SkyTrain Station Renovations

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by Mac Write

The elevator is very small. they should have had it edge to edge with a big middle door. That would help capacity issues, instead of people having to wait. 2 wheelchairs will fill the new elevator.

there will be a 2nd new elevator on the West Station House. so Capacity issues should not be like they were in the past or now even.

[Mac Write]

Still the new one is only about 1-2ft wider then the current one at most. They could have down a wider elevator with a centre door. it would have doubled the size and provided help for those who can't walk down stairs (a down escalator also should have been added).

[McPaul]

is "Train2Main" just a rebranding to acknowledge the construction completion milestone? or does it have any further meaning than that?

[DKaz]

The east elevator will see less use than the reopened west elevator because it services Science World. I've been stuck in two to three elevator waits at the station before with my kids in the stroller.

[officedweller]

Great shots! Looks pretty futuristic in there.

Originally Posted by McPaul

is "Train2Main" just a rebranding to acknowledge the construction completion milestone? or does it have any further meaning than that?

Train2Main is the short 2-car shuttle that services Main St. Station during construction.
All other trains are too long to fit on the platform while it is under construction, so they bypass Main St. Station.

Train2Main is the only train to Main St Station.

[Millennium2002]

I took a look at the station today... can confirm that the east station elevator has space for 2 wheelchairs at best. It looks a little small floorspace-wise vs the Canada Line elevators... although the glass does make it feel less claustrophobic. And boy is it fast too!

Anyway, given the loads of people who have wheelchairs or strollers, one could say that the accessibility part of the station was half-baked... although there are comparable elevators that have these same small dimensions (Lougheed TC in particular). In any case, what's there is now there and people will have to get used to it.

I also noticed that:

- Bike racks are partially installed in the Secure Bike Parking area, which is nice.

- People tend to naturally pathfind into the nearest open door/gate... but from the bus loop side, that means hitting the TVM / ticket purchasing area first. And from there you have to go out the gate again and one door/gate down to the actual fare-gates. Sounds confusing? It was sure confusing to have to go around the station like that.

- The Train2Main cars barely fit on the platform... the first/last doors are like half blocked by the construction zone. Not sure why they chose to do that...

[Mac Write]

The space to the old escalator is 4ft, and they will need that to remove it. Very entertaining.

[jlousa]

I wouldn't be surprised is a train to main style train becomes permanent once the evergreen line comes online. From what I've heard Translink is quite happy with how the system is managing with it.

Just to clarify, every 3rd train could short turn at Broadway to ease congestion along the busiest section, all trains would still stop at all stations after broadway.

[Millennium2002]

Originally Posted by Mac Write

The space to the old escalator is 4ft, and they will need that to remove it. Very entertaining.

I guess the better question then is... why not just remove a glass panel for each track on the finished end to let passengers disembark easier during this next phase of construction...?

[hollywoodnorth]

Originally Posted by jlousa

I wouldn't be surprised is a train to main style train becomes permanent once the evergreen line comes online. From what I've heard Translink is quite happy with how the system is managing with it.

Just to clarify, every 3rd train could short turn at Broadway to ease congestion along the busiest section, all trains would still stop at all stations after broadway.

funny I was about to post something similar. Especially with the new platform to be built at Broadway it will be a great way to add capacity to the core segment of Expo Line.

[officedweller]

Before the Train2Main, didn't they already short-turn trains at Broadway-Commercial during rush hours?

One of those capacity studies showed short-turning of trains at Metrotown (i.e. assuming the congested segment runs farther east).

[jlousa]

They have occasionally (believe during power rail work) run trains back not in service to Broadway and then back into service for the d/t run.

[BurnabyAaron]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Before the Train2Main, didn't they already short-turn trains at Broadway-Commercial during rush hours?

One of those capacity studies showed short-turning of trains at Metrotown (i.e. assuming the congested segment runs farther east).

The Short-turn trains were only AM and only 1 way - From Broadway-Commercial to Waterfront. The train would run empty back to the pocket track near Naniamo.

[DKaz]

The only issue I can think of is staffing required to ensure that trains are emptied when they reach their short turn station. Or do they just not bother?

[dpogue]

Originally Posted by DKaz

The only issue I can think of is staffing required to ensure that trains are emptied when they reach their short turn station. Or do they just not bother?

My observation is that at Broadway the staff are partly stopping people from boarding, and partly telling passengers to get off the train. It's not a full walkthrough like it would be if the train were going out of service. That was also at rush hour though, so they might be more thorough when it's less busy. I remember an earlier post from someone saying that staff wouldn't let them ride into the pocket.

Also referring to the point about Metrotown turn-backs, there is a pocket track just past Metrotown that can be used for turn-back trains. It's normally just used for storing trains except during track maintenance or service problems.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by dpogue

My observation is that at Broadway the staff are partly stopping people from boarding, and partly telling passengers to get off the train. It's not a full walkthrough like it would be if the train were going out of service.

The consequences of accidentally being on a short turn train are a lot less severe than being on a train going out of service...

[Meraki]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

The consequences of accidentally being on a short turn train are a lot less severe than being on a train going out of service...

Yeah. Staying on the Train2Main at Broadway just means you turn around and end up on the other platform, much like Waterfront.

[Waders]

Scott Road SkyTrain station upgrades completed.
Source

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by Waders

Scott Road SkyTrain station upgrades completed.
Source

Interesting tidbit from the article:

TransLink vice-president Bob Paddon said part of the work would be to determine whether to move to five-car trains — the current Expo SkyTrains are four-car — since the upgrades also extend station platforms to fit longer vehicles.

He said a decision on longer trains wouldn’t be made until after new transit funding is decided.

http://vancouver.24hrs.ca/2014/05/21/scott-road-skytrain-station-upgrades-complete

[officedweller]

From your favourite source -

Broadway and Commercial renderings showing new 3rd platform.

The wide new platform is on the right with the column trees.
Presumably, the column trees and the truss on the west side of the new roof will support the Expo station truss
(which currently relies on the Safeway wall for support)

http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/06/drama...ion-upgrade-include-additional-platform/



















All images from TransLink.