YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 295

casper · #**5881** Posted **May 27, 2014, 12:32 PM**

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Originally Posted by deasine

Well there haven't been many considering they are now cutting it. What is worrying however is that the planes replacing them seem to have the old J seats... meaning any possibility of lie-flat (as opposed to angled lie-flat) is being cut all together now.

You will just have to connect in Calgary or Toronto onto Air Canda.

Valley_Refugee · #**5882** Posted **May 27, 2014, 4:45 PM**

Flights to HNL and OGG have been rouge'd, as expected
(+ a new twice weekly non-stop rouge between YYZ-HNL):

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1361925/air-canada-rouge-expands-to-hawaii

Denscity · #**5883** Posted **May 27, 2014, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Flights to HNL and OGG have been rouge'd, as expected
(+ a new daily rouge between YYZ-HNL):

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1361925/air-canada-rouge-expands-to-hawaii

Toronto to Honolulu nonstop? That's a heck of a long flight. Or is it a one-stop in YVR?

Valley_Refugee · #**5884** Posted **May 27, 2014, 6:54 PM**

Sorry, edited. Yes, it is non-stop but it is twice weekly, not daily.

deasine · #**5885** Posted **May 27, 2014, 7:00 PM**

That will definitely rival UAs EWR-HNL, though I believe UA uses an int'l configured plane (with domestic service, i.e. no complimentary food and pay IFE).

zahav · #**5886** Posted **May 28, 2014, 5:53 AM**

the first phase of AB pier is supposed to have more food options yes, i will try and see what they have proposed.. btw, opening of first phase is delayed to mid June

cyeg66 · #**5887** Posted **May 28, 2014, 4:54 PM**

Wow, April numbers posted. Very impressive. +9.3% by my count, just behind YYC's +9.6%.
http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Maps/1992-2014_Enplaned_and_Deplaned_Passengers_Apr_2014.sflb.ashx

International way up 12%!

Denscity · #**5888** Posted **May 28, 2014, 7:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by cyeg66

Wow, April numbers posted. Very impressive. +9.3% by my count, just behind YYC's +9.6%.
http://www.yvr.ca/Libraries/Maps/1992-2014_Enplaned_and_Deplaned_Passengers_Apr_2014.sflb.ashx

International way up 12%!

Sick!! And that International increase is ridiculous!!

Come on 20 million!!

Johnny Aussie · #**5889** Posted **May 28, 2014, 7:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Sick!! And that International increase is ridiculous!!

Come on 20 million!!

Record April for overall (up ~ 125,000), domestic (up ~ 56,000), transborder (up ~ 35,000), Europe (up ~ 12,000) and Asia Pacific (up ~ 26,000). Fantastic 8% YTD growth too. YVR should do a press release with numbers this big.

The only sector seeing a dip is miscellaneous int'l (sun destinations). Down about 1,300 pax. Wonder why that is?

Winter capacity showing even more upticks with rouge's latest YVR moves:

HNL and OGG back to daily next winter (last year both were dropped to 6 weekly). So with more seats squeezed onto the rouge 763s that is a big bump to Hawaii capacity.

LAS going DOUBLE DAILY rouge 319s starting November for the winter scheds.

PHX NEW daily rouge 319 (already reported).

SFO the 3 daily rouge 319s replacing the 3 daily E90s last winter is a 40% increase in seats.

LAX dropping to 3 daily rouge 319s down from 4 daily E90s last winter. Overall though a capacity bump of about 5% to LAX.

There is also the possibility of a new PSP flight.

LeftCoaster · #**5890** Posted **May 28, 2014, 8:14 PM**

Given the amount of new flights starting up soon, the larger plans being used on existing routes and what seems like generally high load factors what do you think the odds are YVR breaks 20 million this year?

If it keeps its current growth up it looks like 19.5 million is in its sights, but is there a chance the bigger growth is coming due to upcoming route starts and plane changes?

Johnny Aussie · #**5891** Posted **May 28, 2014, 10:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Given the amount of new flights starting up soon, the larger plans being used on existing routes and what seems like generally high load factors what do you think the odds are YVR breaks 20 million this year?

If it keeps its current growth up it looks like 19.5 million is in its sights, but is there a chance the bigger growth is coming due to upcoming route starts and plane changes?

Who knows huh?

But with the winter scheds all showing all the above mentioned additional rouge flying + bigger birds on AC to LHR, HKG, PVG and NRT (however, still not showing 787 yet) for the entire winter next year + the new ANA flights to HND + bigger birds on LH to FRA + EVA Air continuing with 4 weekly year-round + DL new flights to SEA + Sunwing additional flying + I expect more to come anyway.... did I miss anything?

On the downside, China Eastern appears to be pulling back to only 1 daily for the winter and Philippine is switching back to the 343 instead of the 773.

Overall though capacity appears to be heading in a constant significant upward direction.

Gordon · #**5892** Posted **May 29, 2014, 12:54 AM**

According to YVR's website Mu is running 9 flights/ week in june.

Canadian74 · #**5893** Posted **May 29, 2014, 3:53 AM**

YVR needs 11.3% overall growth to break 20 million. Honestly 20 million is long overdue for a city like Vancouver. I hope it happens as soon as possible. Ironically, YYC also needs almost the same growth in % terms (11.8%) growth so it can bypass the 15 million mark and go straight to 16 million.

trofirhen · #**5894** Posted **May 29, 2014, 11:04 AM**

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Originally Posted by Canadian74

YVR needs 11.3% overall growth to break 20 million. Honestly 20 million is long overdue for a city like Vancouver. I hope it happens as soon as possible. Ironically, YYC also needs almost the same growth in % terms (11.8%) growth so it can bypass the 15 million mark and go straight to 16 million.

Despite the YYZ hegemony (which has surprisingly eclipsed YUL down to fourth place!) it's great to see YVR and YYC booming ahead. Canadian economic power shifts westward, even if only moderately. I'll be thrilled when YVR becomes that China-South America (Lima, maybe São Paulo) connection hub!!

cyeg66 · #**5895** Posted **May 29, 2014, 2:02 PM**

Canada needs another airport over 20 million, purely for bragging purposes.

It would move YVR up into that next, more prestigious, more recognized echelon of international airports, with the likes of the Brisbane's, Copenhagen's, Zurich's, Brussels', LaGuardia's (

), Oslo's (I could go on and on) of this world. Puts it more "on the map", so to speak. Stop slumming with the YYC and YUL's of this world...

Likely won't happen this year but 2015 will be the banner year. It's been a long time coming and overdue, I might add. Took too long to recover from 2008 levels.

whatnext · #**5896** Posted **May 29, 2014, 3:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Will the pier A \B connector project also include an incease iin Food & beverage services for that part of the airport?

I notice there's now a Tim Horton's on Miller Road in the cargo strip.

connect2source · #**5897** Posted **May 29, 2014, 4:55 PM**

So far YVR is up about 7.65% YTD, at that rate we'll hit about 19,346,732 by year-end. We do, however, have some months ahead that will likely exceed the rate of growth but 20M will still be a challenge for 2014.

casper · #**5898** Posted **May 30, 2014, 1:09 AM**

What would make for an interesting AC Rogue flight is Miami. Some connecting traffic off the Asia flights, plus all the local tourist traffic.

Kapten · #**5899** Posted **May 30, 2014, 2:28 AM**

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Originally Posted by casper

What would make for an interesting AC Rogue flight is Miami. Some connecting traffic off the Asia flights, plus all the local tourist traffic.

Supposedly Florida is the most-visited US state by Canadians. So why do we lack non-stop flights there? Do people just prefer to drive?

trofirhen · #**5900** Posted **May 30, 2014, 2:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Kapten

Supposedly Florida is the most-visited US state by Canadians. So why do we lack non-stop flights there? Do people just prefer to drive?

No, they go through YYZ, plus it's mostly Eastern Canadians that go there, whereas Vancouverites and Albertans prefer California and Hawaii. It's largely a matter of proximity.