, 7:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

So is the temporary traffic light also removed in that section? If so this is a little ahead of schedule is it not? I thought they said it would be there for a year.

No, the light is still there.

What's changed, it no longer narrows to one lane. So accidents like that motorcyclist getting smoked trying to merge a few weeks ago won't be happening anymore.. with idiots racing up the right lane and diving in at the last second in front of big trucks. Stupid decision to implement it in the first place.

madog222 · #**3326** Posted **Jul 2, 2014, 8:34 PM**

In the BC highway speed limit review SFPR is listed under "Additional highways for further assessment" with a note that recommends the 50km/h zone be increased to 70km/h.

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/publications/rep...al_Hwy_Safety-Speed_Review_technical.pdf
page 64 of pdf

go_leafs_go02 · #**3327** Posted **Jul 2, 2014, 11:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by madog222

In the BC highway speed limit review SFPR is listed under "Additional highways for further assessment" with a note that recommends the 50km/h zone be increased to 70km/h.

http://www.th.gov.bc.ca/publications/rep...al_Hwy_Safety-Speed_Review_technical.pdf
page 64 of pdf

That's a nice nugget, so probably see that go up to 70 km/h and then the rest up to 90 or 100 km/h. Also good to see they're looking at the Surrey-Abbotsford portion of Highway 1 to go up, probably to 110 to match what now is found from Abbotsford-Hope.

Drove Hope to Langley today, all the signs have been changed, and gasp, speeds didn't change, there were no accidents, and traffic flowed very well.

SpongeG · #**3328** Posted **Jul 3, 2014, 5:59 PM**

driving around edmonton yesterday makes the sfpr look sad, the anthony henday is amazing and the amount of work to complete the ne section is insane, never seen such an amazing infrastructure going up. even the whitemud is great and limit was about 80, a.h. was 100

cabotp · #**3329** Posted **Jul 4, 2014, 6:13 AM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

So is the temporary traffic light also removed in that section? If so this is a little ahead of schedule is it not? I thought they said it would be there for a year.

The traffic light is still there. And the speed limit is still 60 km/h in that section.

Best part is I drove through there late at night yesterday and me about 10 other vehicles did 100-110km/h through that section.

officedweller · #**3330** Posted **Jul 7, 2014, 7:23 AM**

From the PMH1 website June 25, 2014:

http://www.pmh1project.com/info-centre/w...n-Ears-Connector-Construction-Updat.aspx

Canadian Mind · #**3331** Posted **Jul 7, 2014, 2:56 PM**

Just expressing my personal views, since SFPR was completed, it's made travelling to and from the island with a trailer in tow and during rush hour much easier. If I'm not towing a load and it isn't rush hour, I still prefer Horseshoe Bay.

DKaz · #**3332** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 1:05 PM**

Only one hill to deal with -- 176 St.

It appears they are preparing to lengthen the left turn lane from King George Blvd onto Bridgeview in Surrey. Finally.

Metro-One · #**3333** Posted **Jul 8, 2014, 1:14 PM**

Thanks to the combination of the SFPR and the Golden Ears Bridge, driving time to and from the ferries must have been cut nearly (if not completely) in half. Again, especially in rush hour.

Before: Crossing the Pitt River Bridge, taking the Mary Hill bypass, onto the #1 for a couple kms (or United Boulevard which ends with a 1 lane bridge), driving through New West, over the Queensburough Bridge, take the 91 to the 99, take the 99 through the tunnel, then finally onto the 17 to the ferry.

Now: Cross the GEB, continue taking GEW, take the SFPR, there!

This is why not all new roads / bridges are bad things. They can greatly increase connectivity and help a region grow strategically.

proudcanuck · #**3334** Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 7:36 PM**

Another truck rollover accident at Hwy 17 & Hwy 91 Connector. This time it was going from Hwy 17 WB to Hwy 91 Connector EB. Gravity and likely speed major factors. Putting off an interchange here was a very bad idea.

http://pic.twitter.com/yVEcF63xwM

logicbomb · #**3335** Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 7:43 PM**

Definitely.

However, it's worth noting that truck drivers on the SFPR are absolutely insane. I sometimes go 100km/hr and still get passed and cut-off by trucks.

cabotp · #**3336** Posted **Jul 9, 2014, 11:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by logicbomb

Definitely.

However, it's worth noting that truck drivers on the SFPR are absolutely insane. I sometimes go 100km/hr and still get passed and cut-off by trucks.

The SFPR can easily handle 100KM/h. The problem is some drivers seem to think you can make a left turn at 100KM/h

Most likely this stupid driver and the one previous raced to get through the advanced left turn green arrow. And voila we have a flipped tractor-trailer.

Whalleyboy · #**3337** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 5:49 AM**

while SFPR is fine for cars at 100 I would say 80 is about right for the trucks. Since they all drive like idiots already. I drive this route every day to work. The amount of times I've almost be side swiped but trucks is ridiculous. Especially at that intersection.

VancouverOfTheFuture · #**3338** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 6:41 AM**

was the 91 connector supposed to have a full interchange? if so, does anyone have any plan on what it would have looked like? some schematic or something, i would be quite interested in seeing it.

cabotp · #**3339** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 12:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Whalleyboy

while SFPR is fine for cars at 100 I would say 80 is about right for the trucks. Since they all drive like idiots already. I drive this route every day to work. The amount of times I've almost be side swiped but trucks is ridiculous. Especially at that intersection.

I've always wondered why BC doesn't implement the same thing that I have seen in the states of Washington and California. Where there is one speed limit for trucks and a different speed limits for smaller vehicles.

Metro-One · #**3340** Posted **Jul 10, 2014, 12:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by VancouverOfTheFuture

was the 91 connector supposed to have a full interchange? if so, does anyone have any plan on what it would have looked like? some schematic or something, i would be quite interested in seeing it.

Not full full (it would not have been free flow to go from the SFPR to the 91 as in the SFPR and 99) but the SFPR itself would have been free flow. I believe it was a diamond interchange.

In a way the bright side is this leaves it open for a true free flow interchange incorporating both the SFPR and the 91 to be build in the future. I am guessing such an interchange would be pretty large (maybe similar in scale to the Cape Horn?)