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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 2:13 PM
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250 unit, 170 foot residential building at 230 N Columbus Blvd. By-right and expected to break ground in July (!). Probably not going to win any aesthetic awards, but getting this built will be a big win for Delaware Ave.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/05/14/250-apartments-planned-for-site-near-ben-franklin-bridge

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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 2:15 PM
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http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/05/14/250-apartments-planned-for-site-near-ben-franklin-bridge

Same developer architect duo as 1900 Arch.

^^^^ The $65 million project, called 1 Water Street, is being designed by Varenhorst. Plans currently call for 166 one-bedroom and 84 two-bedroom apartments, although PMC Executive Vice President Jonathan Stavin said there is still discussion about including some three-bedroom units in the mix as well.

Materials selection is not complete, but there will be “a significant amount of glass and metal,” Stavin said. A panel system similar to the PMC project at 1900 Arch Street will be used on the 170-foot structure, he said.





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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 2:29 PM
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Very excited for this one. Article gets it right PMC actually gets things built. Across the street from Morgan's pier and diagonal from Race Street Pier. Should be successful.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 2:42 PM
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Very excited for this one. Article gets it right PMC actually gets things built. Across the street from Morgan's pier and diagonal from Race Street Pier. Should be successful.
Plus, it's significantly taller than the last incarnation of Marina View, so that should make at least some of you guys happy, right?
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 3:00 PM
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Ugh, the last thing we need to do is rip off another city's icon. Something completely unique, but classy and artistic - and at least 500'

Did you guys know there was a proposal for such a tower for the 1876 World's Fair in Philly? I'm sure it would have been torn down by now, but it would have been 1000 feet tall and would have looked like this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Centennial_Tower_Philadelphia_1876.jpeg


Not exactly what I'd want - it looks like a giant oil derrick. We'd need something with some style.
An oil derrick is the first thing I though of too, with that 1876 design.

If they were to do this, I would think the best place would be somewhere that is in alignment with the Ben Franklin parkway (for the best views).
The Fairmount Park plan says they want to realign Belmont Avenue, so why not create a big traffic circle at this alignment and put and observation/communications tower in the middle of that tower?

something like this?


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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 3:11 PM
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I have mentioned this before, but would ove if they replaced the Zoo Balloon with a "Fairmount Gondola"

They could include a ride with tickets for the Art Museum and/or Zoo, and sell rides separately too. It would provide another way to access the Zoo which is somewhat separated from the rest of the park, and maybe increase visitors to the Art Museum if they bundle the tickets with he Zoo... Also, this of the Views this would have (boat house row, Water works, museum, the river and bridges, center city skyline (with CITC!).



Could potentially continue on to the Please Touch Museum and the Mann Center as well.
Holy Sh*t that is awesome. If they could have an eastern entrance to the zoo, and let visitors combine passes like you said, a tourist or someone visiting could just take that right into the zoo. That would be amazing. The new fairmount thing asks for pedestrian bridges, but I think this could be a bigger attraction. As it is right now, you basically have to walk a highway to get there or walk all the way to girard ave! The view of the water fall and boathouse row would be amazing. Their released plan, however, seems more concerned with connecting each side of the river at points that are further west of girard.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 3:46 PM
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City's N. Broad St. plan in the works

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Clarke "will discuss economic incentives for developers interested in the Avenue of the Arts North project, including a 10-year property tax abatement for new commercial construction, low-interest loans, tax incentives and more."
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq-p...road-St-project.html#zgdpA2ds9f1ryMf8.99
That sounds like pretty huge news. Especially considering there is a lot of vacant CMX-4 up north broad.
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http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/05/14/250-apartments-planned-for-site-near-ben-franklin-bridge

Same developer architect duo as 1900 Arch.

^^^^ The $65 million project, called 1 Water Street, is being designed by Varenhorst. Plans currently call for 166 one-bedroom and 84 two-bedroom apartments, although PMC Executive Vice President Jonathan Stavin said there is still discussion about including some three-bedroom units in the mix as well.

Materials selection is not complete, but there will be “a significant amount of glass and metal,” Stavin said. A panel system similar to the PMC project at 1900 Arch Street will be used on the 170-foot structure, he said.




Maybe the Marina View thread needs to be reopened with an update as 1 Water Street and increased height
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 4:28 PM
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"A panel system similar to the PMC project at 1900 Arch Street will be used on the 170-foot structure, he said."

Oh NO, I hope not....looking at this project
closely, those panels just don't cut it.

Also, I just noticed, PMC likes the number "13" for floor counts. Must be lucky for them.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 5:16 PM
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Not to be an elitist douche, but why is that building offering low income housing? Considering how cheap NoLibs and Fishtown is, do we really need below market rate apartments right next to Morgan's Pier?
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 5:33 PM
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Maybe the Marina View thread needs to be reopened with an update as 1 Water Street and increased height
Nope. Marina View is dead dead dead. Everything about the site--up to and including its proposed address--is different. This is an entirely new project and so needs to have an entirely new page.
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Not to be an elitist douche, but why is that building offering low income housing? Considering how cheap NoLibs and Fishtown is, do we really need below market rate apartments right next to Morgan's Pier?
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On Water Street and Columbus, PMC is offering the larger-than-required public spaces and mixed-income component of the project in exchange for height bonuses. The project is within the Central Delaware Overlay district, which limits height to 100 feet unless developers provide one or more of the public benefits listed in the legislation.
http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/05/14/250-apartments-planned-for-site-near-ben-franklin-bridge
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 5:59 PM
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Nice project! Way better than the Marina View design. I made a separate thread for One Water Street.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 6:40 PM
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Ugh, the last thing we need to do is rip off another city's icon. Something completely unique, but classy and artistic - and at least 500'

Did you guys know there was a proposal for such a tower for the 1876 World's Fair in Philly? I'm sure it would have been torn down by now, but it would have been 1000 feet tall and would have looked like this:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_Centennial_Tower_Philadelphia_1876.jpeg


Not exactly what I'd want - it looks like a giant oil derrick. We'd need something with some style.
Yeah, it wouldn't have quite been the Eiffel Tower. And agreed, no rip offs. When I saw Washington Harbor's new, giant ferriss wheel I thought the Nation's Capitol of all places should have been better than to rip off the London Eye.

Have you ever seen pictures of the Tower of Light from the Sesquicentennial Exposition in Philadelphia? I don't think it was very tall but I wish it was still standing. If PennPraxis ever decides to include Girard Avenue in its master plan there might be good reason to build something unique in Centennial Park.
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Greetings friends,

I've been following this site for Philly skyscraper news for a long time, figured I should join, especially now with so much going on in Philadelphia.

Thanks to Summer and the rest of the gang for all the info, pics, etc over the past few years. Much appreciated. And keep it coming!
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 7:30 PM
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Walling off the river?

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Maybe the Marina View thread needs to be reopened with an update as 1 Water Street and increased height
I thought it was established that going with the Vancouver-style with new Delaware River housing (i.e. minimizing the 'wall' effect) was the preferred highrise vernacular.

This appears not to adhere to that principle.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 7:43 PM
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I thought it was established that going with the Vancouver-style with new Delaware River housing (i.e. minimizing the 'wall' effect) was the preferred highrise vernacular.

This appears not to adhere to that principle.
That seems to be the plan for Penn's Landing south of the bridge, at least that's what it looks like in the master plan. Still, this building could fit the bill if it weren't v-shaped. I'm not sure why it isn't two towers instead of one angled one. It seems like you could get more views and windows if it were two buildings instead of one.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:51 PM
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250 unit, 170 foot residential building at 230 N Columbus Blvd. By-right and expected to break ground in July (!). Probably not going to win any aesthetic awards, but getting this built will be a big win for Delaware Ave.

http://planphilly.com/articles/2014/05/14/250-apartments-planned-for-site-near-ben-franklin-bridge

I know I'll sound like a NIMBY but I don't think anything of substantial height should be so close to the bridge. It'll obscure views of the bridge unfortunately.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:54 PM
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Considering how cheap NoLibs and Fishtown is, do we really need below market rate apartments right next to Morgan's Pier?
No Libs is no longer cheap. The new construction there is really high. Fishtown for the amount of sq ft you get isn't really cheap anymore either.
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