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Old Posted Mar 22, 2014, 2:07 AM
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Regardless of how it happened it is turning out great; some photos I took today.





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Nice. Thanks.

Weird how the fins are visible from one angle (pics 2 and 3), but not the other (pic 1).
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Old Posted Mar 22, 2014, 4:23 AM
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Weird how the fins are visible from one angle (pics 2 and 3), but not the other (pic 1).
On the far left front of the tower? Just reflections I think.
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Old Posted May 5, 2014, 11:13 PM
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This building is beautiful in real life! Like a short relative to the MNP tower with the upper west side's mullions.
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It's turning out quite well. Thanks for the photos, Chadilliaccc.

I'm not sure how well the whole deconstructed, angular podium will age, but when paired with the straight-forward tower the juxtaposition creates a legible relationship that will be easily understood long after it goes out of style.
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This building is so beautiful! Definitely worth the risks in moving forward with it.
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The building looks absolutely stunning in Yellow Fever's last picture.
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That last shot is absolutely fantastic. What an awesome building, especially for a suburb. This is something I think would work well in the Olympic Village/SE False Creek area or Calgary's East Village. The amenities are really what is going to make this development special, including a 350 seat theatre, 500 person conference centre, restaurant, and a coffee shop. Plus, I believe it will be New West's first LEED Gold office building. I look forward to seeing the interaction with the street, cautiously optimistic
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New West has way more of a downtown vibe than Metrotown. i wonder if they can steal some of that anticipated office space from Burnaby. You'd think a company wanting to set up in a cheaper suburb would have New West at the top of their list. Good transit connections too, with Skytrain radiating in 3 directions as opposed to Metrotown's 2.
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That would take a progressive city council in New West - although they did approve Plaza 88 and this tower.

But how would they deal with all the traffic?
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That would take a progressive city council in New West - although they did approve Plaza 88 and this tower.

But how would they deal with all the traffic?
??? I'm surprised by your take that they aren't progressive. They have added significant commercial and residential densities, preserved heritage and made significant investments in public facilities including Pier Park etc. What more should they be doing?

(Personally I don't think they should have approved plaza 88 in its current form. love the height and density, hate the execution.)
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??? I'm surprised by your take that they aren't progressive. They have added significant commercial and residential densities, preserved heritage and made significant investments in public facilities including Pier Park etc. What more should they be doing?

(Personally I don't think they should have approved plaza 88 in its current form. love the height and density, hate the execution.)
I will have to concur with PaperTiger.

I too am surprised that OD doesn't consider New West council progressive. I find them VERY progressive, more so than other cities. And they have shown they are willing to achieve that goal such as taking on the risk to make sure this project moves forward.

Also one major accomplishment that the New West council also made here is the Brewery District, another major ToD and essentially an urban renewal success of a former industrial site.

So yeah....I don't know how much more progressive can you be...
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I'm thinking of the isolationist view they take on transportation.

It doesn't seem like they want to be part of the region,
and I don't see significant office growth in its downtown core (other than this tower, which is tied to the cultural / convention centre).

The Brewery District and the Sapperton Lands (@ Braid) are being built away from downtown on large [former] light industrial sites (already consolidated) that were to be redeveloped anyways (being next to SkyTrain stations) - which is no different than development trends in other muncipalities. Build it where it won't upset the neighbours, because condos and office are "nicer" to look at than an industrial site.

On New West's waterfront, I would have preferred to see Larco's original proposal which allowed a roadway under a waterfront deck (with park and promenade) -i.e. thinking for the future. The current scheme has the park and the condos at the level of Front Street - which is bound to create conflicts with the railways and Front St. traffic in the future.
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This building is a beauty. Wasn't sold on the tan stone accent but it's growing on me. I especially love the reflections of the Westminster Building in the glass on the right.

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That's incredible! New West is so fortunate to have it.
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Thanks for the updates rcdm. I recently moved to Edmonton, but still have a place in NW and this site is the best place for updates!

Any chance you could get a shot of the new Pedstrian crossing at fourth street sometime?
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 7:44 PM
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Looks great!
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Old Posted Jun 6, 2014, 9:06 PM
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I'm thinking of the isolationist view they take on transportation.

It doesn't seem like they want to be part of the region,
and I don't see significant office growth in its downtown core (other than this tower, which is tied to the cultural / convention centre).

The Brewery District and the Sapperton Lands (@ Braid) are being built away from downtown on large [former] light industrial sites (already consolidated) that were to be redeveloped anyways (being next to SkyTrain stations) - which is no different than development trends in other muncipalities. Build it where it won't upset the neighbours, because condos and office are "nicer" to look at than an industrial site.

On New West's waterfront, I would have preferred to see Larco's original proposal which allowed a roadway under a waterfront deck (with park and promenade) -i.e. thinking for the future. The current scheme has the park and the condos at the level of Front Street - which is bound to create conflicts with the railways and Front St. traffic in the future.
I think the characterization of "isolationist" is somewhat unfair. New West has an awesome amount of traffic pouring through the city everyday without the infrastructure to really deal with it. Short of building a freeway through the heart of the city a la Seattle (which would 🞵🞵🞵🞵) or unrealistic dreams of running an express tunnel under Royal Avenue, traffic is always going to clog the city. From an actually living in New West perspective, it would be great if Royal wasn't a roaring expressway (especially bad after the Portmann tolls) and if Front Street was pedestrian oriented instead of a raging truck route. As bad as it already is, is it a wonder that New West council and residents are not keen on adding to the traffic burden? Do you really expect council to be keen on projects that will make live better in other municipalities at the expense of making a problem worse? From my perspective it's realistic behaviour, or at least very in tune with their constituents.

(Fun story: the mayor of coquitlam strongly supports a 6 lane patullo bridge, but rejects the proposed realignment of the bridge that would deposit traffic in coquitlam.)

I also really like the smaller scale Larco development. Train traffic isn't especially heavy along that route, and I think the longterm goal is to advocate for truck traffic to not travel through downtown (in this case the extra inconvenience of stopping and proposed lower speed limits would drive truckers elsewhere, unfortunately, probably along Royal).

I guess what it comes down to, is what you consider more important, liveability or traffic expediency. Also: I really hate the tolls on the Portmann for how they have affected traffic patterns in New West.
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