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Old Posted Jan 6, 2014, 11:02 PM
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1977-79 subway plan for Ottawa-Hull.





That transit plan did look cool.
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Phase 1 of that plan DOES look good, and would have been better than the transitway, though Phase 2 takes an odd course. Would have been better routed straight down Bank.

That said, Ottawa had fallen on hard times in the late 70s, with the population of inner-greenbelt areas actually dropping for the first time. That, plus (no doubt) wrangling between Ottawa city council, the NCC, and fed/prov governments.

This was the also the same era that Alberta's 2 biggest cities decided to go the LRT route, so maybe Trudeau didn't want to be like those short-sighted, backwards-thinking western bastards. (note: being mostly sarcastic here)
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Phase 1 of that plan DOES look good, and would have been better than the transitway, though Phase 2 takes an odd course. Would have been better routed straight down Bank.

That said, Ottawa had fallen on hard times in the late 70s, with the population of inner-greenbelt areas actually dropping for the first time. That, plus (no doubt) wrangling between Ottawa city council, the NCC, and fed/prov governments.

This was the also the same era that Alberta's 2 biggest cities decided to go the LRT route, so maybe Trudeau didn't want to be like those short-sighted, backwards-thinking western bastards. (note: being mostly sarcastic here)
This plan I think would have the changed the course of planning of the city and would have created the urban rail network that so many here wanted. It was extendable in every direction to reflect the growth of the city and would have allowed Montreal Road, Merivale Road and Carling Avenue (through a branch at the Carling interchange) to be redeveloped. It also would have facilitated extension of LRT on rail corridors in Gatineau and offered a balanced rail network with a north-south route also crossing through downtown as it should. A Bank Street subway would be a nice add on but would not fit into this plan and would have to be separate.

What Edmonton and Calgary were able to do was a reflection of the 1970s oil embargo. There was a tremendous windfall of money that went to Alberta as a result that allowed these relatively small cities to experiment by bringing the first LRT systems to North America. They were the leaders that many other cities have since followed but they could only do this because of the cash windfall. Ottawa was significantly bigger than either of them but we simply did not have access to the same cash windfall to allow us to do the same.
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I had the same thought about phase 2, serving a smaller population than a potential Bank subway (as well as once again skipping over Lansdowne). Although, I was thinking that if phase 1 and 2 were built by the estimated 1979, there would have been a very good chance that Bank would follow as phase 3, kind of in the same way that Toronto and Montreal got into the groove of building multiple extensions and lines without any issue once the initial system was completed.
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The further nice thing about this plan is that the O-Train would have beautifully complemented it and could have been extended to Aylmer.
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The further nice thing about this plan is that the O-Train would have beautifully complemented it and could have been extended to Aylmer.
I agree; phase 2 could have been extended to the airport, making the lack of direct to downtown O-Train service less of an issue.
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Old Posted Jan 17, 2014, 11:52 PM
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Found this on Flickr.

Orleans from 1970 to 1982:http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_webhamster/sets/72157624706913272/
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2014, 5:55 PM
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Former plans for Place du Portage complex.

http://urbsite.blogspot.ca/2014/01/etienne-gaboury-does-hull.html
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A comparison by a user on Reddit called Sebach of a photo of LeBreton Flats from 1962 and what it looks like today. There's also newspaper article from 1962 about the expropriation - also found on Reddit.

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If you look very closely at the photo on the right, you can see a slight influence from the NCC...
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If you look very closely at the photo on the right, you can see a slight influence from the NCC...
Don't even get me started on that obtuse bunch!
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So PdV C and Place Bell were built/completed at almost the same time!? I always thought Bell was completed a full year earlier.
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So PdV C and Place Bell were built/completed at almost the same time!? I always thought Bell was completed a full year earlier.
A large construction boom for sure, with both skyscrapers(at least by Ottawa standards) being built at once.
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So PdV C and Place Bell were built/completed at almost the same time!? I always thought Bell was completed a full year earlier.
Wow, this was a while ago. I don't think I ever recall Place Bell being visible from Lebreton Flats....
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Wow, this was a while ago. I don't think I ever recall Place Bell being visible from Lebreton Flats....
Yup, that one's from 1971.
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An image of Wellington Street from sometime in the mid- to late-1800s.

Nice, should be before 1884-1889 based on the absence of the Langevin Block, the first federal Office Building outside Parliament Hill.
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Nice, should be before 1884-1889 based on the absence of the Langevin Block, the first federal Office Building outside Parliament Hill.
The absence of all but the most rudimentary electricity poles puts this more in the late 1870s, maybe 1880.
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Hopefully this hasn't been posted before. It's a video of Ottawa circa 1968-1969. Some pretty interesting things are seen in the video. Love the Queensway back then too!

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