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Originally Posted by Sam Hill
I was just using the word photoshop as a verb - like one would use the “verb” google.
Anyway, I like weed as much as the next guy, but I don’t like what has happened to denver’s reputation since the new law passed. That’s why the whole idea of some sort of pot industry headquarters/building makes me cringe.
I can’t wait until all of this pot brouhaha passes. It’s ridiculous. It seems like every freaking time I see or hear Denver or Colorado mentioned in the media, there has to be some sort of pot pun involved. And every time I tell somebody I’m from Denver, I get stuck in the same obligatory conversation about legalization. It’s getting to the point where I don’t like to tell people I’m from there because I don’t want to keep having the same conversation about marijuana legalization over and over again.
It used to be, when people thought of Denver, they thought of skiing. Now they think of pot. That’s not good.
Anyway, that’s why your “photoshoped” bong-building thingy made me cry.
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Okay, got the part about photoshoped.......
Now..... the last thing that I wanted to do here is make anyone cringe. That being said, I stayed a lurker here at first for a few years...... and the only thing that got me started was the negativity and outright ignorance of some posts relating to marijuana.
Just for everyone's FYI, I do like to smoke pot..... but I do it every few days, if that much. As there are many times in life even with the best of us (and believe me, I'm not claiming to be anywhere near the best here) but sh*t sometimes happen, and smoking some joint can usually change my mood for a while, almost always for the better. And sometimes I just want a taste of some good smoke in my mouth, the way anyone would like the taste of a fine wine.... which I also like..... sometimes.
That being said, I'm surprised that what's really missing here is really not even about marijuana (although that's the issue) but rather the appreciation that the majority of voters of Colorado (as well as Washington State) have said "ENOUGH!" and put a stop to this stupid nonsense and complete injustice about anyone who likes to smoke (or forms of eating or drinking) marijuana, which basically is a harmless natural product which in itself usually makes people happy for a while. And nothing wrong with that. It's the stupid, asinine laws that have ruined so many people's lives here.
If I may also add here..... stand up and be BRAGGING that you're from Colorado, where REASON has finally prevailed! The people here, along with the people of the State of Washington, have taken on the world's most powerful government (be it that it is our own) and said ENOUGH with the embedded stupidity and injustice about marijuana. Adults can make their own choices in this regard. This isn't quite the Renaissance, where enlightenment and knowledge became virtuous, or the American Revolution and Boston, where individual freedom became a principle idea. But this is Colorado...... and something monumental and historic has happened here. And as with all new journeys that "wise men" have claimed doom if certain paths were traveled...... geesh..... the sky hasn't fallen down on the State of Colorado.... amazing, eh?
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Originally Posted by Wizened Variations
What do we do about the image? None of us want Denver to get the reputation that Amsterdam developed over the last 50 or so years.
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2nd) Pump money into CU, CSU, and, DU to study what marijuana really does, what positive products can be spun off, etc.
The issue is not just the "reputation," but how can the product be utilized for treatment in psychotherapy, pain reduction from trauma, and, cancer therapy for starters.
3rd) Colorado, Washington state, and whatever state votes to legalize pot need to work out social behavior standards-not just laws- relating to the legal use of pot. For example, I do not like smelling pot as I am driving down the road with my windows down (some of the pot stores truly "stink.") nor do I appreciate wafts of smell while I am walking on the sidewalk to a business appointment, anymore than I like the smell of fetid booze.
I worry about the affects of pot on children, and, how "good" and "responsible" social behavior is taught to them. US kids, as a rule, are not receiving a good education as it is, and, the deleterious impact of pot on a mind in it's learning phase still has not been adequately mapped. Does the "mellow" aspect of smoking pot reduce the angst required to learn subjects like physics, mathematics, writing, and, foreign languages which are increasingly important skills for the next generation to be able to compete in the Chinese Centric world? Young people need to understand just how clear their minds need to be to prepare for their future leadership roles. Once these young people have grown up and mastered basic 21st Century skills, then what they chose to smoke is their business.
What has to happen is for our culture to hammer out new, widely accepted behavior norms.
(Hopefully, TV, and, movies, institutions that bear much of the responsibility for social "crap," can assist.)
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Yes, marijuana needs to be studied, which hopefully here it can be. And its applications, especially with MS and other chronic illnesses can finally be researched and documented. It's a shame that this knowledge isn't already with us, due to long time embedded stupidity. And yes, maybe many people don't like it.... then don't use it! But that's not a reason to ban it. And finally, yes, those under 18 years of age do need extra attention with this matter, and other matters as well. Now that there will be extra $$$$$ in the coffers of education (rather than being pumped into an unregulated market), then hopefully many more students will get the benefits of better education.
BTW, here's a good link about all the embedded stupidity of marijuana:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/20...inst-legalizing-marijuana_n_5175880.html
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Originally Posted by bobg
The weed jokes will pass. The discussion will die down as these other states join in. Sales are starting in Washington next month, Alaska is voting on it in the fall, and Oregon could vote on it in the fall as well. Additionally, In 2016 MPP is targeting about a half dozen states to vote on it.
In some respects it's like gay marriage, in that there were tons of jokes about it initially, everyone said it would drive conservatives and investment away from that state, but without googling it I cannot tell you which state did it first but I am sure they are doing fine. These things die down as people realize how stupid we have been, and how the jokes just aren't funny in light of the actual ramifications.
Here in CO we are probably sick of it more than most because we've already had these discussions ad nauseam. But somehow someone seems to always bring it up, and we reluctantly debate it all over again with same old tired arguments (on both sides).
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Yes, things are changing..... and we here in Colorado are FIRST with the courage to enact this change. And since this is a development thread, I have to say there needs to be a proper commemoration of this. And since we are first to market, develop this into a sustained economic enterprise for the State, and especially for the City of Denver for many generations forward. Declare a zone in Denver where ignorance was finally defeated, and make the most of it both in commemoration and economically.
And already economically, it is estimated that some 7,500-10,000 people in the state are employed because of the pot industry. And it is estimated that the stupidity about marijuana is costing the nation some $17 BILLION each year. And golly, I have to say that it's such a harmful element here that there has never been an actual recorded human death from marijuana usage in over 10,000 years, eh?
Back to Denver development.... I personally would like to see a lot of the same things that most people like about this site..... development. Tall buildings, unique architecture, street life, DT surface parking lots becoming extinct, etc. And unfortunately, for all the conversation that goes on here about development, this new and unique industry that we have here seems more scoffed at, and stupidized (my made-up word) rather than being embraced and making the most of it economically as well as the fact that finally people have courageously put an end to ignorance and injustice.
Nobody here (or anywhere) has to personally like it. No one is forced to use it! But hopefully, just because people don't personally like it, these days are ended where it seems that many would rather hang their head in shame about this than realizing the justice achieved and the potential of tremendous economic opportunity. And sometime soon, may the rest of the majority of good citizens in the rest of the U.S. states get their heads out of their a**es and find the reasonable perspective that has so long been lacking with marijuana.
Enough said here......
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