Saskatoon Construction II

[SaskScraper]

Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy

This is the way I would fix Clancy / Laurier:



Laurier (Sorry NB access from this intersection needs to disappear, no adequate land to develop further then a right hand turn off of Circle SB)



22nd:



Clancy (If headed SB Circle take 22nd Fairmont Exit to get to Clancy WB)



New Road to connect to 11th:

^^wow.. that is one heck of an on-ramp connector to Circle drive north bound from Clancy!

I wonder if they had just built Circle drive south bound to go over top of Laurier and Clancy instead..have the traffic lights below the overpasses connecting to Circle drive north bound at a t-intersection with each of Laurier and Clancy, at grad level, with no interruption of traffic Circle drive going north.

[EpicPonyTime]

Originally Posted by djforsberg

Huh? If the downtown had 35,000 more people, most of them would be commuting north on Idylwyld or Warman Rd, or staying downtown. They would also be in a better position to take transit to all areas of the city. The city and its bridges are worse off putting that 35,000 people on the east side of the river in suburbs.

Yeah, I said Idylwyld did I not? They'd either be going north/south on Idylwld every morning or going across the river to work at the university. Forgot about Warman Road's existence for a moment there.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by Jezza

I'd like to see the mayor committing to moving downtown himself. Enough cheerleading, let's try some plain old leading. He works downtown, they are empty-nesters, he attends a lot of events, it makes sense to be centrally located, not in the Willows. Drop a line to Victory Majors, I hear they're selling. The Willows contracts out their own recycling and snow clearing, and transit doesn't even have a route out there. You pay taxes to the city but you might as well just be living in Warman.

I'm just shaking my head over the 35,000 people remark. Maybe feasible if you consider Caswell, Riversdale, City Park, and North Park to be downtown?

If we just consider the downtown to be the CBD, 35,000 people downtown would mean a great density than Manhattan, Vancouver's downtown peninsula, or the densest districts in Shanghai.

If we extend the downtown to include all of the areas you've listed... 6400/km^2.

If we exclude North Park... 7500 km^2.

But yeah, crazy figure. Can we try getting 10,000 people downtown first? Wasn't that the goal over a decade ago? The CBD only has a bit over 2000 at the moment...

[gowest]

Lots of talk about improvements at Blackstrap and the Dundurn Mega Mall last year. Is it like River Landing, lots of talk but no action.

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by SaskScraper

^^wow.. that is one heck of an on-ramp connector to Circle drive north bound from Clancy!

I wonder if they had just built Circle drive south bound to go over top of Laurier and Clancy instead..have the traffic lights below the overpasses connecting to Circle drive north bound at a t-intersection with each of Laurier and Clancy, at grad level, with no interruption of traffic Circle drive going north.

That would also be an option to look at. The reason I didn't show that however was the need for a clearance of around 4.8/5.0M the run-ups would be substantial. However if Circle Drive were to be depressed a little it might make it easier.

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by gowest

Lots of talk about improvements at Blackstrap and the Dundurn Mega Mall last year. Is it like River Landing, lots of talk but no action.

Hey, c'mon now. As I recall, there are at least 2 signs along the highway promoting the Mega Mall

Which is more than we're currently seeing at River Landing...

[Jezza]

Originally Posted by Cicero

If we just consider the downtown to be the CBD, 35,000 people downtown would mean a great density than Manhattan, Vancouver's downtown peninsula, or the densest districts in Shanghai.

If we extend the downtown to include all of the areas you've listed... 6400/km^2.

If we exclude North Park... 7500 km^2.

I think you might want to check your math a bit there, considering Saskatoon proper is only 144 square km. OTOH maybe we've finally found the real-life version of Narnia

[Crisis]

Originally Posted by SaskScraper

^^wow.. that is one heck of an on-ramp connector to Circle drive north bound from Clancy!

Agreed. That's not going to be in the cards. As much as I like the ability to get onto Circle Drive NB from Clancy, I don't think that taxpayers are going to spring for the cost of an on ramp that has to fly over roadways 8 times on the journey to join Cirlce Drive.

If we exclude North Park... 7500 km^2.

I think you might want to check your math a bit there, considering Saskatoon proper is only 144 square km. OTOH maybe we've finally found the real-life version of Narnia

I think he just missed the "/". supposed to be 7500/km^2

[North_Regina_Boy]

Originally Posted by Crisis

Agreed. That's not going to be in the cards. As much as I like the ability to get onto Circle Drive NB from Clancy, I don't think that taxpayers are going to spring for the cost of an on ramp that has to fly over roadways 8 times on the journey to join Cirlce Drive.



I think he just missed the "/". supposed to be 7500/km^2

Yes not question it is a huge expense. So I guess the only real alternative is for the city to kill left turns from both intersections. And the right turn from Laurier to SB Circle (As it would conflict with the 22nd Street Ramp to much.

[WoodlandCritter]

^^^ I think restrictions, as have been mentioned before, are the best alternative to allow for easier flow on that part of Circle Drive. Laurier and Clancy don't need to have access both ways. The lights need to go.

Ambitious design though. The flyover 8 lanes would look something like an LA highway or some I have seen in Phoenix.

[urbandesigner]

Does anybody know what is happening in the old building that Lydia's was in on Broadway?

[Echoes]

Originally Posted by jrochest

Hi all -- I was listening to CBC this morning, and they mentioned that they were going to talk with the Riversdale BIA about the new tenant for the Great Western Warehouse building on 20th.

But then I missed the interview, and I can't find the info via Google. Anyone know what's going in there?

More info for ya:

Major renovations to Great West Warehouse
New owners opting for underground parking and office space on 20th Street

Reported by Ashley Wills
First Posted: Apr 4, 2014 1:37pm

New owners are bringing the Great West Warehouse building on 20th Street back to life.

The iconic space has been closed for more than a year after former owner Rob Hills decided it was time to retire from the furniture business.

Now construction is underway to build offices on the second floor and parking in the basement.

"It's a significant investment and that's exactly what we're looking for now that a lot of the developers and property owners are starting to see some positive movement," said Randy Pshebylo, executive director of the Riversdale Business Improvement District (BID).

Based on the progress so far, Pshebylo said they expect the doors to open at the end of August or early September.

The main floor will be used for retail space, but a tenant has not been chosen yet.

"I just find it very interesting how people are looking at the buildings now from a new lens and bringing in that investment that's kind of changing things a little faster than we first thought," Pshebylo said.

[....]

http://newstalk650.com/story/major-renovations-great-west-warehouse/303494

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by Crisis

I think he just missed the "/". supposed to be 7500/km^2

Yeah, oops.

I also didn't include the actual density for the CBD if it had 35,000 people.

289.2 acres * 0.00404686 km^2/acre = 1.17 km^2.

35,000 people/1.17 km^2 = 29914.14 people/km^2. Get on it, Atch.

[jigglysquishy]

30,000 /km^2 exceeds Manhattan as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I'd be tickled pink, but until we start plopping in 200m tall buildings its not possible.

[Cicero]

Originally Posted by jigglysquishy

30,000 /km^2 exceeds Manhattan as a whole. Don't get me wrong, I'd be tickled pink, but until we start plopping in 200m tall buildings its not possible.

That's what I said in my initial post. I was hoping to put into perspective how ridiculous that goal is in the short term.

[Temperance]

Originally Posted by Cicero

That's what I said in my initial post. I was hoping to put into perspective how ridiculous that goal is in the short term.

It would be better to have realistic goals and a realistic plan to achieve those goals. As much as Atchison's objectives have been laudable, we haven't seen much (or any) progress in truth.

[Temperance]

Some good news on the retail front - Mountain Equipment Coop is looking for commercial space in Saskatoon! Janet French from the Star Phoenix has tweeted that she received a written statement from MEC to this effect.

[prairieguy]

Originally Posted by Temperance

Some good news on the retail front - Mountain Equipment Coop is looking for commercial space in Saskatoon! Janet French from the Star Phoenix has tweeted that she received a written statement from MEC to this effect.

That would be great news...always one of my go to stops when in Calgary! Would be fantastic to have a MEC in Saskatoon!

Any hints as to where they are looking? Hope it is downtown...dependent on how big they plan the saskatoon store to be. Isn't there retail included in the current Galaxy theatre expansion? That would be a good location if enough sq footage.

[Echoes]

^ This is very good news. Am I correct in thinking that it is MEC's practice to locate in urban locations, and often edgier, gentrifying neighbourhoods, rather than suburban locales? If that's the case, my bet is on them locating in Riversdale. I always thought that the Adilman Building would've been great for MEC, but it's full of tenants now.

I wonder if there's retail space in the Banks that has the kind of square footage that MEC is looking for?

[phone]

perhaps in the old great west furniture space? enough room in there?