CHICAGO | Highrise Projects & Construction

[BraveNewWorld]

Wasn't there an whole article about Jeanne Gang and this developer being friends after working on Aqua ? Maybe that will give her some leverage for getting this done the right way. At the very least he probably won't destroy her work out of respect. Of course, this is all wishful thinking..

[Skyguy_7]

Not bad, LVDW. In the words of TUP:

That.
Would be.
The shit.

[Bambi]

Originally Posted by wierdaaron

Life from art

lives up to username, and an imagurian as well...

[ardecila]

Actually, this building might work better if the three vertical towers were actually conjoined instead of being separate. Each of the floorplates would average out roughly the same area-wise, and you'd only have 5-10 different floorplate designs depending on the height of each "frustum". (assuming you're not trying to put larger units toward the top)

Anyway, this is all pretty ridiculous as we are going off of a thirdhand verbal description of a complex architectural idea. LVDW's sketch looks uncomfortably Dubai-esque to me, so I will have to see how Gang handles the details. The cutout for Field Blvd might require some kind of sky lobby.

[denizen467]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

This:

Excuse my shitty 10 min sketch, but you get the picture. ...
Of course I have no idea what this actually looks like, but just trying to demonstrate the general massing Pilsenarch seems to be describing.

Well that is a kickass effort, both drawing it and posting it for everybody. In the future we need more spies making good descriptions and more sketch efforts offering visuals. Also, bank robbers of the world beware, because any bystander accounts of suspects' faces will now lead to immediate and accurate "wanted" posters on SSP.

Anyway, the noninverted-inverted stacked frustum idea should be cool no matter what, so I can't wait for them to finalize design and publish renders.

[pilsenarch]

AMAZING, Louis.... not it EXACTLY, but very darn close...

I'm not sure to be more impressed with your ability to sketch it or my ability to describe it...

oh, and it IS one building and continuous floor plates, more or less...

[LouisVanDerWright]

Lol thanks guys, it's fairly shitty, those angles are hard to draw without a ruler. I could probably have done it better with a straight edge. I used to draw perspective cities as a hobby instead of paying attention in school. I would have gone to architecture school if it weren't impossible to get a good job in that field. I'd love to be like David Hovey some day and design and build my own work.

When it comes to elevators, I am sure it could be easily done by just causing the forms to overlap more allowing elevators to run up the legs and serve the upper floors.

Just as disclaimer, I've never seen this design and just based the massing off of the description Pilsen Arch gave. This just makes sense to when it comes to talk of Trapezoidal windows and given the recent trajectory of her work. The horizontal lines are only on there to emphasize the massing of the intersecting frustrums. I'm sure the exact sizing and massing is much more refined than my scribble, but I don't know what else PilsenArch could have been describing on that site. There are only so many ways to "weave" frustrums in a tripple bundled tube that straddles a roadway.

[marothisu]

I was having a block trying to imagine it and then LVDW came along with the awesome sketch. Now it makes sense if that's pretty close... I wonder if the changes in angle are rounder too on the outer edges

[SamInTheLoop]

Just to add to the praise of that sketch - truly incredible to throw together in 10 mins, based on the description we all read, and without a ruler. Seriously, LVDW, you should become a Hovey - because we sure could use more who do what he does......

I'm still having a little difficulty with the elevators if the center 'tube' is the tallest.....I get the point re more overlap, however, would this necessitate some sort of altered frustums in the bottom couple sections (where the center 'tube' doesn't exist)? Could be wrong, as I might just have trouble visualizing that, but even if it is the case, that's not to say that Gang couldn't handle that transition well and keep the integrity of the overall design....

Finally, now I'm left to wonder, maybe worry - for the next few months at least - if LVDW's talent is perhaps setting us up for a disappointment when the design is unveiled, due to any ve/changes that have occurred in the time since Pilsenarch had seen it (sounds like enough time may have passed already for substantial changes?)....

Second finally, just to reiterate Ardecila's point - there is of course a certain silliness to all of this.....then again, what Pilsenarch saw may end up being materially close to the final design, and with his reaction to LVDW's work...........

[LouisVanDerWright]

^^^ Yeah, I could be totally wrong, but something tells me that at least the general layout of the geometry is accurate. I'm sure the angles and dimensions of the frustrums are totally different than what I drew, but if it really is stacked frustrums in a tripple bundled tube, that's the only way you could do it.

When it comes to the elevator thing, what you'd probably have to do is make the two side sets of frustrums broader (i.e. more rectangular pyramids than the square ones I pictured) so that they could "overlap" with the middle structure.

Originally Posted by marothisu

I was having a block trying to imagine it and then LVDW came along with the awesome sketch. Now it makes sense if that's pretty close... I wonder if the changes in angle are rounder too on the outer edges

Yes, I'm sure my sketch exaggerates all the angles, I intentionally exaggerated the shapes because it would emphasize the general massing which is what I was trying to show. I highly doubt anything as geometrically adventurous as this would ever actually get built, but I can see a similar scheme with more gentle undulations being what Gang is going for.

Makes me wonder why she wouldn't do the same thing, but with upside down frustums stacked on each other like three piles of chinese takeout boxes? Then the environmental justification would be more sound.

[Chicago Shawn]

Originally Posted by SamInTheLoop

Other Streeterville observations from earlier in the week: Still no activity whatsoever on Golub 545 N McClurg site/former RIC surface lot..........also, new RIC moving ahead at a nice clip now - tower portion of overall site now has 2 complete levels framed, and it must have one of the largest if not the single largest core I've seen - as it begins to rise at least - in terms of downtown office/institutional construction projects (so of course meaning all downtown projects) over the past ~15 years....

RIC's bulk is going to take alot of people by surprise. Imagine a solid cube of glass, up to 50' taller than McClurg Court Center's twin towers and filling the entire empty half of the block where work is now underway. Its going add some great visual density, diversity and will instantly canyonize Ontario and McClurg while adding an actual streetwall unlike the skinny and slender footprints of the residential towers built recently.

[scalziand]

Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

Makes me wonder why she wouldn't do the same thing, but with upside down frustums stacked on each other like three piles of chinese takeout boxes? Then the environmental justification would be more sound.

That'd be similar to Taipei 101 then, ( where's a that joke diagram someone did of it with the stack of takeout containers when you need it)

Here it is

http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=6768

[pilsenarch]

the center tube is not the tallest... and, for what it's worth, the proportions and hard edges of Louis' sketch are pretty much spot on...

[LouisVanDerWright]

droool


Jeanne Gang is building us an Archaeology...


some guy on imageshack

[marothisu]

805 N LaSalle has a website now:
http://www.805lasalle.com/

Very minimal site not giving away much information other than stuff like "A new rental concept in Chicago living" and "At the intersection of love and meme" and "At the intersection of taboo and tatoo." Looks like it will be called "Eight O Five"

[ardecila]

^ lol wtf

[Busy Bee]

Looks like some design newbie was thrilled to be able to channel Armin Hoffman.

[wierdaaron]

I thought it was at the intersection of LaSalle Street and Chicago Avenue.

[spyguy]

Orleans & Walton
227 apartments, 152 parking spots, retail

[denizen467]

Originally Posted by Mr Downtown

Wait. The designer of the world's largest radiator now wants to be "green?"

Thanks for the continued vigilance against cliches and propaganda, Mr Downtown (yes, even when it's J Gang; sometimes she's just helping the developer spout anyway).

Originally Posted by pilsenarch

the center tube is not the tallest...

Which may be ok, because it's possible to look at the LVDW sketch and see the Tin Man or a decepticon...