YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion - Page 292

jlousa · #**5821** Posted **May 1, 2014, 4:05 PM**

Sure seems to be some hate for the guy, personally I'd envy being in that position. I take it as a compliment that of all the places this guy could be, he's chosen to make Vancouver one of those places. I'm sure he'll take some of his experiences here home with him and use them to improve things.
We are way off topic though, lets try to keep this about YVR.
What's the next big project at YVR after A/B pier completes?

Vin · #**5822** Posted **May 1, 2014, 4:54 PM**

Don't be jealous, the insatiable thirst for oil in the western world made the royalties rich in the first place. At least the crown prince is an educated and cultured man, but chose to own a property in a city full of yahoos and bums.

Valley_Refugee · #**5823** Posted **May 1, 2014, 4:58 PM**

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Just for comparison, Brisbane (BNE) handled over 21 million pax last year, and they're only the third city in Australia.
BTW, BNE has only one runway !! They're getting on to building the second.

Sorry, what is the comparison here? As another forumer mentioned, Brisbane is pretty isolated. Within a six-hour drive of Vancouver, there are probably 7-8 million people, including four relatively large population centres (Seattle, Portland, the Okanagan, southern Vancouver Island).

Forgive me if I misinterpret the tone of your post, but you tend to put down YVR a lot without any sort of back up to it.

trofirhen · #**5824** Posted **May 1, 2014, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by Valley_Refugee

Sorry, what is the comparison here? As another forumer mentioned, Brisbane is pretty isolated. Within a six-hour drive of Vancouver, there are probably 7-8 million people, including four relatively large population centres (Seattle, Portland, the Okanagan, southern Vancouver Island).

Forgive me if I misinterpret the tone of your post, but you tend to put down YVR a lot without any sort of back up to it.

It just surprised me that Brisbane, a somewhat regional city in Australia, (although the closest Aussie destination to a lot of the world air mile-wise, I will admit) would outstrip YVR pax numbers by 2 million, that's all.
However, as spaceprobe pointed out, it's far from just about everything except other Australian cities, whereas from Vancouver, you can drive or take a bus to anywhere in North America, lessening the dependence on air travel.
Having had that pointed out, the BNE pax numbers make a lot more sense.
And no, I'm not putting YVR down at all. I'm waiting for the day when we hit 20 million pax annually, and perhaps have 4 or 5 more key destination points overseas.

Hourglass · #**5825** Posted **May 2, 2014, 12:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

It just surprised me that Brisbane, a somewhat regional city in Australia, (although the closest Aussie destination to a lot of the world air mile-wise, I will admit) would outstrip YVR pax numbers by 2 million, that's all.
However, as spaceprobe pointed out, it's far from just about everything except other Australian cities, whereas from Vancouver, you can drive or take a bus to anywhere in North America, lessening the dependence on air travel.
Having had that pointed out, the BNE pax numbers make a lot more sense.
And no, I'm not putting YVR down at all. I'm waiting for the day when we hit 20 million pax annually, and perhaps have 4 or 5 more key destination points overseas.

It's not just BNE. Sydney's population is smaller than Toronto yet passenger figures at SYD are higher than YYZ.

Part of it is geography. It also seems to me that Australia's air transport regime tends to be more open than Canada's -- with all the opportunities and debate that comes along with more liberal bilaterals. The ME3 airlines have significant market share on Australia-Europe routes and Qantas has been taking a beating. You won't see that in Canada.

trofirhen · #**5826** Posted **May 2, 2014, 12:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by Hourglass

It's not just BNE. Sydney's population is smaller than Toronto yet passenger figures at SYD are higher than YYZ.

Part of it is geography. It also seems to me that Australia's air transport regime tends to be more open than Canada's -- with all the opportunities and debate that comes along with more liberal bilaterals. The ME3 airlines have significant market share on Australia-Europe routes and Qantas has been taking a beating. You won't see that in Canada.

Yes, I've heard about how that bit deeply into Qantas profit margin. They really did take a beating.
Also, other European airlines have complained how (mostly) Emirates have drawn off a lot of their blood.
Nevertheless, when this air-routes-to-India-conundrum is straightened out (AC and Air India codeshare possible) withe 787s, I still hope that YVR will snag a couple of key destinations like not only Delhi, but Lima (coming up, it seems), Istanbul, Kuala Lumpur .... maybe even CDG (

), Melbourne .....

Gordon · #**5827** Posted **May 2, 2014, 3:55 AM**

How many gates will open with phase 1 at the end of may?

zahav · #**5828** Posted **May 2, 2014, 5:36 AM**

3 new gates, B18, B27, B2i8. you can see below where they are located (the red text is the new gate #s in the domestic terminal after May 6, all gates will be renumbered as shown. credit my work..

Genauso · #**5829** Posted **May 2, 2014, 5:39 AM**

Air travel is a lot more popular in Australia, maybe the first in the world per capita. Their wage boom aside, they live near a lot of exotic and cheap destinations.

Genauso · #**5830** Posted **May 2, 2014, 5:44 AM**

1984 YVR - Vancouver Airport as seen from a helicopter…:

• Video Link

nname · #**5831** Posted **May 2, 2014, 7:30 AM**

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Originally Posted by zahav

3 new gates, B18, B27, B2i8. you can see below where they are located (the red text is the new gate #s in the domestic terminal after May 6, all gates will be renumbered as shown. credit my work..

I'm surprised they are actually using the number B13...

I wonder why B24 and B25 are skipped. Are they going to extend the B-pier outward to add 2 more gates in the future?

connect2source · #**5832** Posted **May 2, 2014, 1:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Genauso

1984 YVR - Vancouver Airport as seen from a helicopter…:

• Video Link

(edit)WOW!! Amazing find!! The original domestic terminal was such a magnificent piece of architecture, almost perfectly symmetrical with beautiful stonework, it's a shame not more of it was preserved.

Pacific Western Airlines ( PWA ) was sort of the Westjet of those days, later merged with CP Air ( and other airlines ) to become Canadi>n, an extremely rare sighting being a PWA 767 parked at Gate B19, I believe they only had those for a couple of years.

Also very cool seeing a CP Air 747 parked at today's gate C25, it was always fun seeing those large planes so close up from the main terminal's viewing areas.

Gordon · #**5833** Posted **May 2, 2014, 4:16 PM**

Any idea when Gates A2 & A3 will be converted back the regular single bridges?

Johnny Aussie · #**5834** Posted **May 3, 2014, 7:09 AM**

AC just updated summer scheds.

Of note:

A330 replacing an A320 on the first of the 6 daily flights to YUL. Been awhile since AC had a widebody on the YUL route for the summer scheds. AC put an A330 on one of the daily flights this last winter.

YYZ back up to 18 daily. Original summer sched release had it at 17. However, the morning A330 has been shifted to YUL (see above) replaced by an A321 and an A320 30 mins apart. Of the 18, 3 still on 777s.

Johnny Aussie · #**5835** Posted **May 5, 2014, 10:49 AM**

Shanghai!

Finally after months of speculation....

Effective 26 Oct 2014 YVR-PVG daily 788 replacing the daily 763 on AC25 / AC26.

A nice ~ 20-30% capacity increase.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/05/05/ac-asia-w14update/

AC25 departs YVR at 12:35 and AC26 arrives YVR at 12:35.... sooooo.... more to come :-) as there is no way they would have the 787 sitting on the ground for 24 hours! It would be very tight but they could squeeze in a YVR-NRT return as well.
I see at least a transcon (maybe YUL but most likely YYZ) built into this.
Or maybe a HNL turnaround (wishful thinking!!).

This will be YVR's third 787 route..... so far.

trofirhen · #**5836** Posted **May 5, 2014, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Shanghai!

Finally after months of speculation....

Effective 26 Oct 2014 YVR-PVG daily 788 replacing the daily 763 on AC25 / AC26.

A nice ~ 20-30% capacity increase.

http://airlineroute.net/2014/05/05/ac-asia-w14update/

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............... This will be YVR's third 787 route..... so far.

This is really a sign that YVR is such a major Asian flight hub.
I couldn't also help noticing that the (but of course) 787 YYZ - Haneda route will be downgraded to a 777. For the time being, anyway.

ACT7 · #**5837** Posted **May 5, 2014, 5:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

This is really a sign that YVR is such a major Asian flight hub.
I couldn't also help noticing that the (but of course) 787 YYZ - Haneda route will be downgraded to a 777. For the time being, anyway.

I don't think that's really considered a downgrade, but I see what you're trying to get at.

sacrifice333 · #**5838** Posted **May 5, 2014, 6:17 PM**

Just flew JL17 & JL18, YVR-NRT and NRT-YVR respectively, both serviced by Boeing 787 Dreamliners. Excellent planes. Flew biz class one way and econo bulk head the other.

Biz class uses the JAL Shell Flat Neo which is fine, but seeing as it won an award in 2009 isn't exactly ground-breaking and isn't fully lie-flat. Also they're using a straight-forward 2-2-2 design so if the person next to you is extended you need some fancy footwork to get by them. The toilet in this section is typical Japanese including all of the "washing" you could desire. Love the electronically dimmed/shaded windows, also used in econo class.

Economy is quite comfortable and seems to have reasonable legroom. Bulkheads have HUGE leg room. The toilets don't have the washing options, but the touchless flush is a nice 'touch'. Pardon the pun.

Flying an MH 777-300ER afterwards was night and day. And not in a good way.

Gordon · #**5839** Posted **May 6, 2014, 2:25 AM**

the gate re- numbering has some conflicts, gate #s 26,27,28 are already used in the C pier.

Johnny Aussie · #**5840** Posted **May 7, 2014, 12:40 AM**

Looking at Q1 stats in more detail and if current trends continue I would expect YVR to close out 2014 as the #2 airport in Canada for international passengers. This would include transborder. I know some would argue these are two separate markets but when looking at total international traffic, YVR should overtake YUL this year.

I realise YUL has some new international flights coming online as well, but so does YVR.

In 2013 YUL handled just over 157,000 more international pax than YVR. In Q1 2014 YUL saw transborder growth of only 1.1% and international only 0.3%.

YUL also sees a much more vast array of flights to sun destinations. YVR pales in comparison.