Salt Lake City: Official Development News Thread - Part 3 - Page 448

wrendog · #**8941** Posted **May 30, 2014, 3:48 PM**

I think I'm the only one that loves the cube. I think it's rad.

bbart76 · #**8942** Posted **May 30, 2014, 5:56 PM**

This is a great listen. Talking about Pioneer Park, downtown and new development.

ClearWater Homes and Pioneer Park Neighborhood Renovations

http://kcpw.org/blog/downtown-slc/2014-0...s-pioneer-park-neighborhood-renovations/

ryerop · #**8943** Posted **May 30, 2014, 6:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by wrendog

I think I'm the only one that loves the cube. I think it's rad.

I also like it, I like that it isn't the same as every other building we have downtown. It adds some variety to our city, that hopefully will help to encourage more diversity in the future....at the very least no one can complain its made of stucco

Orlando · #**8944** Posted **May 30, 2014, 7:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by bbart76

This is a great listen. Talking about Pioneer Park, downtown and new development.

ClearWater Homes and Pioneer Park Neighborhood Renovations

http://kcpw.org/blog/downtown-slc/2014-0...s-pioneer-park-neighborhood-renovations/

Thanks for the link! I googled Clear Water to see what they are doing. This is what I found.

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The Westgate Business Center building at the corner of 300 West and 200 South had a storied past as part of the historic Westside Warehouse District. Originally, the area which still shows evidence of the more than a dozen warehouse buildings was largely residential and had been since the town was platted. An 1889 map shows the First Baptist Church comfortably standing on the corner of 300 West and 200 South and surrounded by one and two story houses.

http://www.clearwaterhomesutah.com/salt-lake-city-lofts-westgate

It's a cool design, but I think having a parking lot in front of the building on 300 West is a mistake. I think it would be much better to build on top of that parking lot. Add on to the existing and build to the sidewalk.

Orlando · #**8945** Posted **May 30, 2014, 7:57 PM**

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This loft community will feature 17 large urban lofts in the heart of Salt Lakes 9th and 9th community. This project will feature a compelling architectural approach that blends historical reverence with the modern elements such as exposed steel, glass, and architectural metals. Loft units will range in size from 1,200 sq. ft. to 2,700 sq. ft. and feature a rooftop deck that affords unparalleled panoramic views of the Wasatch front.

http://www.clearwaterhomesutah.com/telegraph-exchange-lofts-salt-lake-city-lofts

utenation · #**8946** Posted **May 30, 2014, 8:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by ryerop

I also like it, I like that it isn't the same as every other building we have downtown. It adds some variety to our city, that hopefully will help to encourage more diversity in the future....at the very least no one can complain its made of stucco

Throw me into the bucket of liking the cube.. It's nice to see some vertical on 4th.. Now the Ken Garf building is an eyesore..

RosePark · #**8947** Posted **May 30, 2014, 9:49 PM**

Does anyone have an update on the former Zim's Building? Last I saw, they removed the ugly cladding, but didn't see like there was much progress for awhile.

Comrade · #**8948** Posted **May 30, 2014, 10:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by wrendog

I think I'm the only one that loves the cube. I think it's rad.

I like it too. It's at least interesting, and unique enough that it could become a status building for the city. Here are some renderings of other federal courthouses going up around the U.S.:

Buffalo:

Los Angeles:

Newport News:

Tulsa:

Austin:

Nashville:

Orlando:

Most those aren't great, and some downright boring. At least ours initiates discussion.

Scraperdude801 · #**8949** Posted **May 30, 2014, 11:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by Comrade

I like it too. It's at least interesting, and unique enough that it could become a status building for the city. Here are some renderings of other federal courthouses going up around the U.S.:

Nashville:

That Nashville one is very cool. I wish that was ours. Would look awesome on the corner of 400 S and W Temple

delts145 · #**8950** Posted **May 30, 2014, 11:29 PM**

Thanks for those pics on the Westgate and Telegraph Orlando. This new rendering of the Westgate is a lot more of an elaborate redo than the original proposal and rendering.

SLC Projects · #**8951** Posted **May 30, 2014, 11:40 PM**

Wow, comparing those other Courthouse Renderings just makes me like ours even more. Ours is like the tallest and biggest out of all of those. Even LA's might be just as big or a little bit smaller then ours.

ToysNoiz · #**8952** Posted **May 30, 2014, 11:51 PM**

LA's is a copy cat. Nashville's is ugly, IMO. Buffalo's is cool.

Future Mayor · #**8953** Posted **May 31, 2014, 1:10 AM**

I am loving what Clearwater homes is doing as far as urban living goes.

I have wanted and hoped for 15+ years that someone would turn the Telegraph building into lofts. It's in the 9th & 9th neighborhood and I really think 9th& 9th needs some serious density surrounding it, to allow it to thrive and grow. I'd love to see the west end of Smith's parking lot be used as a road to connect to Chase Ave, or even a landscaped walkway from 800 S to Chase Ave. It could be pretty safe with the right lighting.

Clearwater is also the developer that took over the Broadway Park lofts. I am glad they have a vested interest in making the west side of downtown a vibrant neighborhood. I do however wish that with Westgate that they would lower the parking that is up against 300 W to below grade, and build a 2-3 story building along 300 W with some retail and possibly some additional lofts or offices on the 2 or 3rd floor. This could be done in the future I guess, when the demand for that parcel is higher.

Old&New · #**8954** Posted **May 31, 2014, 1:12 AM**

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Originally Posted by utenation

Throw me into the bucket of liking the cube.. It's nice to see some vertical on 4th.. Now the Ken Garf building is an eyesore..

I love the Ken Garf Building, and the Borg Cube. So there!

ryerop · #**8955** Posted **May 31, 2014, 1:37 AM**

I know I already said that I like the "borg cube", but especially after seeing those other courthouses, ours is even better now. Give it a few years and once some development happens in the parking lot across from it that I believe the church owns, and once the Air building is completed right there by it that area is going to add so much to what the city has going on in that part of it

Comrade · #**8956** Posted **May 31, 2014, 1:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by Old&New

I love the Ken Garf Building, and the Borg Cube. So there!

Me too. The Ken Garff Building is a great example of International Style architecture and historic for being Salt Lake's first modern tower.

ToysNoiz · #**8957** Posted **May 31, 2014, 2:08 AM**

^^^^

Wow, I didn't realize it was that old.

Comrade · #**8958** Posted **May 31, 2014, 2:16 AM**

There is some good history behind it. Salt Lake was actually growing its skyline pretty nicely between 1900 and the 1920s, but everything was undone by the Great Depression, as Utah was one of the hardest states hit. The last major development in downtown SLC prior to the Great Depression was the Hotel Monaco, which opened in 1924. It wasn't until 1955, 30 years later, that Salt Lake saw any type of significant development with the First Security Building. It really was the first indication Salt Lake had finally pulled through the Great Depression and was ready to experience growth again.

ToysNoiz · #**8959** Posted **May 31, 2014, 2:52 AM**

Man, if the Great Depression never happened, or if Utah wasn't hit as hard as it was, our skyline could've been more interesting. We have a very aesthetically pleasing skyline, but I'd love to have more buildings like Monaco and Walker center. I'd hate to see any go.

Old&New · #**8960** Posted **May 31, 2014, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by ToysNoiz

Man, if the Great Depression never happened, or if Utah wasn't hit as hard as it was, our skyline could've been more interesting. We have a very aesthetically pleasing skyline, but I'd love to have more buildings like Monaco and Walker center. I'd hate to see any go.

I'd hate to see any go as well. We don't want a repeat of the Hotel Newhouse demolition in 1983.