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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 3:37 AM
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^Obscene, really. Hamilton apartment pricing has been out of whack for years.

Over the course of my adult life, I've been in and out of the Far East and South East Asia. While I know it's apples and oranges, I paid the equivalent of between $500 and $750/ mo. in places like Bangkok and Saigon over the past decade or so, and for that you get near-luxury accommodation (in a tropical climate, no less). You get far less bang for your buck in Japan but still, it's far better than the Hamilton equivalent.

So which would you prefer: a sh*tty flat on Emerald St or palm trees and luxury in SE Asia? Crazy.
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^Obscene, really. Hamilton apartment pricing has been out of whack for years.

Over the course of my adult life, I've been in and out of the Far East and South East Asia. While I know it's apples and oranges, I paid the equivalent of between $500 and $750/ mo. in places like Bangkok and Saigon over the past decade or so, and for that you get near-luxury accommodation (in a tropical climate, no less). You get far less bang for your buck in Japan but still, it's far better than the Hamilton equivalent.

So which would you prefer: a sh*tty flat on Emerald St or palm trees and luxury in SE Asia? Crazy.
Luxury in the tropics should be way cheaper than temperate climates. Far less insulation needed, and only AC is needed with no heaters.

Also Hamilton is pretty cheap compared to the rest of Canada from the best I can tell with the online apartment searching I've done.
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Old Posted Dec 26, 2013, 10:43 AM
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I understand it's a ridiculous comparison and that few - if any - are actually contemplating whether to live on Emerald St or in Bangkok. It's just a bit of fun. I'm not sure, however, that insulation is the reason life is relatively cheap in the Third World. There are lots of factors. But if I'm ever forced to choose an apartment on Emerald, just shoot me.
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I don't know if you're talking about luxury 2 bedroom apartments or what, but I usually see $800-$1000/month for standard 2 bedroom apartments in Hamilton (clean, upgraded units in buildings no older than 30 years). If you're willing to go for older units in crappier areas they can go as cheap as $650-$700/month. Two friends of mine were renting one on Emerald just a few doors North of Barton for $750/month.
Are they even many apartment buildings in Hamilton less than 30 years old? That would put the buildings newer than 1983.
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Two hours of scenes behind the scenes, circa 2005.

Talking On James Street North: Episode 1 / Episode 2 / Episode 3 / Episode 4
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Narrated Video showing old photos of James North from the HPL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=elGkTCV3L4A
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That public library video was interesting. Some of those photos were familiar, but I found the narrative to be quite educational.
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Neglected Victorians on James North get new lease on life
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By: Meredith MacLeod

Three decrepit four-storey Victorians on James Street North are getting a makeover.

A group of eight partners bought five addresses on the westerly stretch just north of the intersection with York Boulevard in November. They cleared out the interiors and have erected scaffolding to get to work on the facades.

The ground-floor spaces of 95, 105 and 105½ James St. N. have hosted a number of businesses including, recently, an electronics repair shop, soccer retailer, cash-for-gold exchange and hair salon. A current clothing shop intends to return to the location once the renovation is complete.

"We think that corner is really important," said Mark Milne, one of the project partners. "It's one of the few stretches left needing attention."

He says it was evident the upper residential floors of the three painted brick buildings have been vacant for at least 50 years.

"You could have filmed a horror show in there without altering a thing. There was peeling wallpaper everywhere, thick dust. The windows were boarded up so it was dark. The toilets and cabinets were probably 80 years old or older …. It was like a post-apocalyptic scene in there."

The new owners will replace the windows, restore the brick and add a new roof with three large dormers. The buildings qualify for facade grants from the city.

"We want to restore the fronts to their former glory," Milne says.

A large leaded-glass window found in one unit will be restored, divided and used in the storefronts of all three buildings. The hope is to have the three new retail spaces finished about a year from now. Then work will begin on the upper floors.

Preliminary plans call for two apartments in each building, though configurations aren't finalized.

"We need more residential downtown. People are crying out for affordable, practical places to live downtown."

Milne says he and Tim Potocic, who co-own record company Sonic Unyon and a number of James Street North properties, have been interested in the three Victorians for decades. In fact, photos from 1994 show a band featuring Milne, Potocic and Sandy McIntosh playing on the roof of Dr. Disc on Wilson Street with the buildings in the background.

"The buildings were in bad shape then … We would always wonder what is going on there because they looked like they were going to fall down."

McIntosh, now an architect, is working on the restoration of the buildings.

Milne and his partners also own the Mex-I-Can building and a small grocer, both next door. Milne says those businesses are staying and eventually the partnership will renovate the upper floors of the grocery.

A little farther north on James, a 35,000-square-foot, three-storey office and retail project being constructed on a former vacant lot at the corner of Vine Street is on schedule for occupancy in September. About 75 per cent of the 22,000 square feet of available office space has been leased, said Nicole Beume, treasurer of property owner J. Beume Real Estate.

The exterior of the former Leon's Furs building next door is also under renovation.
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Wow! I'm stunned. More amazing news for the city centre.

That is such a weird intersection, though. Because the city forced York and Wilson together, it created a space where the buildings don't really meet up with the street in a nice way. This renovation will help, though, along with the future demolition of that strip mall on the opposite corner - fingers crossed.
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I heard about the scaffolding. Amazing News!
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now doesn't everyone just wish they bought on James N in the 90s...
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2014, 5:51 AM
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All those speculators are finally going to cash out. Good for them.
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Awesome! That building will look terrific with all the paint and other 🞵🞵🞵🞵 cleared off of it.

It would be nice to finally see action on the Tivoli lot too. And I agree that plaza needs to be gone. With the rest of the street continuing its upward trajectory, perhaps value will convince whoever owns it to cash in by either selling or building something better on the property.
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^I believe that's a certain M Beume.
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^I believe that's a certain M Beume.
Affirmative. But I don't see it going anywhere soon.
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It's too bad they couldn't get the very end units at the corner and get rid of the broken checkered sign along York. That would make the reno's more noticeable.
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Old Posted Mar 28, 2014, 10:43 AM
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^They don't have the whole building? Are you sure? That would be disappointing.
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Cash 4 You is 91 James North, but the partners were only able to snap up 95-109.
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I sure hope they keep those falcons at the top of the dormers.

I can see why the corner owner would not buy in. He can potentially build something facing York as well if he owns the space. That weird wedge parkette next to the parking garage needs to be developed.
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That is unfortunate. So that hair salon isn't part of this either then - it's 93 James N.

It would be so much nicer for the exterior to be consistent. The facade covering the brick on the second floor of 91 is particularly horrible.

Perhaps the improvement will convince the owners of 91 & 93 to follow suit, particularly if there's opportunity to make money on rent (though from the street view it looks like those upper units have tenants?)
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