Calgary Roads - Page 223

Mazrim · #**4441** Posted **Mar 21, 2014, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

You can actually just copy the URL showing at the top of the browser, it seems to change as you navigate through the map.

Oh hey, that's totally it. I suppose that's a more natural place to copy from, but it's certainly not where I would have looked after all these years of clicking the "link" button.

mersar · #**4442** Posted **Mar 21, 2014, 10:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by Mazrim

Oh hey, that's totally it. I suppose that's a more natural place to copy from, but it's certainly not where I would have looked after all these years of clicking the "link" button.

Yep. They changed it to that in the recent mega-update to Google Maps.

5seconds · #**4443** Posted **Mar 21, 2014, 10:28 PM**

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Originally Posted by mersar

Yep. They changed it to that in the recent mega-update to Google Maps.

Is there a way to do measurements in the new maps? I use to use the old measure tool all the time, and I can still go back to the old maps when I need to, but is it available in the new version?

J-D · #**4444** Posted **Mar 23, 2014, 6:38 PM**

I've always wondered... when a road gets built/extended onto private property (i.e. Deerfoot Meadows), does the developer foot the bill for this or the City?

Who controls the traffic light timing in these cases? It really seems to me that some of the traffic lights in Deerfoot Meadows (e.g. 11 St SB to Southland/Deerfoot) are timed to make you stop at every set of lights regardless of direction and make you more likely to pull into more stores.

5seconds · #**4445** Posted **Apr 17, 2014, 3:13 AM**

With all the talk about the Glenmore-Crowchild interchange, I thought I would post the current working plans for when the City widens Glenmore. I believe this is going to take place in the next 2 years.

Westbound will go to 3 lanes, while Eastbound will be three lanes, reducing to two as one becomes the off-ramp at Crowchild. The road is being moved slightly north within the corridor.

Not a lot of room under the temporary 37th street interchange, so I assume the third westbound lane would become the 37th street exit lane until the Province builds the permanent 37th interchange and Glenmore upgrades west of 37th? Not sure.

You Need A Thneed · #**4446** Posted **Apr 17, 2014, 4:02 AM**

Between that, the SWRR, and the Bowfort Road 16th interchange, in another year or two, I'm worried that I may not have a route to work that's not under construction.

DizzyEdge · #**4447** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 6:31 PM**

In some cities new freeways are tolled. Can anyone tell me why that is? What I mean by that is what would be specific about those freeways that they would be tolled but others aren't. Is it a case of a P3 construction? Should some Calgary freeways be tolled such as the ring road?

Boris2k7 · #**4448** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

In some cities new freeways are tolled. Can anyone tell me why that is? What I mean by that is what would be specific about those freeways that they would be tolled but others aren't. Is it a case of a P3 construction? Should some Calgary freeways be tolled such as the ring road?

Well, for example, Beltway 8 (the second ring road around Houston) in Harris County,TX was constructed over a span of thirty years (it was planned over sixty years ago) with the help of its tolls. They literally could not come up with the cash without them. Highway 99 (Houston's third ring road) started construction twenty years ago and will likely be using tollways as well in order to speed up each segment's construction.

MichaelS · #**4449** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 6:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

In some cities new freeways are tolled. Can anyone tell me why that is? What I mean by that is what would be specific about those freeways that they would be tolled but others aren't. Is it a case of a P3 construction? Should some Calgary freeways be tolled such as the ring road?

In Brisbane Australia, a lot of their major road projects are sold as investments. You could purchase a share in the project, and get a share of the revenue/profits generated from the tolls. Basically a P3 model to finance some multi-billion dollar road tunnels.

DizzyEdge · #**4450** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 8:18 PM**

This is parking related, but I wonder if parking restrictions were removed for 9th ave between 11th and 8th street, and 4th ave between Riverfront and 1st st SE, and MacLeod between 10th ave and 9th ave how much that would wreck the aims of the existing parking restrictions. It would be parkades close to the edges of downtown only, and the rules could be that the parkades have to have retail/office. It would take away the suburban sore point of the parking restrictions, and would sort of allow parking in the same sorts of places the CPA would build it. Of course at somepoint the additional cars might create edge of downtown and beyond gridlock, but I think it's a more convincing argument to commuters to say "we're not going to demolish towers to widen roads so your commute is faster" than "we're going to artificially restrict parking so you can't drive downtown". Or maybe there's really no reason to change the existing rules, I just always worry about a suburban minded mayor (ala Rob Ford) getting into power on a wave of suburban discontent.

Full Mountain · #**4451** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 9:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

This is parking related, but I wonder if parking restrictions were removed for 9th ave between 11th and 8th street, and 4th ave between Riverfront and 1st st SE, and MacLeod between 10th ave and 9th ave how much that would wreck the aims of the existing parking restrictions. It would be parkades close to the edges of downtown only, and the rules could be that the parkades have to have retail/office. It would take away the suburban sore point of the parking restrictions, and would sort of allow parking in the same sorts of places the CPA would build it. Of course at somepoint the additional cars might create edge of downtown and beyond gridlock, but I think it's a more convincing argument to commuters to say "we're not going to demolish towers to widen roads so your commute is faster" than "we're going to artificially restrict parking so you can't drive downtown". Or maybe there's really no reason to change the existing rules, I just always worry about a suburban minded mayor (ala Rob Ford) getting into power on a wave of suburban discontent.

Then you have to add road capacity to the edge of downtown, not sure you're helping anything with that...

srperrycgy · #**4452** Posted **Apr 21, 2014, 9:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

In some cities new freeways are tolled. Can anyone tell me why that is? What I mean by that is what would be specific about those freeways that they would be tolled but others aren't. Is it a case of a P3 construction? Should some Calgary freeways be tolled such as the ring road?

The SW section of the Ring Road should have a toll. But, having tolls in Alberta is like having a sales tax; it's a political "third-rail".

I was in the Lower Mainland last week and I happily paid the toll for the new Port Mann Bridge.

lubicon · #**4453** Posted **Apr 22, 2014, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by You Need A Thneed

Between that, the SWRR, and the Bowfort Road 16th interchange, in another year or two, I'm worried that I may not have a route to work that's not under construction.

Haha, welcome to my world. It's been that way for me since I moved here in 1997. That's 17 years on constant road construction on my commuting routes. And I am not exaggerating.

milomilo · #**4454** Posted **Apr 22, 2014, 8:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by DizzyEdge

In some cities new freeways are tolled. Can anyone tell me why that is? What I mean by that is what would be specific about those freeways that they would be tolled but others aren't. Is it a case of a P3 construction? Should some Calgary freeways be tolled such as the ring road?

I visited Melbourne* a few weeks back, another Australian city with tolled freeways. These roads were truly big pieces of infrastructure though with multiple inner city tunnels and huge bridges so it didn't seem like too much of a hardship to pay a toll, although the prices did seem very steep.

I don't think you could justify tolling any of the roads in Calgary, but if it were to happen I'd prefer it was more similar to the French system where Alberta would build a high quality network of freeways and toll all of them.

*On a side note - Melbourne has utterly incredible infrastructure - extensive freeways, high frequency extensive commuter rail and a huge tram system. Really makes Calgary look small time

. I'd highly advise any transit geek to visit!

Jimby · #**4455** Posted **Apr 22, 2014, 9:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by srperrycgy

I was in the Lower Mainland last week and I happily paid the toll for the new Port Mann Bridge.

How did you pay the toll for the Port Mann? I have never paid and I don't even know how to pay it.

srperrycgy · #**4456** Posted **Apr 23, 2014, 12:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Jimby

How did you pay the toll for the Port Mann? I have never paid and I don't even know how to pay it.

You can go online http://www.treo.ca with your plate # and pay there. If you pay within 7 days, you save the licence plate processing fee. I registered with TReO and received the sticker and placed it on my windshield as directed. Its not in my field of vision as its behind the mirror. I have it linked to my MC and they will bill monthly. Only one of my trips has shown up on the website. I won't use it a lot, but its there. I'm reading on other forums that out-of-province tolls might never get paid as TReO has no agreements with other provinces to provide car information like ICBC does in BC. Might have never needed to pay the toll anyway.

Jimby · #**4457** Posted **Apr 23, 2014, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by srperrycgy

You can go online http://www.treo.ca with your plate # and pay there. If you pay within 7 days, you save the licence plate processing fee. I registered with TReO and received the sticker and placed it on my windshield as directed. Its not in my field of vision as its behind the mirror. I have it linked to my MC and they will bill monthly. Only one of my trips has shown up on the website. I won't use it a lot, but its there. I'm reading on other forums that out-of-province tolls might never get paid as TReO has no agreements with other provinces to provide car information like ICBC does in BC. Might have never needed to pay the toll anyway.

Thanks for the info. I have never received a bill in the mail so I not going to offer to pay. I last drove over the bridge on Wednesday so I will see if I get any mail from B.C. I always thought the TCH was supposed to be toll free across Canada.

freeweed · #**4458** Posted **Apr 23, 2014, 4:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by lubicon

Haha, welcome to my world. It's been that way for me since I moved here in 1997. That's 17 years on constant road construction on my commuting routes. And I am not exaggerating.

I was just commenting on this earlier today. I think we might actually see Crowchild become construction-free by this fall. I'm sure there's some other piece of remediation work that will have to happen, because near as I can tell it's a city bylaw that Crowchild NW is not allowed to be 80 for its entire freeflow length.

Chadillaccc · #**4459** Posted **Apr 23, 2014, 4:40 PM**

So they've been working on Crowchild for 17 years straight and they still don't have it right yet? Holy hell. Worst expressway in the country probably.

Jimby · #**4460** Posted **Apr 23, 2014, 4:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

So they've been working on Crowchild for 17 years straight and they still don't have it right yet? Holy hell. Worst expressway in the country probably.

It may well be the worst but it is a million times better than when it used to be traffic lights all the way.