YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

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[Johnny Aussie]

Just read on twitter that Delta is launching 2 daily flights from YVR-LAX in mid December on E75s.

Will post more info when I get it.

I was kind of thinking this might happen with Virgin Australia's CTA approval to operate its flight numbers code share on Delta aircraft (including Skywest). Would make sense to feed VA's flights from LAX -SYD/MEL/BNE and Delta's own flights from LAX to SYD.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Just read on twitter that Delta is launching 2 daily flights from YVR-LAX in mid December on E75s.

Will post more info when I get it.

I was kind of thinking this might happen with Virgin Australia's CTA approval to operate its flight numbers code share on Delta aircraft (including Skywest). Would make sense to feed VA's flights from LAX -SYD/MEL/BNE and Delta's own flights from LAX to SYD.

Would this in any way hamper Vancouver's chances of getting new direct flights to MEL and/or BNE ?

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Would this in any way hamper Vancouver's chances of getting new direct flights to MEL and/or BNE ?

If flights were to be established from YVR-MEL or YVR-BNE this would be on Air Canada most likely anyway.

All this is doing is feeding the VA flights (and the DL flights) on DL metal instead of AS as is the case now.

Alaska is THE airline to feed YVR-Australia on QF right now which existed well before the YVR-SYD non-stops on AC anyway.

With the DL/AS drama going on.... Just another example of DL competing head to head with AS.

[Gordon]

Two new gates B17 & B18 open tomorrow. according to YvE's flight information pages.

[tuffyy]

American Airlines adding YVR-LAX 2x daily starting Oct 2/14 on CRJ-900's.

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140619-909135.html

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

American Airlines adding YVR-LAX 2x daily starting Oct 2/14 on CRJ-900's.

http://online.wsj.com/article/PR-CO-20140619-909135.html

Along with the 2 new daily flights by Delta, plus WJ, AC, United, and AS, this is becoming even more Vancouver's busiest transborder route.

[tuffyy]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Along with the 2 new daily flights by Delta, plus WJ, AC, United, and AS, this is becoming even more Vancouver's busiest transborder route.

It's looking more and more like a AS, DL and now AA fight for numbers to the pacific hubs...

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by tuffyy

It's looking more and more like a AS, DL and now AA fight for numbers to the pacific hubs...

How will this benefit YVR? What connections can we expect to gain from the route?

[trofirhen]

Speaking to a route planner / developer at YVR, it seems as if these "visa-free" zones are fairly common in many countries, Canada lagging behind.

For example, Emirates, operating through Dubai, now handles a lot of of South America-bound Chinese passeners through DBX, which has such a zone, and has a quality product.

He said that Emirates has plans to move into Santiago and Lima (they already serve São Paolo it seems) ---- and if this is the case, the visa-free zone planned for YVR would be (excuse the language) "castrated."

The visa-free zone (one of which YYZ would no doubt have, too) is a priority, as Emirates expands and expands, gobbling up routes and potential routes worldwide, not to mention having a significant negative impact on YVR unless action is taken on this: soon.

[Johnny Aussie]

6 airlines going to be on the YVR-LAX route: AC, AS, WS, UA, DL and now AA.

I cannot remember the last time any route out of YVR had this many carriers on it.

This latest announcement surprises me but I guess AA thinks this will work. Something's going to have to give I reckon.

[Hourglass]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

6 airlines going to be on the YVR-LAX route: AC, AS, WS, UA, DL and now AA.

I cannot remember the last time any route out of YVR had this many carriers on it.

This latest announcement surprises me but I guess AA thinks this will work. Something's going to have to give I reckon.

Yeah, has the makings of a bloodbath. Will be great for the consumer for a while, though...

[trofirhen]

It may not be a bloodbath if that "VISA-FREE" zone is never built.
People will have to connect to South America through LAX, and AA now has several major South American destinations from LAX, unlike before.
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Just how many flights per day will this all make between YVR and LAX (while this configuration still holds)?

[SpongeG]

the outlet mall has some structure up, they are also building a miniature version which looks like some kind of signage for it at the south end of the bridge there

[excel]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Just how many flights per day will this all make between YVR and LAX (while this configuration still holds)?

AA = 2 Daily (Skywest CRJ-900)
AC = 4 Daily (Rouge A319)
AS = 4 Daily (3 737-700 1 737-400)
DL = 2 Daily (Compass E-175)
UA = 1 Daily (Skywest CRJ-700)
WS = 3 Daily (2 737-800 1 737-700)

Total = 16 Daily YVR-LAX

[stiffdeadman]

i think united will be the first to drop out with their one little crj700 flight.

just read the news on airlinerroute. says the delta service is only from dec 20 to jan 4.

also says that they are only operating 4 flights a day to seattle instead of the 5 they had announced.

[usog]

Originally Posted by stiffdeadman

i think united will be the first to drop out with their one little crj700 flight.

just read the news on airlinerroute. says the delta service is only from dec 20 to jan 4.

also says that they are only operating 4 flights a day to seattle instead of the 5 they had announced.

I'm pretty sure United have a few A319/A320 flights per day as well. I don't see them dropping a flight between two star alliance hubs either. In fact I'll be flying them instead of Air Canada to California now thanks to the rouge replacement of the E190s.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by usog

I'm pretty sure United have a few A319/A320 flights per day as well. I don't see them dropping a flight between two star alliance hubs either. In fact I'll be flying them instead of Air Canada to California now thanks to the rouge replacement of the E190s.

Actually UA is only one daily to LAX on a CR7. The A319/A320 flights are to SFO one of which carries on to LAX.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by stiffdeadman

i think united will be the first to drop out with their one little crj700 flight.

just read the news on airlinerroute. says the delta service is only from dec 20 to jan 4.

also says that they are only operating 4 flights a day to seattle instead of the 5 they had announced.

Point 1: I wouldn't be so sure about that. In fact maybe go the other way.

Point 2: Delta has not loaded these flights yet and in fact only showing in one direction (LAX-YVR) right now. I was waiting before the whole sched is loaded to be sure what its seasonality is or if it is year round.

Point 3: this was reported months ago. Delta dropped the YVR-SEA route to 4 daily shortly after announcing the route launch.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by excel

AA = 2 Daily (Skywest CRJ-900)
AC = 4 Daily (Rouge A319)
AS = 4 Daily (3 737-700 1 737-400)
DL = 2 Daily (Compass E-175)
UA = 1 Daily (Skywest CRJ-700)
WS = 3 Daily (2 737-800 1 737-700)

Total = 16 Daily YVR-LAX

By the time the new players jump into the fray...

AC drops to 3 daily for the winter but one daily becomes a 763.
AS drops to 3 daily for the winter. But right now 4 daily with some 739s and 738s up and down the coast.
WS is not quite 3 daily. It's 19 weekly in the summer but only 2 daily in winter. Plus there is the daily SNA flight too.

But still... That's a lot of flying on one transborder route!