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Old Posted May 26, 2014, 1:40 AM
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New buses - colour

Apologies if this has been discussed already - I did try a search and couldn't find anything.

Is it my imagination or are the new buses (~8204+) a "redder" red than the older buses (i.e. 8166-82xx + 6000-607x) ? To me the older ones' colour seems a bit orangier than the red of the new ones.

Just a comment really but wondering if anyone else has noticed the same.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2014, 3:45 PM
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Apologies if this has been discussed already - I did try a search and couldn't find anything.

Is it my imagination or are the new buses (~8204+) a "redder" red than the older buses (i.e. 8166-82xx + 6000-607x) ? To me the older ones' colour seems a bit orangier than the red of the new ones.

Just a comment really but wondering if anyone else has noticed the same.
I think the red skirts on the top (would they be a head dress then?) of the new busses add to their pop.
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Old Posted May 26, 2014, 9:57 PM
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Apologies if this has been discussed already - I did try a search and couldn't find anything.

Is it my imagination or are the new buses (~8204+) a "redder" red than the older buses (i.e. 8166-82xx + 6000-607x) ? To me the older ones' colour seems a bit orangier than the red of the new ones.

Just a comment really but wondering if anyone else has noticed the same.
It's because these new buses are painted. Most of the other red buses (save the most recent refurbs) have been decaled.
     
     
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Old Posted May 26, 2014, 10:04 PM
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Connect fare system is coming back
saw card readers on bus 8143 & 8145

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Old Posted May 28, 2014, 11:49 PM
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Google is still years if not decades from a completely autonomous vehicle, currently the AI is far more cautious than your typical driver, defaulting often to the driver. (see the Atlantic Cities article from April) [Link]
Latest on google driverless car.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/cms/binary/9884835.jpg

These aren’t driverless cars; they’re driverless taxis, perpetually in motion and powered by Google’s detailed knowledge of traffic flow, its carefully analysed sense of demand and the knowledge that even on a quiet residential street, people need to get places. Tap a button on your smartphone and you’ll find that the car you need is not minutes away, but yards. It’s worth noting that Google has already invested heavily in Uber, a cab firm that does away with a central office, albeit not yet the driver. It's the ultimate just-in-time delivery system.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/go...s-driverless-cars-change-everything.html
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 2:14 AM
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Connect fare system is coming back
saw card readers on bus 8143 & 8145
Just curious, will this new system upset the brisk trade in UPass stickers?
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 4:50 PM
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Just curious, will this new system upset the brisk trade in UPass stickers?
Potentially. Depends on if the new electronic fare is something integrated into the student OneCard or still a sticker (and I've heard the latter is a possibility for cost reasons)
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 5:38 PM
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Potentially. Depends on if the new electronic fare is something integrated into the student OneCard or still a sticker (and I've heard the latter is a possibility for cost reasons)
The University's ID cards are already used for access control, tap your card in the elevator to access the basement for instance. If the card readers used by Calgary Transit are compatible with the Siemens system used at the University (I don't know if these things are usually proprietary or an industry-standard type thing), then the implementation should not be that difficult, no?
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 5:43 PM
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The University's ID cards are already used for access control, tap your card in the elevator to access the basement for instance. If the card readers used by Calgary Transit are compatible with the Siemens system used at the University (I don't know if these things are usually proprietary or an industry-standard type thing), then the implementation should not be that difficult, no?
I doubt they will be compatible. There are numerous implementations, plus it requires something being setup to allow the UofC system to feed information to the CT system. Easier/cheaper to just have CT provide a box of RFID stickers that are preloaded in their system and stick them on (and I say this as I work in IT at the University, its doable to link them but I doubt we'd do it)
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 6:48 PM
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Latest on google driverless car.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/cms/binary/9884835.jpg

These aren’t driverless cars; they’re driverless taxis, perpetually in motion and powered by Google’s detailed knowledge of traffic flow, its carefully analysed sense of demand and the knowledge that even on a quiet residential street, people need to get places. Tap a button on your smartphone and you’ll find that the car you need is not minutes away, but yards. It’s worth noting that Google has already invested heavily in Uber, a cab firm that does away with a central office, albeit not yet the driver. It's the ultimate just-in-time delivery system.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/go...s-driverless-cars-change-everything.html
I noticed in the past that there have been people saying that these self-driving cars would replace public transit.

In my opinion, I don't think it will ever happen. Instead, yes, taxis and car-sharing networks would suffer greatly. Self-driving cars will always be more expensive to buy than regular cars. That means those who cannot afford a car will not afford self-driving cars--plain and simple.

Transit will always be cheaper to commute. Like drivers, people would still have to weigh the balance between convenience and cost to use these cars.

In downtown, roads will always be limited. For the same reasons as drivers, self-driving car users would complain and wanted either widen the roads or other people to take transit to free up traffic. Transit still wins in congested places.

Think about it. If I want to start a car-sharing networking business with self-driving cars, I would price it between car-sharing and taxis. That is assuming self-driving cars have become mainstream.

My two cents.
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 7:36 PM
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I doubt they will be compatible. There are numerous implementations, plus it requires something being setup to allow the UofC system to feed information to the CT system. Easier/cheaper to just have CT provide a box of RFID stickers that are preloaded in their system and stick them on (and I say this as I work in IT at the University, its doable to link them but I doubt we'd do it)
If they are anything like the rest of the access card systems having two RFID antenna next to each other like that will result in neither working as the reader will attempt to read both simultaneously.
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Old Posted May 29, 2014, 7:38 PM
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Potentially. Depends on if the new electronic fare is something integrated into the student OneCard or still a sticker (and I've heard the latter is a possibility for cost reasons)
My hope is that the system will be compatible with the NFC implementation on phones, having an app that I would be able to purchase and use tickets and passes through would be the bees knees.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 6:02 PM
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Ctrain recorded 310 000 per weekday in Q1

616 000 for total transit!!!
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 7:46 PM
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Ctrain recorded 310 000 per weekday in Q1

616 000 for total transit!!!
Any idea what the Q1 #s were for 2013 and 2012?
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 7:52 PM
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Any numbers for individual legs?
     
     
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 8:32 PM
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Any numbers for individual legs?
About 155 000 left legs and an equal number of right legs. More or less.
Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 9:13 PM
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You know what's brutal about this, is if in 2 years we have full 4 car service, and our ridership is say 350k for LRT, the fullness will be similar to maybe 2008/2009 levels, and potentially 5 years later we'll be back to 2014 fullness.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2014, 9:20 PM
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You know what's brutal about this, is if in 2 years we have full 4 car service, and our ridership is say 350k for LRT, the fullness will be similar to maybe 2008/2009 levels, and potentially 5 years later we'll be back to 2014 fullness.
meanwhile Edmonton has spacious 5-car trains waiting to be filled. go figure!
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Looks like we will have about 0.52 trips per capita per day. That is unbelievable. I don't have the numbers on me right now, but that is amazing. Close to Toronto and Vancouver and absolutely trouncing most other cities in North America.
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