YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[Gordon]

The Federal Government is reviewing the Canadian Transportation Act, including competitiveness.

I'd like to see WS change SFO & ORD to year around to bring some competition to those routes.

Gates B13 and B14 seem to be out of service. are they removing the doubel headed bridges?

[Genauso]

Originally Posted by Gordon

The Federal Government is reviewing the Canadian Transportation Act, including competitiveness.

I would take that to mean something like allowing Mexican truckers to continue their routes all the way into Canada. Although the bill is primarily coming up from a decade of railway disasters, record profits and an impotent regulator.

You're not going to see the Federal government relax any of their incomes from air travel. They definitely will be cautious in forcing domestic airlines to take on service that loses them money, or in allowing foreign competitors threatening the same by undercutting artificially squeezed mainline routes. If Air Canada or WestJet collapsed, they'd lose politically no matter their response. Besides, our domestic airlines will have a lot more opportunities to become strong and expand into the world as air traffic moves away from Europe basically. The 787s are just arriving and the 777s on the horizon look even better.

I don't know what it will cost them, but the proposed visa free travel for continuing passengers is something worth hoping for in the near term.

[craneSpotter]

Originally Posted by phesto

Doesn't surprise me about Allegiant dropping Hawaii. Two different couples that I know that were looking to go to Hawaii on a 'cheaper than YVR budget' last year opted for SEA over Allegiant/BLI because of the aircraft and departure/arrival times.

Sadly, I think this will give WS and AC breathing room to increase fares on the YVR-Hawaii routes. They have been offering some very low fares over the past 12 months...hopefully I'm wrong!

Add us, we were doing the same last winter and ended up driving right through Bellingham on to SEA for the same reasons. Didn't help that some people were referring to Allegiant planes as 'torture tubes' either...

Prices to Hawaii for this coming 2014/15 winter season do seem to be higher than they were over the past few years. Not sure if that is a result of the changes at BLI. We are switching back to AS for the next two trips - YYJ via SEA - because of the US/CAD exchange and the AS annual companion fares that don't exclude Hawaii (Alaska Airlines MC)

[Johnny Aussie]

Happy Canada Day from Singapore. It's July 1st here already.

I almost couldn't believe my eyes. 10% growth overall... Wow!

Overall up 10.0% YTD 8.4%
Domestic up 7.2% YTD 6.9%
Transborder up 12.3% YTD 8.9%
Asia Pacific up 16.9% YTD 13.2%
Europe up 10.0% YTD 10.4%
Misc Int'l up 6.0% YTD 3.6%

In pax terms that's 57,000 more domestic, 43,000 more transborder, 35,000 more Asia Pacific, 11,000 more Europe, 1,400 more Misc Int'l. Overall up approx 148,000 pax from May 2013. That's huge growth.

If this trend continues, and it should, YVR should record its first 2M pax month in August. July should come close but not quite.

Cargo also showing decent 5.3% growth in May.

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/rpt_Traffic_Update_may_2014.sflb.ashx

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Happy Canada Day from Singapore. It's July 1st here already.

I almost couldn't believe my eyes. 10% growth overall... Wow!

Overall up 10.0% YTD 8.4%
Domestic up 7.2% YTD 6.9%
Transborder up 12.3% YTD 8.9%
Asia Pacific up 16.9% YTD 13.2%
Europe up 10.0% YTD 10.4%
Misc Int'l up 6.0% YTD 3.6%

In pax terms that's 57,000 more domestic, 43,000 more transborder, 35,000 more Asia Pacific, 11,000 more Europe, 1,400 more Misc Int'l. Overall up approx 148,000 pax from May 2013. That's huge growth.

If this trend continues, and it should, YVR should record its first 2M pax month in August. July should come close but not quite.

Cargo also showing decent 5.3% growth in May.

http://yvr.ca/Libraries/Aviation_Marketing/rpt_Traffic_Update_may_2014.sflb.ashx

It'll be a banner year when YVR hits the 20 million pax mark. It's coming sooner or later, more like sooner than later if this trend keeps up.

[Gordon]

Does any one know what he 2014 pax no's are for bli

[spaceprobe]

saw a plane which said on the side Republique Francaise at yvr today. Does anyone know what it is/what is it doing? Doesn't look like air france!

[madog222]

Originally Posted by spaceprobe

saw a plane which said on the side Republique Francaise at yvr today. Does anyone know what it is/what is it doing? Doesn't look like air france!

French Air Force, a quick google brings up only this so it isn't an unusual event.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41645839@N00/13457139004/
from the comments

Originally Posted by My16SidedOffice

They've been in quite a few times now over the past couple months.

[spm2013]

In March it stopped in Honolulu then Vancouver and then to Paris.

F-RAJA (msn 075), an A340-212 belonging to the French Air Force's (Armée de l'Air) Commandment du Transport Aérien Militaire Français (COTAM), has been making stops at HNL recently. According to FlightRadar24.com, flies from HNL to YVR, then CDG. F-RAJA departed HNL this morning as "COTAM1018" (above), and was seen last Thursday parked at Gate 34.

Most recent one was from Paris and F-RAJB:

http://www.flightradar24.com/reg/frajb

[red-paladin]

Transporting diplomats perhaps?

[craneSpotter]

Originally Posted by Gordon

Does any one know what he 2014 pax no's are for bli

2014 probably won't be very good year for them - c/y 2013 BLI saw only +3.3% pax growth over 2012. So quite a bit slower than the 13% growth 2012 had over 2011.

According to the RITA/BTS from April 2013 to March 2014 BLI had a slight drop in traffic (US flights only, but they don't have international AFAIK). http://www.transtats.bts.gov/airports.asp?pn=1&Airport=BLI

[craneSpotter]

Aspiring airline Canada Jetlines plans TSX Venture listing in hunt for capital

July 2, 2014 - Financial Post

Canada is one step closer to having a new airline after Canada Jetlines Ltd. announced plans to raise $10-million and list on the TSX Venture Exchange.

The fledgling carrier has entered into a letter of intent with a capital pool company called Inovent Capital Inc. under which it will negotiate a reverse takeover that would give Jetlines access to the stock market.

Under the proposed deal, Inovent aims to raise $10-million prior to Jetlines’ listing on the Venture Exchange.

Hope they raise the capital, be interesting to see a ULCC from Canada.. they may find a niche if they pick the right routes... and have slick advertising!

[spm2013]

Originally Posted by red-paladin

Transporting diplomats perhaps?

Seems pretty expensive to transport diplomats but seems plausible unless there's some secret CIA prison in Vancouver that we don't know about.

[casper]

Originally Posted by craneSpotter

Aspiring airline Canada Jetlines plans TSX Venture listing in hunt for capital

July 2, 2014 - Financial Post



Hope they raise the capital, be interesting to see a ULCC from Canada.. they may find a niche if they pick the right routes... and have slick advertising!

I don't quite understand. In the article it said this is the brain child of "Tim Morgan, who has been running charter airline Enerjet since 2006". I thought Enerjet was a low-cost value focused airline that was suppose to service undeserved western Canada cities to places like Mexico and Las Vegas.

The airline Tim founded on this model is not executing on the model so he is found another airline? I don't know much about the airline industry but this sounds weird? Perhaps Enerjet and this new ailine will someday merge?

[Johnny Aussie]

As expected AC will launch its second 787 route from YVR to NRT effective 15 December replacing the daily 763.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/07/03/ac-yvrnrt-w14/

The PVG and NRT routes will rotate through YVR.

The full 787 sched... So far...

AC4 will arrive from NRT at 10:40 and AC25 will depart to PVG at 12:10
AC26 will arrive from PVG at 12:25 and AC3 will depart to NRT at 14:25

This represents an approx 19% increase in seats on both routes.

[craneSpotter]

Originally Posted by casper

I don't quite understand. In the article it said this is the brain child of "Tim Morgan, who has been running charter airline Enerjet since 2006". I thought Enerjet was a low-cost value focused airline that was suppose to service undeserved western Canada cities to places like Mexico and Las Vegas.

The airline Tim founded on this model is not executing on the model so he is found another airline? I don't know much about the airline industry but this sounds weird? Perhaps Enerjet and this new ailine will someday merge?

You should read the article again Hmm by your posts I just assumed you worked for Westjet...

At the end of the article about Jetlines they mention another potential ULCC that was just recently announced by the charter airline enerjet founder (and westjet cofounder) Tim Morgan to be called Jet Naked or something... or maybe he's just blowing smoke?? Dunno I'm not involved in the industry, just a follower.

[Kapten]

Another airline, Jet Naked, is planning to launch Canadian service soon as an ULCC. Apparently this airline will have a management team with experience at Spirit and WestJet...

[casper]

Originally Posted by craneSpotter

You should read the article again Hmm by your posts I just assumed you worked for Westjet...

At the end of the article about Jetlines they mention another potential ULCC that was just recently announced by the charter airline enerjet founder (and westjet cofounder) Tim Morgan to be called Jet Naked or something... or maybe he's just blowing smoke?? Dunno I'm not involved in the industry, just a follower.

Your right, though it is weird.

I have never worked for either WestJet or Air Canada. For work I spent a lot of time as a passenger on both Air Canada and WestJet. For over a decade I was Air Canada Elite passanger, now it is hit and miss mostly because I evenly balanced between airlines as a passanger. I had a bit of involvement in airline reservation systems many years ago but thing have changed quite a bit since then.

[Valley_Refugee]

Confirming long-swirling rumours, WestJet just announced they will begin flying widebodies in (probably) fall 2015. First routes will be Alberta-Hawaii. I imagine we can expect to see some European routes in summer 2016 and some YVR routes generally.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/business/We...rcraft+move+increase/10008070/story.html

[stiffdeadman]

"quality used aircraft" sounds like 767-300's. sure they can find some cheap ones as 787's start replacing them with other airlines.