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Originally Posted by Leo the Dog
When I see mid-rise development around the Broadway Curve or the 10/32nd St, I instantly think of Irvine, CA. Not a bad thing, but clusters of mid-rise districts adjacent to the freeway, aren't a bad use of land IMO of course.
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Does Irvine have a downtown core with a denser concentration of jobs, or is it mostly suburban office parks? I just see some of the companies that locate on the fringe of Tempe and think the city is missing out by not having that employment nearer to downtown. Much like Phoenix and the lack of PetSmart, Coldstone, etc. - they aren't premier companies, but a midrise district with GoDaddy (and the other "innovation, science, and tech" firms at the research park), Rio Salado College, Western International, and University of Phoenix presence would definitely be a catalyst for diversifying/filling out downtown's retail and residential scene. I don't know if the WIU building is for class space or just admin, but in this town, U of P jobs and the like are really one of the limited options for college graduates who want to stay in the area.
Keeping ASU grads downtown by adding to the employment options, adding a community college with an older demographic profile, and developing a midrise commercial district adjacent to downtown that wasn't lakeside (and, therefore, more affordable) could've solved quite a few of Tempe's missing links: graduate retention, mid-level employment, lack of diversity/people over 22, and would be a catalyst for urban residential options that cater toward families/workers (affordable), service retail in the core that's missing (libraries, grocery, home decor/hardware), and hopefully denser/higher development in downtown itself.
That's more of a "wish list" post - no city in the country prevents employment development from occurring throughout its limits. For Tempe, though, I just find it strange that it's satellite office parks have taller clusters of buildings than it's downtown. I just really see it as a lost opportunity, because there feels like there's an invisible barrier between the college/urban scene on Mill and the corporate/white-washed/stepford lake district. Maybe HFL3 will help by creating a physical connection, or Marina Heights since I think the SF jobs aren't as white collar as the KPMG/Microsoft/etc. at HFL (correct me if I'm wrong). Or, a Rio/Ash high rise, along with USA Place, directly downtown.
And, since I can't keep a post to even 3 paragraphs it seems, I'm not sure where such a midrise district would have developed anyway that provided the freeway visibility these companies desire, without intense land prices and within an area that would allow urban designed buildings.
1. Rio Salado (north and south), west of the bridges (freeway visibility/adjacent to downtown) with lower density spilling onto Farmer maybe, though the bridges are kind of a barrier to the walkable part of Tempe.
2. Greater intensity of development at Papago Park Center/the former Cardinals land/Lofts at Rio (freeway visibility + transit/amenities).
3. Lastly, if ASU were contained from overtaking most the prime land in the city, Rural-McClintock, Uni-Rio would be an option with freeway visibility and access to amenities/walkable on the west end.
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