SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[Jerry of San Fran]

ozone - glad to see the proposed development for 2201 Market St. I can't help but ask the question, why is there a building being proposed that will look almost exactly like the one just built at 1998 Market St., the condo across the street from the U. S. Mint?

[cwilly]

The rebar for the first floor columns has started to poke above ground at 1450 Franklin on the corner of Franklin and Bush. Its the 13 story condo building that is replacing the old Vespa dealership.

[simms3_redux]

Is there a rendering?

[cwilly]

Originally Posted by simms3_redux

Is there a rendering?

http://www.socketsite.com/archives/2013/...ranklin_13_stories_and_69_condos_on.html

[ozone]

Originally Posted by Jerry of San Fran

ozone - glad to see the proposed development for 2201 Market St. I can't help but ask the question, why is there a building being proposed that will look almost exactly like the one just built at 1998 Market St., the condo across the street from the U. S. Mint?

They are quite similar. But that's not unusual. Look around you. Most buildings are just variations on a theme. I think in many ways this is more attractive than having every building shouting "look at me, I'm different!"

Here is another rendering of the proposal 2201 Market Street


And here is 1998 Market Street

[a very long weekend]

that rendering for 'linea' really under-emphasizes the thickness of the mullions qua design element. this new proposal maintains more of a curtain wall look by comparison, though i have to admit that i chuckled a little at the similarities, hadn't noticed that. still, a huge improvement for the corner, even if i'd love to see it at like 10 stories.

[fflint]

Yeah, the renderings for Linea were really off. The proportions and materials make it clunkier and heavier than its renderings promised. It's not a horrible building, but it really does look more like a suburban office building than an urban condo complex.

[minesweeper]

Originally Posted by ozone

Basically TJPA attempted to acquire the 201 Mission Street driveway in order to develop the site according to the standard configuration but the property owner thinks that tenant views in 201 Mission Street would be blocked by the tower and so demanded a price far in excess of the market value for the driveway.

To be honest I'm a little confused as to why the city could not use it's authority to make the owners accept a fair market price. But maybe this configuration will result in a cool (better) design. Also why is an office building more desirable than a residential, hotel or a combination? Anyone have any answers?

I'm surprised they didn't try to use eminent domain to acquire the right of way for Natoma, breaking up the 201 Mission parcel and diminishing the value of that wedge on Block 5. I'm hoping the developers that are selected can work out a way to include it in their plans, but if not we could end up with a more interesting tower due to the oddly-shaped lot.

Here's a link to the RFP (PDF): http://sfredevelopment.org/modules/showdocument.aspx?documentid=6428

The OCII must believe they can get higher bids for the site as office versus residential. Though I'm not sure why they wouldn't allow an office building with residential on top. Even with the odd layout, the RFP says the building could have 700,000 sq ft of office space. That's quite an opportunity for any office developers who want to get in on the current boom and would be the biggest new office building by square footage outside of the Transbay Tower. The 1.4 million sq ft Transbay Tower sold for $192 million, so this block could go for close to half that. By contrast, Block 8 (also zoned for 550') went for $72 million as residential.

Another tidbit from the Block 5 RFP is that the next scheduled RFP is in 2015 for Parcel F (near 550 Howard) which is zoned for 750'.

[minesweeper]

Originally Posted by hruski

How many floors is that garage supposed to be?

According to Swinerton, there will be six levels (!) of underground parking:

http://www.swinerton.com/blog/swinerton-...ncisco-s-trinity-place-kicks-off-phase-3

[a very long weekend]

Originally Posted by 1977

And here's another blurb on it with a new, but tiny rendering:
http://blog.langan.com/2014/02/05/we-asked-our-geotechnical-expert-richard-rodgers/

i can't believe the city let this one go through as is, he's lucky that it got through before mid-market started turning around.

[mt_climber13]

It's "middle class" housing for "middle class" people. So many complain about the housing costs, and want every piece of architecture to look like a Rembrandt, but be affordable for a shoe shiner.

[viewguysf]

Originally Posted by wakamesalad

It's "middle class" housing for "middle class" people. So many complain about the housing costs, and want every piece of architecture to look like a Rembrandt, but be affordable for a shoe shiner.

These units will definitely not be affordable for a shoe shiner or anyone under the middle middle class. It's a sham that the City allowed the original plans to be changed, especially considering Angelo Sangiacomo gets to build a massive 1,400 car garage, and the fact that the new configuration and design pales in comparison and excitement to the old one.
http://www.e-architect.co.uk/sanfrancisco/trinity-place

[viewguysf]

Originally Posted by fflint

Yeah, the renderings for Linea were really off. The proportions and materials make it clunkier and heavier than its renderings promised. It's not a horrible building, but it really does look more like a suburban office building than an urban condo complex.

Exactly! All in all, it's another disappointment on the San Francisco architectural scene though since it fails to really excite as the rendering did.

[simms3_redux]

A new "era" of construction is upon us.

ORH North, Foundry III, NEMA, Upper Market infill, 680 Folsom, and 535 Mission were all a taster.

Finally, we have a ton of skyscrapers under construction in the downtown area...like rising UC. 45 Lansing, 222 Second, 350 Mission, 2 towers at Lumina, 399 Fremont, and 299 Fremont. I think we'll see action at 181 Fremont and TB Tower by the end of summer (I think we could be mostly dug out with both by then). I think 222 Second will go up as quickly as 535 Mission, chiefly in 5-6 months time they will go from hole to topped off with some cladding.

By the end of summer, we could see towers 25-50+% up at 45 Lansing, 222 Second, Lumina, 350 Mission, 399 Fremont, and 299 Fremont. I think we'll have a crane up and foundation done for 340 Fremont. We could also conceivably see vertical groundbreaking for 181 Fremont, and TB Tower, and traditional groundbreaking for 500 Folsom and TB Block 9. 41 Tehama also seems imminent.

[mt_climber13]

Most consider tech good for San Francisco:
http://blog.sfgate.com/techchron/2014/04...ustry-good-for-san-francisco-study-says/

"73 percent of respondents think tech companies are good for the city, but only 60 percent think tech workers are good for the city."

[c33f]

Trinity Place Phase 3 Site Preparation


100 Van Ness Avenue Residential Conversion


NEMA North Tower


1400 Mission Street


NEMA North & South Tower


1415 Mission Street


The Panoramic


AVA


Trinity Place Phase 3 Site Preparation between Phases 1 & 2


The Hampton Inn


SFMOMA Expansion


222 Second Street & New Liebherr Luffing-jib Crane


One Rincon Hill, North Tower Liebherr Luffing-jib Crane Removal + Tower Cranes for 45 Lansing Street and 399 Fremont Street


340 Fremont Street Site Demolition + 399 Fremont Street Tower Crane


45 Lansing Street


535 Mission Street


Transbay Block 6 + Lumina Site Tower Cranes


325 Fremont Street Site + Lumina I & II Tower Cranes


399 Fremont Street


340 Fremont Street Site Demolition + 45 Lansing Street


Transbay Block 6


Lumina Site Construction


Tower Crane Party


181 Fremont Street


Transbay Transit Center Pit + 535 Mission Street


350 Mission Street


Transbay Tower Site Preparation


It was fun...

[fflint]

Cool pics, thanks for sharing them. There is so much going on we cannot even keep up!

[Jerry of San Fran]

c33f - thanks for all of the updates! I did not know the name of the 1321 Mission Street highrise - The Panoramic. The web page is quite interesting: http://www.panoramic.com/smartspace/mission-san-francisco/

[nergie]

SF crane heaven

[spyguy]

Came across this rendering of the 5M (Fifth and Mission) project. The caption states the architect is KPF and shows Yahoo as a tenant, both consistent with news articles. Not sure how current the design is though.