CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction - Page 742

ardecila · #**14821** Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Second of all, the Pei addition is horrendous from a preservationist point of view. Yes it has become iconic, but if you value preserving designs as a whole, it is not acceptable.

Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. If preservation can't be flexible enough to allow upgrades, updates, and additions (so long as they are respectful and distinct) then I see no value in it. It's actually surprising to hear you especially advocating for preserving the Louvre in amber... the Louvre palace itself grew in size over time and was forever altered in 1871 when terrorists destroyed the Tuileries.

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Either way, it is not acceptable to modify a landmark so heavily, the original plaza has already been bastardized and now we are going to approve a stand alone glass prism there as well? Give me a break...

So if the original plaza has been heavily bastardized, what is left to save? I think we can agree that the original design was way too secluded and bucolic for such a major crossroads, especially for a building that wants to drive retail traffic.

Original design:

wierdaaron · #**14822** Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 11:21 PM**

I think the plaza being below street level like that is unworkable. People don't gravitate toward grade changes like that without a destination, and without anchor tenants nobody's making it a destination. Maybe if they improved the sight lines from the sidewalk to the retail storefronts there'd be a chance.

Maybe what they're going for with this glass structure talk is something like the 5th Avenue Apple Store, where at street level all you see is this:

And the real store is below:

Making an attractive storefront that captures millions of visitors while dealing with an awkward physical footprint yet keeps the street level. They could kind of dig out the Hancock plaza and put anything down there, and build out a platform over it that behaves like a street level plaza. Who knows.

Rizzo · #**14823** Posted **Jun 20, 2014, 11:41 PM**

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View of Chicago and LaSalle from a new perspective. Taken today.

Wow aaax, hell of a lot better perspective than the view I took a few floors below.

hawainpanda · #**14824** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 2:19 AM**

I think 212 West Illinois is topped out or close to it

Tom Servo · #**14825** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 4:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by aaax

View of Chicago and LaSalle from a new perspective. Taken today.

I often drive past this site. I forgot what this is. Can someone post a rendering or link please. Thanks.

wierdaaron · #**14826** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 4:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom Servo

I often drive past this site. I forgot what this is. Can someone post a rendering or link please. Thanks.

Apartment tower.

http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2013/...er-at-chicago-lasalle-runs-unopposed.php

Official website: http://www.805lasalle.com/ (the intersection of noun and adverb)

As a side note, it surprises me that these new developments along Chicago choose to use their cross street address rather than Chicago Ave in their building name. The Chicago/Houston building does the same. Seems that a name like 300Chicago is more catchy than 805Lasalle. Are they bound by some kind of street grid/zoning/postal/etc rules with what address they use?

Ch.G, Ch.G · #**14827** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 6:20 PM**

Where's the neighboring building with the mansard roof?

ETA: Oh, duh. The read brick threw me off.

ardecila · #**14828** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by wierdaaron

As a side note, it surprises me that these new developments along Chicago choose to use their cross street address rather than Chicago Ave in their building name. The Chicago/Houston building does the same. Seems that a name like 300Chicago is more catchy than 805Lasalle. Are they bound by some kind of street grid/zoning/postal/etc rules with what address they use?

If the entrance is off LaSalle, then that's what the address is. The Chicago frontage is occupied by retail since it has (by far) heavier pedestrian traffic.

Also worth noting: no new curb cuts! Everything is done off the alley.

harryc · #**14829** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 7:08 PM**

Tom Servo · #**14830** Posted **Jun 21, 2014, 7:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by wierdaaron

Apartment tower.

Thanks. Yeah I drive past this often, and I didn't know what to think about the concrete bunker going up. But SONO East or whatever it's called turned out really nice; I'm sure this will come together well too.

hawainpanda · #**14831** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 1:24 AM**

passed by this place today, not entirely sure whats going to go there, the lot seems sorta small, but possible for this:http://chicago.curbed.com/archives/2013/11/13/development-update-cedar-hotel.php?

Rizzo · #**14832** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 1:29 AM**

^ 4 - story commercial building with urban outfitters IIRC. The old one is or was going to be converted into some glowing pink jewel box thing.

There's also movement on that speculative masonry shell on Maple with the construction of a large canopy. Looks promising.

marothisu · #**14833** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 4:04 AM**

It will be interesting in the area. The former Hunt Club space new building will be coming up, Velvet Taco is going into the Subway/Psychic building next door and renovating the facade. Then the building with the Corner Bakery is supposed to be torn down and replaced with a pretty nice building along with a new 25 story building that's supposed to rise at State & Elm.

Then who knows about some other stuff there too..

Skyguy_7 · #**14834** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 1:49 PM**

If a moderator would be so kind move this into the Spire thread-

Within the last few days, DRAWINGS have been issued for budget pricing. This tells us that not only are they currently working on the financial side of the project, but also that they are serious about construction of the actual building itself, which some people have been doubting.

killaviews · #**14835** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 2:00 PM**

Not sure what this means, but in Alderman Cappman's latest newsletter, he said that the city offered JDL $14 million in TIF funds for the highrise at the Maryville site.

Is this finally going to happend?

guesswho · #**14836** Posted **Jun 23, 2014, 2:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

If a moderator would be so kind move this into the Spire thread-

Within the last few days, DRAWINGS have been issued for budget pricing. This tells us that not only are they currently working on the financial side of the project, but also that they are serious about construction of the actual building itself, which some people have been doubting.

What do you mean "DRAWINGS"? Thanks.