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Old Posted Jun 30, 2014, 8:53 PM
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Have any game studios been out to the track to map it? I would love to see the track in Forza or Gran Turismo.
It was in a F1 game a couple years ago.
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Circuit of the Americas says tax bill nearly $5 million too high

By Marty Toohey - American-Statesman Staff


The managers of Austin’s Circuit of the Americas race track are arguing the $7 million-plus property-tax bill they receive in January is more than 2½ times higher than it should be, an assertion disputed by the arm of the local government that sets property values.
The two sides have been in district court since the fall, and Wednesday, in a separate hearing, Circuit of the Americas will argue that government appraisers are trying to overvalue the track for the second year in a row.

At stake is roughly $5 million that would be split between the city, county, health care district, Austin Community College and the Del Valle school district.

Circuit of the Americas president Jason Dial declined to speak to the specifics of the case, citing the ongoing lawsuit. But he said the tax bill would require the track to add $50 in taxes for each ticket sold.

Travis Central Appraisal District chief Marya Crigler said the district stands by its determination that the track was worth $273 million in 2013, but likewise said she could not speak to many of the case’s specifics because it is in court.

“The Circuit of the Americas is a unique and complex property to appraise,” she has said.

Track critics said the dispute speaks to the larger debate about whether Texas’ property appraisal system is weighted too heavily in favor of large businesses, at the expense of homeowners.

“They’re basically saying that Travis County homeowners should pay higher taxes to cover what (the circuit) wants us to think it shouldn’t have to pay,” said Bill Aleshire, possibly the loudest Circuit of the Americas critic. The former county judge and tax-office chief added: “It’s ridiculous that after going around telling everyone what an asset to the tax base they would be, and getting tens of millions in tax breaks on the notion they are such an economic boon, that they would turn around and argue it isn’t really worth that much.”


The 3.4-mile-track has hosted the United States Grand Prix, for which it was built, the past two Novembers. In addition, it has staged the internationally televised X Games and Moto GP, among other events. The venue is about 1,500 acres total and also includes a 14,000-seat amphitheater. The Statesman is a corporate sponsor of the amphitheater.

Circuit of the Americas has been widely praised for its efficient staging of the events. The track has, quite literally, brought international attention to Austin and, according to its supporters, brought millions of dollars to the city. But it remains a polarizing bit of Austin civic life, mainly because of the up to $25 million in state tax incentives the track expects to collect each year for its first 10 years, along with discounted utilities and other enticements the city offered to get the track built after a series of protracted, contentious debates. Track critics say those incentives should not be going to a private event.

The cost to build the circuit has been reported anywhere from $300 million to $450 million. The eight pages’ worth of court records filed so far provide few details as to how Circuit of the Americas determined how much the track is worth, and how that differs from the appraisal district’s conclusions. The track’s lawyers submitted only a one-page letter to the appraisal district in May 2013 requesting an unspecified lower value, according to the appraisal district.

At the end of 2012 the appraisal district determined the track was worth $273,110,489, making its property-tax bill $7,349,949.48, according to Travis County Tax Office records.

The track paid $2,751,972.89 on time, according to the tax office. The rest of the bill, $4,597,976.59, is based on inaccurately high valuing of the property, according to Circuit of the Americas. Based on the $2.8 million in taxes they have paid, the owners have apparently decided the track is worth roughly $102 million.

Dial, the Circuit of the Americas president, said the bill accompanying a $273 million value “translates to over $50 in taxes per ticket sold. That $50 tax would be on top of sales tax and other applicable taxes. This is an excessive tax burden placed on Austinites attending or wanting to attend events at Circuit of The Americas and Austin360 Amphitheater.”

The court challenge is based on the argument that the track has not been appropriately compared to similar properties. State law allows commercial properties to be appraised based on the median value of “a reasonable number” of comps. Such a comparison has not happened, according to the lawsuit. It’s not clear from the court records what properties track managers think should be used in the comparison.

As of Tuesday, Circuit of the Americas also owed $827,635.80 in late penalties and interest, in addition to the $4.6 million still unpaid from the January bill. But tax office spokeswoman Tiffany Seward said the penalties will ultimately depend on the outcome of the lawsuit. The track is not delinquent on its taxes, according to the tax office.

The appraisal district contends the track is now worth $289,242,788, the amount on which the bill arriving next January would be based.

— This story has been updated to clarify an unclear description of the Circuit of the Americas incentive agreement with the state.
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But he said the tax bill would require the track to add $50 in taxes for each ticket sold.
Gotta love the fear mongering right there.
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KVUE: Haywood's Hill offers alternate view of #Austin fireworks:

http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/201...ves-to-circuit-of-the-americas/12204247/

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ELROY – The Austin Fireworks show typically held out at Auditorium Shores is moving just this year to the Circuit of the America's track in Elroy.

Auditorium Shores is undergoing renovation.

Some of the outer parking lots at the COTA track are free to people coming for fireworks, however the closer in lots are charging $10 a car.

When neighbor Donald Haywood heard the later he wanted to jump on the band wagon.

On Friday, Haywood will also be charging cars and R.V.'s $10 to park on his property.

Haywood lives on Elroy Road and has a bird's eye view of the racetrack.

What the former Marine and APD Officer calls Haywood's Hill is his 10-acre tract of land he bought as a place to retire and he says he has room for anyone who wants to come out.

"They can bring their barbecue pits out. They can set up and barbecue. They can bring canopies. They can bring their coolers," added Haywood.
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2014, 3:58 PM
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Gotta love the fear mongering right there.
Errr...yeah. Some of our Facebook followers caught that too & did a little math.

https://www.facebook.com/gpamericas

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Tom Nickols "Dial, the Circuit of the Americas president, said the bill accompanying a $273 million value “translates to over $50 in taxes per ticket sold."

It sure sounds like Mr. Dial needs to sell more tickets.
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Tom Nickols "That $50 tax would be on top of sales tax and other applicable taxes. This is an excessive tax burden placed on Austinites attending or wanting to attend events at Circuit of The Americas and Austin360 Amphitheater.”

No. We're not stupid. We won't buy this doublespeak. That tax burden isn't being placed on the citizens. The unreasonable tax burden being placed on the citizens comes in the form of hundreds of millions in corporate welfare being doled out to cota.
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Cathy Olive My favorite blogs today from the AAS:

If they are saying that the tax bill would raise the cost of all tickets by $50, that would imply that they only sell 92,000 tickets for all their events in the entire year. Boy, it must be a shame to be such a failure.

Wasn't paying their taxes included in their business plan? Who do they expect to pick up the slack if those with money don't pay their taxes? And how much are they spending on lawyers to get out of paying their taxes?

The county and city should move to condemn the property, pay the owners the $102 million they think it's worth, plus $25k in moving expenses to haul their tails to Oklahoma. The city could then sell the place for $300 mm or contract a partner to run it as a revenue generator.
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Luca Costa Very interesting Cathy. So even if the total tax bill were divided by $50, that still only amounts to 147000 tickets. Does anyone have any idea how many tickets COTA say they've sold?
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GP Americas Luca and Cathy: I can't tell what attendance total Dial is using to come up with that number. According to COTA, 2013 race day ticket sales alone was around 250K. As y'all have demonstrated, it looks like his math suggests they've sold far fewer than that.
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Cathy Olive I have no idea Luca. I do think the 50 thing is a childish threat. I do know the fire dept ask for one crummy dollar from each ticket sold to help with the fact they are not getting paid to protect COTA. That was a hell no. As one man said paying your taxes should have been included in your business plan.






This quote from the article also generated a lot of discussion:
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" Based on the $2.8 million in taxes they have paid, the owners have apparently decided the track is worth roughly $102 million."
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Cathy Olive COTA's close to taking 100 million out of the trust fund. That is our sales tax dollars folks and still they can't paid there property taxes. Wake up and smell the coffee. After bragging it's worth 400 million now they tell the county the value's REALLY only 102 million.
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Ward Merrell Millions of fans? You must count attendance for Cota.
Cota has collected ten of millions via the various event trust funds. They have failed in their restoration projects. They have not hired a single person from Elroy or Del Valle. They are having new roads built at the expense of local tax payers. They owe venders from the last F1 race. And they are telling investors and anyone that will listen, the track is a 400 million dollar facility. It don't really matter. They won't make it past the next F1 race. Banks want their money, and they don't have it.
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Cathy Olive “It’s ridiculous that after going around telling everyone what an asset to the tax base they would be, and getting tens of millions in tax breaks on the notion they are such an economic boon, that they would turn around and argue it isn’t really worth that much.” .....LMAO
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Tyler Young Any amount will probably seem too high
when you don't have any money...
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Bernard Ortiz It’s posturing because they don’t have the money to pay that particular bill. They cheaped out on the F1 tickets last year (going to the horrible, embarrassing ticketmiser paper tickets from the nice proper holographic ones the year before. Their financial problems partly stem from them being greedy (Tevo/Schwantz/etc) and the consequences they’ve had as a result (the Bernie tax went from $20M to $30M, had to pay Tevo and now Schwantz millions to go away), not to mention the harm this has had to them from a PR standpoint. Maybe the new management will help things out, but they have a deep hole to dig out of….
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I wonder what TMS in Ft Worth is appraised at?
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I wonder what TMS in Ft Worth is appraised at?
Read page 23 at http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc2610/m2/1/high_res_d/problieu.pdf
As of 1999 tax year, it's appraised at $65 million, paying a total over $1.25 Million in property taxes each year.
But they only spent $120 to $140 million building TMS back in the mid 1990s.

I have no idea what it is appraised at now, but I believe it is safe to assume it is higher because of the improvements they have made over the years.

An additional fact, the City of Fort Worth built and owns the track - not Speedway Motorsports which operates and leases the track.

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COTA is getting ripped to shreds on their Facebook page over the Fireworks show. I don't expect them to leave the comments up to much longer:

https://www.facebook.com/CircuitofTheAmericas
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COTA is getting ripped to shreds on their Facebook page over the Fireworks show. I don't expect them to leave the comments up to much longer:

https://www.facebook.com/CircuitofTheAmericas
Whew.. Glad we didn't end up going. That sounds like a nightmare to get out of there. No way would that have worked with my family (3 kids under 6)...
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We went to my sister's in Del Valle. The traffic was pretty bad just past the airport, but after 130 it cleared out. I took some photos and video of the fireworks since you can see the observation tower at COTA from their front porch. You can see the red light on the tower in the bottom right of these pics.













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COTA is getting ripped to shreds on their Facebook page over the Fireworks show. I don't expect them to leave the comments up to much longer:

https://www.facebook.com/CircuitofTheAmericas
Yeah when I and another guy corrected them/Dial for saying Simona would be the first ever full time female F1 driver, they took those comments down pretty quick. Tools. They rarely make a press release without at least one error, usually related to racing.



Re: the fireworks, I was wondering if this was gonna blow up. Vance watched the traffic jam from Haywood's Hill that night. I had no idea people were stuck out there that late though.

'Parking fail': Thousands left in COTA parking lot for hours after fireworks show:
http://www.kvue.com/story/news/local/2014/07/05/thousands-faced-traffic-nightmare-at-cota/12255937/
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Check out the comments from their facebook page. They probably took most down by now. When I and another guy corrected them/Dial for saying that Simona would be the first ever full time female F1 driver, they took those comments down pretty quick. Tools. They rarely make a press release without at least one error, usually related to racing.

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Vance Facundo I watched the Fireworks show from Camping on Haywood's Hill and skipped the traffic mess. I was home in 5 minutes. Haywood's Hill dot com.
Like · Reply · 7 hours ago · Edited

Circuit of The Americas Hey everyone, we are so sorry to hear that some of you had trouble exiting after the event last night. Thanks so much for the feedback. Your comments help us make improvements for the future.
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Erica Hutton I wouldn't have brought my 3 month old to this event if I knew there would be no traffic control. 2 hrs, haven't moved an inch. (Fireworks and symphony were great... But not worth this)
Like · Reply · 10 · Yesterday at 12:05am · Edited

Tim Zeimann There's an APD unit wandering around through the parking lot. How about some traffic handling? Going on two hours and still have barely moved.
Like · Reply · 8 · July 4 at 11:44pm · Edited

Adam Orendain Worst traffic management and vendor organization I've ever experienced. 1 hour wait for food only to have them run out. I feel conflicted about venting because the event was free but take it as a voice of possible improvement.
Adam Orendain's photo.
Like · Reply · 8 · July 4 at 11:17pm

Carla Gandara-Reynolds Horrible!!! Parking/event staff should all be fired...been in parking lot over 2 hours and barely out. Stupid!!!
Like · Reply · 7 · Yesterday at 12:09am

Tim Zeimann Worst event planning ever, no traffic control to get out of here whatsoever. Sitting in one spot without moving for over an hour. #epicfail #trafficnigtmare
Like · Reply · 7 · July 4 at 11:00pm

Robert Friedrich Terrible planning, or perhaps there was none?! 2 hours to exit an event; there are no words for it. NEVER AGAIN.
Like · Reply · 6 · Yesterday at 12:56am

Danny Snyder Why isn't TCSO running the traffic control for this event? Austin Police Dept obviously has no idea what they're doing.
Like · Reply · 6 · July 4 at 11:06pm

Christel Coleman As usual Austin, no one thought about the logistics of moving traffic for an event this size
Like · Reply · 6 · July 4 at 10:55pm

Steve Williams Performance was great and so were the fireworks. Traffic management on the way out was the worst of any event I've been to here. We've been sitting in Lot A for at least 30 minutes
Like · Reply · 6 · July 4 at 10:38pm

Jill Honken Sitting in a line of traffic not moving for a hour! Where's the cops or event staff to direct traffic?!?
Like · Reply · 5 · July 4 at 10:58pm

Steve Williams Amy - I have been there for events with almost 10x the number of people and the longest it took to get out was 30 minutes.
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Lucina Martinez All I have to say is never again..im happy we left Lot F before the fireworks started, parked a ways down in a empty lot on COTA to enjoy the fireworks& then we zoomed out. Only to find Elroy Rd was filled to the T up&down with parked cars off 2 the side to watch the show. I see why, & started to realize with all them leaving+the Parking lots at COTA. I knew traffic was going 2 be a disaster. How did they possibly plan this event&truly think they would fit the Audotorium Shores crowd here? Yes it was free, definitely not worth it. Extremely Overwhelming& we were only in the gates 4 an hr.
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Amy Regner Cloudt So how about a thank you to HeB, and Austin symphony orchestra for putting on an FREE event. Even if it cost us sitting in traffic for an hour or two
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Katalina Pierce I like your angle but HEB and Austin Symphony have to pay COTA A TON OF $$$ to have the event out there. COTA needs to fork over some kind of traffic control and they don't
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Larry Baltierra What if there was a fire a shooting do you believe all those people would stay calm with a hand full of cops and no escape plan . It's a perfect situation for a terrorist attack
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Amy Regner Cloudt So it's 1:30 and we just got home. Everyone complaining about traffic management, just stop. Did you see all the people there??? There's only 1 road in and out. Clearly you all should have known how horrendous that was going to be. We waited about two hours in the parking lot, then it just took a few mins to get out. Yes, the traffic was horrible. Yes, the lines were so long, but there were a TON Of people there!!! Just calm down, relax, and don't go back.... I don't know what you guys expected with a crowd that big.
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William Brown The sad thing is that it only took 1-1.5 hours longer to get out at the F1 race with 100k+ people. very poor management of the lanes of direction leaving the parking lots. The fact that it was down to one lane turning right onto 812 didn't help either...
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Katalina Pierce I think what people expected was for the exiting to run smoothly as it does for concerts and races. They have 100k+ people for those events and I've never heard of traffic exiting being that bad for those events. But maybe because it was a FREE event, they didn't have the budget to pay anyone to direct traffic the way they do for other events(?) I fully expected it to be at least an hour but not 2-3 hours of sitting and not moving at all.
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Celestte Vazques What a disaster. Never again!!!!!!!!
Like · Reply · 2 · Yesterday at 12:30am

Jennifer Kelly Traffic leaving COTA was bad, but no worse than leaving downtown. We sat in a parking garage for 2hours last July 4.
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Jeremy N Sweredoski The difference is there's mass transportation and multiple streets. It's the fault of the garage if it took 2 hours to get out. We had no problems at all when we parked DT.
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Tim Peck No 30 minute venue should have a 4 hour ride home afterwards. (Especially when you're only 30 minutes away)
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Steve Williams As for the accident on 130. Saw it. Looked like a single vehicle accident but had no less that 15 police cars and emergency vehicles. If the incident was that bad, and they knew there was tons of traffic, how about dispatching appropriate resources to deal with the traffic. Terrible response by police and still to COTA - You dropped the ball. You just alienated a large number of prospective venue patrons.
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Mike Jankowski To all who complained about traffic, obviously you weren't aware of the accident at the entrance and the the one near 130. Though minor, those threw a huge wrench in the works. Still, traffic was going to be difficult, and it was about an hour after the show that we could leave Lot C.
Like · Reply · 1 · Yesterday at 1:56am

Mike Jankowski One thing is no one wants to pay to expand the roads for traffic. I agree, things need to be improved.
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Daniel Pierce COTA should have been forced to make the roads better -- they build something where 1000s of people are heading and they have two-land access roads... Not the city. Not the county. The COTA people charge plenty of money -- let them make the roads better.
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Mike Dayum Robison To all the complainers.……I hear Dallas is wayyy better than Austin. Do you need help packing?
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Jennifer Kelly We went early to check out all of those family friendly activities. I have to say I was pretty disappointed. I expected more.
Like · Reply · 16 hours ago

Annie Nøiers Teles That was just awful...as visitors to Austin we were mislead onto dark roads in the middle of the sticks after waiting for almost 3 hours to get out...the display was nice but not worth the effort at all.
Like · Reply · 20 hours ago

Mike Owen 1st and last time for me. Fail.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 2:33pm

Lee Black It was discouraging to finally get to move out of the parking lot only to watch 3 parking attendants sitting on the curb doing nothing. Where were all those guys that helped us get parked in the first place. Police had a great set up at the west exit.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 12:34pm

Angie Irish Hernandez Sad to say our first experience was a crap experience. My son has been out there many times and was shocked we took so long to just get out of the parking lot! POOR planning for this event obviously!
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 11:48am

Tatiana Christina Montano It was a wonderful event, I had a ton of fun. The traffic management could have been a lot better, but hey, learn from mistakes and try to improve for next year's event. My friends and I passed the time with conversation and looking up videos on youtube when we were stuck in traffic, so it wasn't too horrible
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:58am

Tatiana Christina Montano P.S. Sorry again to the guy who's beer I knocked over on my way out. It was dark and I didn't see you. My bad bruh.
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Vance Facundo



Beautifulmind Bm Ok, some one in administration needs to take NOTES down to spend a bit on taking out the bottle necks from the whole route if you are expecting so much cash flow from race events . Even without accidents, how can you imagine 6 lane traffic coming out from COTA can merge on single lane roads outside???? Maybe thats why when we kept wondering stuck in traffic for 3 hrs where cops are, we saw only one cop managing traffic on the bottle neck junction only. Why would they have deployed any traffic management authority inside? Eilroy ln and Pierce lanes NEED expansion PLEASE!!!!
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Laura Cartwright This is something I will NEVER do again. We sensed the huge outpouring of people coming so left 30 minutes early and watched fireworks from our car. despite being ready and leaving early took 3hours to exit into heavy traffic. Car behind us even nudged us in the bumper. "excuse me sir but where do you want us to go"? Insane and rude
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:51am

Sarah Mancha I appreciate that it was a free event,and counted on it taking at least an hour to make my way home- but to sit, in my parking space, for 2.5 hours before even turning my car on to sit in another line, was ridiculous. No one had a clue as to what they were doing, and I will never attend this venue again.
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 10:49am

Dale Stephens NO TRAFFIC CONTROL inside COTA~! THREE hours to get back to Austin. Not worth the Free Fireworks and Symphony~!
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Katalina Pierce Daniel Pierce
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Katalina Pierce 2 hours to exit. You called it !
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Amy Regner Cloudt Oh yeah, by the way, it was a FREE event
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 1:36am

Larry Baltierra Still a great venue for concerts and races
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Elvira A. George What time to the fireworks go off?
Like · Reply · July 4 at 7:10pm

Circuit of The Americas 9:30!
Like · July 4 at 8:26pm

Elvira A. George Thank you
Like · July 4 at 8:27pm
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Circuit of The Americas Forecast is that storms are staying north and south of the track. All clear!
Like · Reply · July 4 at 6:54pm

Josh Thompson Why has it taken us over an hr and a half to move 30 ft?!!!!! Unacceptable COTA! This is not the way a world class track is supposed to operate
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Patricia Coursey Ortiz I'll never go to COTA again if this is how traffic is managed. Just absolutely ridiculous. The fireworks show was a disgrace. We got there at 3:30 to get a good spot and waited anxiously to see an amazing show? What?! That was it?! I'm so disappointed. I'll never do that again. Not I mention waiting in the parking lot for 2 hours just to move one car length!! Absolutely disgraceful. Sooooo very upset about this still.
Like · Reply · 1 · Yesterday at 10:46am

Chris Dean This is the worst venue I've ever been to! 2 hours and I'm still sitting in the parking lot!
Like · Reply · 1 · July 4 at 11:54pm

Jill Honken What's the pro tips to exiting?!? I think we could use that right now! Over a hour and half without moving!
Like · Reply · 1 · July 4 at 11:33pm

Brent Holm No rain and plenty of room
Like · Reply · 1 · July 4 at 7:03pm

Janet Kilgo Is it packed?
Like · Reply · 1 · July 4 at 3:53pm

Daniel Pierce Nice pro tip! You needed some tips for exiting. Whoever was in charge of logistics should be immediately fired. Or was anyone even in charge of assisting people with getting out?
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 9:54am

JoeJohn Watson The traffic was well managed getting in. They used the lanes hurricane evacuation style and APD did a great job with traffic.
Getting out was ridiculous! We got out after a while but my sister and brother were there til 1:30 am trying to get out!!! It took them more than 3 1/2 hours to get out!!!
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 9:21am

Dale Stephens Yes, but took 3 hours to get back to downtown Austin after the Fireworks..
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 8:54am

Jason Lynn Horrible horrible traffic getting in and especially out. We had to watch from the parking lot and still took 40 minutes to get out of there. Please get back to auditorium shores next year
Like · Reply · Yesterday at 12:23am

Katalina Pierce I sure hope they do.
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Steve Noynaert Took me 40 min to go from lot T (which was empty btw, with best view of the fireworks) to SH130. Seems that the main issue was people walking on on 812 and blocking/slowing down traffic. For F1 the longest I sat in traffic was 10 min. Of course today everyone left at the exact same time. Hard to fit that many cars on a two lane road.
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David Aldridge 50 minutes sitting in traffic trying to get out if here, and haven't moved a single inch. Is F1 entry/exit this horrible?
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Danny Snyder Too bad traffic is such a mess leaving. Why isn't TCSO running the traffic?
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Patricia Ochoa Herbst It's raining! Is it muddy?
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We went to my sister's in Del Valle. The traffic was pretty bad just past the airport, but after 130 it cleared out. I took some photos and video of the fireworks since you can see the observation tower at COTA from their front porch. You can see the red light on the tower in the bottom right of these pics.
Nice, Kevin. Thanks for posting! Vance got some nice shots from Haywood's Hill, too.

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COTA traffic woes continue:

http://www.austin360.com/weblogs/austin-...kiss-def-leppard-austin360-amphitheater/

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Also wasn't expecting "Detroit Rock City" but they did that, too, perhaps because it was Saturday night and I was feeling uptight because of nightmarish parking misguidance and misdirection by Circuit of the Americas staff that had us driving around the racetrack for longer than the band was onstage.
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Shea Lowers Boom on COTA for Attempted Property Tax Dodge. "COTA = Cheap on Tax Appraisals"?

Now, I've never been a Brigid Shea fan, but she makes some very good points here.

http://www.statesman.com/news/news/opini...ystem-shifts-burden-on-homeowners/nghwW/

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Earlier this month, on the Fourth of July, we celebrated our nation’s Declaration of Independence from the British, sparked by unfair taxation. How ironic then, that Austin’s celebration took place at a business that is suing to avoid paying its fair share of property taxes.
According to the Statesman, Circuit of the Americas is arguing in court that “the $7 million plus property tax bill they receive in January is more than 2 1/2 times higher than it should be.” As one protester’s sign at the fireworks said, “COTA= Cheap On Tax Appraisals.”

Circuit of the Americas’ effort to cut its property tax appraisal by more than 60 percent is even more galling given the public largess they’ve received: $25 million-plus a year for 10 years in sales tax revenue from the region; a $14 million electric substation, paid for by rate payers; $13 million in water and wastewater lines, paid for by water customers; and $21.6 million and counting from Travis County taxpayers for roads. And now they’re arguing in court that their property tax bill should be $2.7 million instead of $7.3 million. They could easily pay their bill out of their sales tax rebates alone.

Circuit of the Americas’ overreach couldn’t come at a worse time. Homeowners are suffering under dramatic increases in their property tax appraisals, while a growing number of big businesses are under-appraised. As stated in a headline on the Statesman’s Sept. 29 article, “You pay more, they pay less … Texas’ tax appraisal system benefits commercial properties, shifting a greater burden to homeowners.” According to a new grass-roots movement called Real Values for Texas, “Big commercial property owners exploit loopholes in property tax law to knock an average 40 percent off their tax bill.” This number is confirmed by the Texas Association of Appraisal Districts and the Houston Chronicle.

Every homeowner I know would love to see a 40 percent reduction in their home appraisal. Instead they’re seeing an average increase of over 12 percent in Travis County this year. Many report increases much higher than that. This broken system is hurting families and literally driving them out of their homes. After campaigning door-to-door for five months, I’ve lost track of the number of people who’ve told me they have to sell and move away because their appraisals have gone up so much.
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3 months before USGP, COTA hires new concessionaire. Is Sodexo out?

https://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Journal/Issues/2014/07/21/Facilities/COTA-concessions.aspx

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Three months before the third annual U.S. Grand Prix takes place in Austin, Texas, Circuit of the Americas has hired a new concessionaire. Ryan Sanders Sports Services, in-house food provider at the Class AAA ballpark Dell Diamond, has signed a 10-year deal to run general concessions
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The F1 season has been exciting so far. The Austin race may turn out to be a very important one to decide the championship since there are only two races in the season afterward.

Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton have won every race except one this year so there's high probability they'll be very close in points at the end.

This will be quite different from the past two races as Sebastian Vettel always had the championship wrapped up by the Austin race. Also, the cars (engines) are new this year. V6 hybrids versus the V8 engines of past.
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The F1 season has been exciting so far. The Austin race may turn out to be a very important one to decide the championship since there are only two races in the season afterward.

Nico Rosberg and Lewis Hamilton have won every race except one this year so there's high probability they'll be very close in points at the end.

This will be quite different from the past two races as Sebastian Vettel always had the championship wrapped up by the Austin race. Also, the cars (engines) are new this year. V6 hybrids versus the V8 engines of past.
Mexico City is officially on the schedule for 2015..Possibly a week removed from the USGP...
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COTA announces FIAWEC Lone Star Le Mans schedule:

http://www.motorsport.com/wec/news/circuit-of-the-americas-sets-lone-star-le-mans-schedule/?v=2&s=1

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Patrick Dempsey, Mark Webber – and Blue Oyster Cult.

The countdown is on to Circuit of The Americas’ Lone Star Le Mans weekend. The event will be a Texas-sized celebration of sports car racing and entertainment, including two of the world’s most-loved endurance racing series—the TUDOR United SportsCar Series and the FIA World Endurance Championship Series (WEC)- along with racing from Porsche GT3 Cup series and Continental Tire Sports Car Championship (CTSC).

At this event, the cars are the stars of the show, and fans can enjoy open access to these impressive machines and the skilled competitors who pilot them, including famous drivers like TV star Patrick Dempsey and former Formula 1 driver Mark Webber. The Lone Star Le Mans also marks the debut of night racing at Austin’s award-winning grand prix circuit.

In addition to the unique racing options offered at the Circuit, the weekend will also offer a variety of family-friendly entertainment options suitable for all ages. An open paddock and pit walk allow spectators up-close access to the teams, drivers and race cars. The purchase of a two-day pass will also provide access to a free bonus day at the track on Thursday, Sept. 18.

The Circuit will be offering a variety of live music entertainment including a headlining performance from American rock band Blue Oyster Cult at the Austin360 Amphitheater. Guests will also enjoy a post-race fan track invasion, driver autograph sessions, a fan forum featuring a driver Q&A session, and activities and games for children throughout the weekend. The full schedule of events is available at www.circuitoftheamericas.com/wectudor.

Thursday, September 18, 2014

10:30 am Gates and paddock open

10:35 am - 11:15 am Practice #2 - gt3 cup

11:25 am - 12:05 pm Pit Walk (Pit Lane – Access from Paddock)

12:55 pm - 1:55 pm Practice #2 - ctsc

2:10 pm - 2:30 pm Qualifying - gt3 cup

2:45 pm - 4:15 pm Practice #1 - FIA WEC

4:30 pm - 4:45 pm Qualifying - ctsc ST

5:00 pm - 5:15 pm Qualifying - ctsc GS

5:30 pm - 6:30 pm Practice #1 - TUDOR Championship (All Classes)

7:30 pm - 9:00 pm Practice #2 - FIA WEC

Friday, September 19, 2014

7:30 am Gates and paddock open

8:00 am - 8:45 am Race #1 - gt3 cup - 45 minutes

9:00 am -10 am Practice #2 – TUDOR Championship (All Classes)

10:20 am - 11:20 am Practice #3 - FIA WEC

11:35 am -12:05 pm Pit Lane Walk & Open Grid – ctsc (Pit Lane – Access from Paddock)

12:20 pm - 2:50 pm Race - ctsc - 150 minutes

3:20 pm - 4:20 pm Practice #2 - TUDOR Championship (All Classes)

4:30 pm - 4:45 pm Qualifying - TUDOR Championship (GTD)

4:50 pm - 5:05 pm Qualifying - TUDOR Championship (GTLM)

5:15 pm - 5:30 pm Qualifying - TUDOR Championship (PC)

5:35 pm - 5:50 pm Qualifying - TUDOR Championship (P)

6 pm - 6:25 pm Qualifying - FIA WEC (LMGTE-PRO/LMGTE-AM)

6:35 pm - 7 pm Qualifying - FIA WEC (LMP1/LMP2)

7:25 pm - 8:10 pm Race #2 - gt3 cup - 45 minutes

Saturday, September 20, 2014

8 am Gates and paddock open

8:40 am – 9 am Warm Up – TUDOR Championship (All Classes)

9:30 am - 10:15 am Driver Autograph Session - TUDOR Championship (Paddock – TUDOR Team Transporters)

9:30 am - 10:15 am Driver Autograph Session - FIA WEC (Paddock - Behind Pit Garages)

10 am - 10:30 am TUDOR Championship Live Auction benefitting Austin Hatcher Foundation (Paddock – TBD Team Transporter)

10:40 am- 11:20 am TUDOR Championship Pre-Race Ceremonies

10:40 am- 11:20 am Open Grid Fan Walk (Pit Lane– Access from Paddock)

11:35 pm - 2:20 pm Race - TUDOR United SportsCar Championship (Round 12) - 2 Hours 45 Minutes

3 pm - 4:30 pm Performance by Blue Oyster Cult (Austin360 Amphitheater)

4:30 pm- 4:50 pm FIA WEC Pre-Race Ceremonies

5 pm - 11:00 pm Race - FIA WEC - 6 Hours
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